Nexus X and Nexus P ( 2015 ) Smartphones

[MRU]

Now that the 6P has been available for a little bit, have any new 6P owners switched from a Note 5 or 6S+?

I'm interested to hear comparisons and opinions regarding the 6P vs. Those devices.

Really the answer to that is subjective and really can be condensed into this.

Note 5 / Edge + if you want 1) better camera interface & software 2) the extra functionality and Samsung's aesthetics in Touchwiz 3) can accept TW's faults such as heavier ram utilisation 4) much brighter screen in daylight. 5) slower android updates

Nexus 6P if you want 1) a purer lean version of android 2) faster updates and likely longer term support 3) really do not like Touchwiz 4) that your willing to accept camera software is meh! 4) poorer outdoor visibility


So essentially if you want best camera and extra OS software functionality despite its excessive bloatedness and likewise wireless charging and bright screen for outdoor daylight viewing - the Samsung devices win.

But if you put smoothness and optimisation above functionality and likewise want assured quick software updates that your willing to accept poorer camera software and lack of some basic customisation features in stock android - the Nexus 6P device wins.

All the devices are fantastic and have their strengths but in different areas. It's what YOU subjectively hold as more important that will decide which is better for you.

I sold my Note 5 but have kept my Edge + when buying the Nexus 6P

I prefer stock android to Touchwiz overall despite stock android having me gnarl my teeth over lack of most simple customisation, that being said I prefer memory utilisation and overall smoothness of it generally that I am willing to sacrifice some of that.

In an ideal world i would like Stock Android on my Edge + albeit with the camera software by Samsung rather than Googles,

 

[Dmaynard83]

Really the answer to that is subjective and really can be condensed into this.

Note 5 / Edge + if you want 1) better camera interface & software 2) the extra functionality and Samsung's aesthetics in Touchwiz 3) can accept TW's faults such as heavier ram utilisation 4) much brighter screen in daylight. 5) slower android updates

Nexus 6P if you want 1) a purer lean version of android 2) faster updates and likely longer term support 3) really do not like Touchwiz 4) that your willing to accept camera software is meh! 4) poorer outdoor visibility


So essentially if you want best camera and extra OS software functionality despite its excessive bloatedness and likewise wireless charging and bright screen for outdoor daylight viewing - the Samsung devices win.

But if you put smoothness and optimisation above functionality and likewise want assured quick software updates that your willing to accept poorer camera software and lack of some basic customisation features in stock android - the Nexus 6P device wins.

All the devices are fantastic and have their strengths but in different areas. It's what YOU subjectively hold as more important that will decide which is better for you.

I sold my Note 5 but have kept my Edge + when buying the Nexus 6P

I prefer stock android to Touchwiz overall despite stock android having me gnarl my teeth over lack of most simple customisation, that being said I prefer memory utilisation and overall smoothness of it generally that I am willing to sacrifice some of that.

In an ideal world i would like Stock Android on my Edge + albeit with the camera software by Samsung rather than Googles,

Thanks for your thoughts. Any input as far as the 6s?

I have overall been unimpressed with 6s Siri. Hoping Google now will impress me with the 6p.

 

[MRU]

I have overall been unimpressed with 6s Siri. Hoping Google now will impress me with the 6p.

Tbh I find most of the voice helpers (Siri & Google Now) a little on the useless side as far as accuracy goes but Siri does tend to be less accurate result wise and sometimes dramatically so.

For example I asked Siri yesterday "convert 3 pm CET to GMT" and it gave me football result from Sweden. I then asked Google Now and whilst Google Now didn't read the answer back it did show a card amongst web results with the correct answer.

However for a lot of stuff I find functionality about same and Siri is often quicker when it comes to launching an app for example.

Also I find Siri whilst less accurate result wise, more accurate voice recognition wise.

Example - Asked both services at same time
"Play me songs by Amos Lee"

Siri will open music app and played the correct artist very quickly.

Google Now thought I said "Play Music by Mussolini" and opened Play Music app and then stumbled ...


So yeah they're both a bit hit & miss tbh.

 

[jamezr]

Tbh I find most of the voice helpers (Siri & Google Now) a little on the useless side as far as accuracy goes but Siri does tend to be less accurate result wise and sometimes dramatically so.

For example I asked Siri yesterday "convert 3 pm CET to GMT" and it gave me football result from Sweden. I then asked Google Now and whilst Google Now didn't read the answer back it did show a card amongst web results with the correct answer.

However for a lot of stuff I find functionality about same and Siri is often quicker when it comes to launching an app for example.

Also I find Siri whilst less accurate result wise, more accurate voice recognition wise.

Example - Asked both services at same time
"Play me songs by Amos Lee"

Siri will open music app and played the correct artist very quickly.

Google Now thought I said "Play Music by Mussolini" and opened Play Music app and then stumbled ...


So yeah they're both a bit hit & miss tbh.

I think where Google shines is in voice directions and finding places.
Siri is a hit or miss for me when asking her to find someplace and get directions to that place. But Google always works and finds the correct place for me.

 

[AustinIllini]

I think where Google shines is in voice directions and finding places.
Siri is a hit or miss for me when asking her to find someplace and get directions to that place. But Google always works and finds the correct place for me.

That's a microcosm of the difference between Apple and Google at this point. Apple makes the more sound and secure software, but Google services are so much better. Google Maps continues to be the mapping standard. By comparison, Apple Maps is not in the same ballpark.

 

[jamezr]

That's a microcosm of the difference between Apple and Google at this point. Apple makes the more sound and secure software, but Google services are so much better. Google Maps continues to be the mapping standard. By comparison, Apple Maps is not in the same ballpark.

i am not so sure about this

Apple makes the more sound and secure software,

But i end up not using Siri as much on my iphone and use Google instead for most things. But its frustrating because you can't change the software defaults in IOS. It still defaults to the Apple Maps.

 

[AustinIllini]

i am not so sure about this

Is there a single Apple service that is better than its Google equivalent? The only thing I can think of is iCloud backup.

But i end up not using Siri as much on my iphone and use Google instead for most things. But its frustrating because you can't change the software defaults in IOS. It still defaults to the Apple Maps.

But that doesn't change the fact that, as a program, Google Now is significantly better than Siri. Basically, you're describing the Internet Explorer of digital assistants.

Siri is easily the worst of the "AI" products. GN, Cortana, and Alexa are all so much better.

 

[jamezr]

Is there a single Apple service that is better than its Google equivalent? The only thing I can think of is iCloud backup.


But that doesn't change the fact that, as a program, Google Now is significantly better than Siri. Basically, you're describing the Internet Explorer of digital assistants.

Siri is easily the worst of the "AI" products. GN, Cortana, and Alexa are all so much better.

whoa...backup a minute.....I think we are saying the same thing here just differently.
I find Google to be the better at what I use it for than Siri.

 

[Fanaticalism]

Is there a single Apple service that is better than its Google equivalent? The only thing I can think of is iCloud backup.


But that doesn't change the fact that, as a program, Google Now is significantly better than Siri. Basically, you're describing the Internet Explorer of digital assistants.

Siri is easily the worst of the "AI" products. GN, Cortana, and Alexa are all so much better.

Re: backups. On 6.0 app data, settings, home screens, contacts, photos, wallpaper and anything else I can think of backs up to G Drive.

When I setup the 6p I literally did nothing outside of log in and for some apps I didn't even need to do that due to some apps using Google Smart Lock.

 

[tbayrgs]

That's a microcosm of the difference between Apple and Google at this point. Apple makes the more sound and secure software, but Google services are so much better. Google Maps continues to be the mapping standard. By comparison, Apple Maps is not in the same ballpark.

Most Google services are certainly far better than their Apple counterparts (exceptions being iMessage/Hangouts, backup solutions, and I think an argument can be made for Apple Photos--maybe a push here ) but considering services and data are their core business, they better be. We could flip that script and say does Google offer any hardware that's better than its Apple counterpart? Apple's business is hardware and that's where they focus most of their development.

 

[Nikhil72]

Now that the 6P has been available for a little bit, have any new 6P owners switched from a Note 5 or 6S+?

I'm interested to hear comparisons and opinions regarding the 6P vs. Those devices.

I enjoyed Marshmallow overall but went back to my 6s+...still runs smoother but most importantly screen on battery life was tremendously different. I know iOS doesn't calculate true screen on but my 6p required a mid-day charge and my 6s+ makes it to midnight with some to spare. Doze works great when the phone is on standby, but in use time is what was my point. Good phone though for those who can work around it; I'm rarely near an outlet until bedtime.

Edit:

As for Google Now vs. Siri, I wish they would hybridize them. Google Now is great for giving me information I may not be searching for but would be helpful. Siri is a better assistant for setting appointments and reminders and making calls and the likes.

 

[Dmaynard83]

Tbh I find most of the voice helpers (Siri & Google Now) a little on the useless side as far as accuracy goes but Siri does tend to be less accurate result wise and sometimes dramatically so.

For example I asked Siri yesterday "convert 3 pm CET to GMT" and it gave me football result from Sweden. I then asked Google Now and whilst Google Now didn't read the answer back it did show a card amongst web results with the correct answer.

However for a lot of stuff I find functionality about same and Siri is often quicker when it comes to launching an app for example.

Also I find Siri whilst less accurate result wise, more accurate voice recognition wise.

Example - Asked both services at same time
"Play me songs by Amos Lee"

Siri will open music app and played the correct artist very quickly.

Google Now thought I said "Play Music by Mussolini" and opened Play Music app and then stumbled ...


So yeah they're both a bit hit & miss tbh.

In my experience using the Moto X pure Google now understands me much better than Siri. I think that Apple is very closed when it comes to their products and that works in a negative way when it comes to voice assistants. Aside from texting, making calls and dictating I don't really use google now or Siri all too much. But asking Siri general questions seems less accurate than Google now.

Google seems more open when it comes to Google now and it works in their favor because you get more developers that are able to fix bugs and make voice prediction more accurate. Whereas Apple is more secretive so their voice prediction lags behind because not as many people are working behind it.

 

[MRU]

In my experience using the Moto X pure Google now understands me much better than Siri. I think that Apple is very closed when it comes to their products and that works in a negative way when it comes to voice assistants. Aside from texting, making calls and dictating I don't really use google now or Siri all too much. But asking Siri general questions seems less accurate than Google now.

Google seems more open when it comes to Google now and it works in their favor because you get more developers that are able to fix bugs and make voice prediction more accurate. Whereas Apple is more secretive so their voice prediction lags behind because not as many people are working behind it.

Moto Voice does add a lot more features and improved voice recognition to the standard Google Now

 

[AustinIllini]

Most Google services are certainly far better than their Apple counterparts (exceptions being iMessage/Hangouts, backup solutions, and I think an argument can be made for Apple Photos--maybe a push here ) but considering services and data are their core business, they better be. We could flip that script and say does Google offer any hardware that's better than its Apple counterpart? Apple's business is hardware and that's where they focus most of their development.

This is definitely the case. I wish Apple was aware of it.

 

[jamezr]

Most Google services are certainly far better than their Apple counterparts (exceptions being iMessage/Hangouts, backup solutions, and I think an argument can be made for Apple Photos--maybe a push here ) but considering services and data are their core business, they better be. We could flip that script and say does Google offer any hardware that's better than its Apple counterpart? Apple's business is hardware and that's where they focus most of their development.

Google might have better services than Apple but they are light years behind in hardware. Light years behind...... No comparisons between my Nexus 6p and my 6s+

 

[Dmaynard83]

Moto Voice does add a lot more features and improved voice recognition to the standard Google Now

Honestly I would rather just use google now instead of moto voice. The small lag time kind annoys me when moto voice hands over to google now.

 

[Flow39]

Same here

You rocking a custom kernel or anything to get that level of battery life?

 

[unclejamaal]

That's a microcosm of the difference between Apple and Google at this point. Apple makes the more sound and secure software, but Google services are so much better. Google Maps continues to be the mapping standard. By comparison, Apple Maps is not in the same ballpark.

I agree
Google maps is head and shoulders above any other 'free' navigation software I've used. The voice also recognizes my destination without any issue. It's also clever to automatically detect any roadworks or traffic issues and reroute if necessary
I'm not aware of such a feature in Apple maps

Edit erm oops. I thought I was going be away from here for a week ;(

 

[Fanaticalism]

You rocking a custom kernel or anything to get that level of battery life?

Nope, straight up stock and that performance has been consistent.

 

[Flow39]

Nope, straight up stock and that performance has been consistent.

Nice! That sounds promising! Hopefully when I get mine I'll have the same battery life

 

[yui4]

Google might have better services than Apple but they are light years behind in hardware. Light years behind...... No comparisons between my Nexus 6p and my 6s+

That much difference? I'm considering ordering a 6p and selling the 6s+

 

[Nikhil72]

That much difference? I'm considering ordering a 6p and selling the 6s+

Battery is a big differentiator. I personally prefer the LCD over the OMLED too but that's a personal preference. And video recording is still better on the iPhone. Like I said earlier, I liked my time with the 6p but there were issues that were important to me that had me jumping back.

 

[Fanaticalism]

That much difference? I'm considering ordering a 6p and selling the 6s+

I personally don't feel Apple is light years ahead of anyone as I feel that Samsung makes the nicest handsets in the industry with the Edge plus and Note 5. Between the 6p and IPhone I find them more similar than not and I actually like the contrast between the high gloss visor and aluminum on the back. Everyone that sees my phone asks me what kind of phone I have and comment on how much they like the look and feel.

 

[jamezr]

That much difference? I'm considering ordering a 6p and selling the 6s+

Google doesn't make hardware but they do have other OEMs produce the Nexus line for them. But IMHO Apple is the best at blending hardware and software together in a product. Overall where you compare the two phones I would say the iphone is a better phone overall than the current Nexus line.
But that is just my opinion.

 

[Blaze4G]

Google might have better services than Apple but they are light years behind in hardware. Light years behind...... No comparisons between my Nexus 6p and my 6s+

What hardware is Apple ahead of Google/Nexus that you notice in daily usage? Only thing I can think of is 3D touch. However I would not call having 3D touch bring light years ahead of Google.