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Sensamic

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There are always amazing deals on the US a few months after a flagship phone is released. It's a shame here in Spain there aren't as many deals and never than soon. Even after a year most flagships are still expensive compared to other countries.
 

tbayrgs

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I was asked for my opinion on the Nexus 6P in this thread so I figured better to move the discussion here to avoid hijacking that discussion.

Would you elaborate a bit more in your likes and dislikes of your Nexus 6P? I'm looking to get the HTC Nexus phone later this year. :)

Overall, I liked the Nexus 6P quite a bit---still own it in fact and may return to it after the final version of Android N is released IF Android Wear improves in some key areas (I speak to that in the Android Wear thread).

Likes:

- Build quality and design--materials feels nice in hand, very similar to the iPhone 6S+, my current preferred daily driver. I'm a sucker for the black slab, monolithic style on the front of a phone and like the iPhone, the 6P delivers in this area.

- How fast the fingerprint scanner works AND that you unlock the phone just by touching it..no button push. Sadly, the fingerprint scanner is also one of my biggest points of contention (will clarify under 'Dislikes'.

- Display. It's very good, not great like the Samsung displays and while on it's own I find it perfectly fine, when put side by side with my iPhone, I actually prefer the color temp and brightness of the iPhone display. Regardless though, this one is quite good.

- Stereo front facing speakers. These are quite good. I first fell for this setup on the HTC One M7 and while it's never a deal breaker for me on phone choice, it's a real 'nice to have' that I'd love to see on all devices.

- Access to the latest version of Android. I've been using iOS since it was first released and love having immediate access to the newest OS releases and I want the same on Android so the Nexus is my only real choice. I love the fact that I can run the latest Android N beta if I so choose...and I am. :D

Dislikes:

Most of my dislikes pertain more to how things work on Android vs. iOS or are Android related so they would apply to almost whatever Android device I use. I'll try to limit my dislikes listed here to those specific to the Nexus 6P.

- The aforementioned fingerprint scanner. Yes, it's quick but I simply cannot stand its location on the back. After switching from the 6S+, I quickly realized I use my phone A LOT when the back of the phone is not reachable...i.e. on a counter/table or in a dock...and the location of the fingerprint scanner is just not conducive to this. Yes, many will suggest you just use the Smart Lock functionality so that the fingerprint scanner isn't needed to unlock the device when I'm home, or connected to a trusted Bluetooth device, etc., yet even then, you still have to wake the phone either using the power button or physically moving the phone (Ambient Display) and then swipe. Why do I still have to swipe if the phone has been awoken and security precautions (Smart Lock) met? :confused::confused:

Needless to say this is endlessly irritating. Additionally, it doesn't solve the problem of using the fingerprint scanner for app authorization (i.e. my banking apps or 1Password), meaning I have to either pick the phone up or physically remove it from my dock. Simply a P.I.T.A. I won't ever get another phone with a rear finger print scanner unless they are literally the only choice I have or they have native tap to wake AND swipe is not required.

Good news it that HTC have embraced the front facing scanner so here's hoping they continue it on the upcoming Nexus phones. I'll sacrifice font facing speakers if it means I can have a front fingerprint scanner.

- On screen buttons. Traditionally I thought I preferred having on screen soft keys but I've come to realize I'd rather have capacitive versions. On screen buttons offer the benefit of potentially being customized yet they eat into usable screen real estate. Yes, I'm aware they disappear when playing games or watching video but that's a pretty small percentage of my personal use). And even then, I have to swipe down from the top of the screen or something else to have them reappear...more unnecessary effort.

- Weight/Feel. This one is me being a little finicky and nit picky but while I like how the build materials feel, the device just doesn't have the same solid heft as the iPhone--feels a bit flimsier. Again, me nitpicking and it wouldn't be a deal breaker. This is clear a personal preference regardless.

- No OIS. Yes, some reviews indicate that it's not a huge issue but EIS is still not a good, IMO and going forward it's something I expect in all of my phones.

Again, my other issues are in reference to Android Wear and Android itself so I won't belabor that in this thread.

Overall, It's a pretty damn good phone. If you don't mind a larger footprint (like the iPhone, not the most efficient use of size, like the recent Samsung phones), aren't bothered by the fingerprint scanner like I am, and have a preference for stock Android, I'd still recommend it. If you could give me stock Android with those timely updates on a device like the Samsung S7..I'd probably go that route instead. ;)
 
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epicrayban

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I was asked for my opinion on the Nexus 6P in this thread so I figured better to move the discussion here to avoid hijacking that discussion.



Overall, I liked the Nexus 6P quite a bit---still own it in fact and may return to it after the final version of Android N is released IF Android Wear improves in some key areas (I speak to that in the Android Wear thread).

Likes:

- Build quality and design--materials feels nice in hand, very similar to the iPhone 6S+, my current preferred daily driver. I'm a sucker for the black slab, monolithic style on the front of a phone and like the iPhone, the 6P delivers in this area.

- How fast the fingerprint scanner works AND that you unlock the phone just by touching it..no button push. Sadly, the fingerprint scanner is also one of my biggest points of contention (will clarify under 'Dislikes'.

- Display. It's very good, not great like the Samsung displays and while on it's own I find it perfectly fine, when put side by side with my iPhone, I actually prefer the color temp and brightness of the iPhone display. Regardless though, this one is quite good.

- Stereo front facing speakers. These are quite good. I first fell for this setup on the HTC One M7 and while it's never a deal breaker for me on phone choice, it's a real 'nice to have' that I'd love to see on all devices.

- Access to the latest version of Android. I've been using iOS since it was first released and love having immediate access to the newest OS releases and I want the same on Android so the Nexus is my only real choice. I love the fact that I can run the latest Android N beta if I so choose...and I am. :D

Dislikes:

Most of my dislikes pertain more to how things work on Android vs. iOS or are Android related so they would apply to almost whatever Android device I use. I'll try to limit my dislikes listed here to those specific to the Nexus 6P.

- The aforementioned fingerprint scanner. Yes, it's quick but I simply cannot stand its location on the back. After switching from the 6S+, I quickly realized I use my phone A LOT when the back of the phone is not reachable...i.e. on a counter/table or in a dock...and the location of the fingerprint scanner is just not conducive to this. Yes, many will suggest you just use the Smart Lock functionality so that the fingerprint scanner isn't needed to unlock the device when I'm home, or connected to a trusted Bluetooth device, etc., yet even then, you still have to wake the phone either using the power button or physically moving the phone (Ambient Display) and then swipe. Why do I still have to swipe if the phone has been awoken and security precautions (Smart Lock) met? :confused::confused:

Needless to say this is endlessly irritating. Additionally, it doesn't solve the problem of using the fingerprint scanner for app authorization (i.e. my banking apps or 1Password), meaning I have to either pick the phone up or physically remove it from my dock. Simply a P.I.T.A. I won't ever get another phone with a rear finger print scanner unless they are literally the only choice I have or they have native tap to wake AND swipe is not required.

Good news it that HTC have embraced the front facing scanner so here's hoping they continue it on the upcoming Nexus phones. I'll sacrifice font facing speakers if it means I can have a front fingerprint scanner.

- On screen buttons. Traditionally I thought I preferred having on screen soft keys but I've come to realize I'd rather have capacitive versions. On screen buttons offer the benefit of potentially being customized yet they eat into usable screen real estate. Yes, I'm aware they disappear when playing games or watching video but that's a pretty small percentage of my personal use). And even then, I have to swipe down from the top of the screen or something else to have them reappear...more unnecessary effort.

- Weight/Feel. This one is me being a little finicky and nit picky but while I like how the build materials feel, the device just doesn't have the same solid heft as the iPhone--feels a bit flimsier. Again, me nitpicking and it wouldn't be a deal breaker. This is clear a personal preference regardless.

- No OIS. Yes, some reviews indicate that it's not a huge issue but EIS is still not a good, IMO and going forward it's something I expect in all of my phones.

Again, my other issues are in reference to Android Wear and Android itself so I won't belabor that is this thread.

Overall, It's a pretty damn good phone. If you don't mind a larger footprint (like the iPhone, not the most efficient use of size, like the recent Samsung phones), aren't bothered by the fingerprint scanner like I am, and have a preference for stock Android, I'd still recommend it. If you could give me stock Android with those timely updates on a device like the Samsung S7..I'd probably go that route instead. ;)

HTC Nexus, baby.

Google has all the right ingredients. Just have to put it together and deliver...!
 

Neverbepeace

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HTC Nexus, baby.

Google has all the right ingredients. Just have to put it together and deliver...!

You know what?

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v0lume4

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Jul 28, 2012
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I was asked for my opinion on the Nexus 6P in this thread so I figured better to move the discussion here to avoid hijacking that discussion.



Overall, I liked the Nexus 6P quite a bit---still own it in fact and may return to it after the final version of Android N is released IF Android Wear improves in some key areas (I speak to that in the Android Wear thread).

Likes:

- Build quality and design--materials feels nice in hand, very similar to the iPhone 6S+, my current preferred daily driver. I'm a sucker for the black slab, monolithic style on the front of a phone and like the iPhone, the 6P delivers in this area.

- How fast the fingerprint scanner works AND that you unlock the phone just by touching it..no button push. Sadly, the fingerprint scanner is also one of my biggest points of contention (will clarify under 'Dislikes'.

- Display. It's very good, not great like the Samsung displays and while on it's own I find it perfectly fine, when put side by side with my iPhone, I actually prefer the color temp and brightness of the iPhone display. Regardless though, this one is quite good.

- Stereo front facing speakers. These are quite good. I first fell for this setup on the HTC One M7 and while it's never a deal breaker for me on phone choice, it's a real 'nice to have' that I'd love to see on all devices.

- Access to the latest version of Android. I've been using iOS since it was first released and love having immediate access to the newest OS releases and I want the same on Android so the Nexus is my only real choice. I love the fact that I can run the latest Android N beta if I so choose...and I am. :D

Dislikes:

Most of my dislikes pertain more to how things work on Android vs. iOS or are Android related so they would apply to almost whatever Android device I use. I'll try to limit my dislikes listed here to those specific to the Nexus 6P.

- The aforementioned fingerprint scanner. Yes, it's quick but I simply cannot stand its location on the back. After switching from the 6S+, I quickly realized I use my phone A LOT when the back of the phone is not reachable...i.e. on a counter/table or in a dock...and the location of the fingerprint scanner is just not conducive to this. Yes, many will suggest you just use the Smart Lock functionality so that the fingerprint scanner isn't needed to unlock the device when I'm home, or connected to a trusted Bluetooth device, etc., yet even then, you still have to wake the phone either using the power button or physically moving the phone (Ambient Display) and then swipe. Why do I still have to swipe if the phone has been awoken and security precautions (Smart Lock) met? :confused::confused:

Needless to say this is endlessly irritating. Additionally, it doesn't solve the problem of using the fingerprint scanner for app authorization (i.e. my banking apps or 1Password), meaning I have to either pick the phone up or physically remove it from my dock. Simply a P.I.T.A. I won't ever get another phone with a rear finger print scanner unless they are literally the only choice I have or they have native tap to wake AND swipe is not required.

Good news it that HTC have embraced the front facing scanner so here's hoping they continue it on the upcoming Nexus phones. I'll sacrifice font facing speakers if it means I can have a front fingerprint scanner.

- On screen buttons. Traditionally I thought I preferred having on screen soft keys but I've come to realize I'd rather have capacitive versions. On screen buttons offer the benefit of potentially being customized yet they eat into usable screen real estate. Yes, I'm aware they disappear when playing games or watching video but that's a pretty small percentage of my personal use). And even then, I have to swipe down from the top of the screen or something else to have them reappear...more unnecessary effort.

- Weight/Feel. This one is me being a little finicky and nit picky but while I like how the build materials feel, the device just doesn't have the same solid heft as the iPhone--feels a bit flimsier. Again, me nitpicking and it wouldn't be a deal breaker. This is clear a personal preference regardless.

- No OIS. Yes, some reviews indicate that it's not a huge issue but EIS is still not a good, IMO and going forward it's something I expect in all of my phones.

Again, my other issues are in reference to Android Wear and Android itself so I won't belabor that in this thread.

Overall, It's a pretty damn good phone. If you don't mind a larger footprint (like the iPhone, not the most efficient use of size, like the recent Samsung phones), aren't bothered by the fingerprint scanner like I am, and have a preference for stock Android, I'd still recommend it. If you could give me stock Android with those timely updates on a device like the Samsung S7..I'd probably go that route instead. ;)
I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my question in such detail a few days ago. It's enlightening to hear that you don't have any make it or break it issues with your Nexus. The last time I owned an Android phone was when Android was on 2.2. That phone experience was so poor that, after purchasing the iPhone 5, I made a video of chainsawing the Android handset in half and posted it on Facebook. I was a kid then, no judgement. Ha!

The Nexus 6P is far too large for me. I'm truly hoping for a fully featured Nexus handset in a 5.0" package this year. Come on, HTC! (Ironically, the aforementioned android phone of mine was an HTC)
 

Tig Bitties

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My only concern with the 6P ( I have never played with one, so could be way off ) is the 3GB RAM. Is that enough today ? Even with Android N coming soon, seems most phones today are all 4GB minimum, and the 2nd half of this year 6GB memory will be the norm, how will the 6P age with just 6GB ?
 

epicrayban

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My only concern with the 6P ( I have never played with one, so could be way off ) is the 3GB RAM. Is that enough today ? Even with Android N coming soon, seems most phones today are all 4GB minimum, and the 2nd half of this year 6GB memory will be the norm, how will the 6P age with just 6GB ?

It'll probably be fine for at least another year, if not more.

What's interesting to consider is what RAM the Nexus devices will bring this year. Could we see 6GB of RAM in the larger model? I hope at least 4GB all around.
 
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MRU

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My only concern with the 6P ( I have never played with one, so could be way off ) is the 3GB RAM. Is that enough today ? Even with Android N coming soon, seems most phones today are all 4GB minimum, and the 2nd half of this year 6GB memory will be the norm, how will the 6P age with just 6GB ?

I never had any memory management issues with the 6P and would routinely have 13 or 14 apps in the background. (Not games). Got to remember its system overhead is vastly lower to other OEM's so having 1gb less than the S7 for example is nothing when its only using 700mb for the the system compared to 2.1/2.2 gb on the S7.

They probably will go to 4gb on the bigger nexus and 3gb on the lower nexus this year, but the 6P is still more than capable at multitasking with its 3.
 

nj-morris

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My only concern with the 6P ( I have never played with one, so could be way off ) is the 3GB RAM. Is that enough today ? Even with Android N coming soon, seems most phones today are all 4GB minimum, and the 2nd half of this year 6GB memory will be the norm, how will the 6P age with just 6GB ?

As far as I know, stock Android is pretty good at memory management. Hell, I haven't even heard any complaints about RAM with the Nexus 5X, with just 2GB.
 
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Tig Bitties

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Yeah I forgot how much better stock Android manages the OS and small footprint it takes up compared to like Touchwiz or Sense.

I'm a ROM guy, and Samsung + HTC ROM sizes take up like 1.5GB to 1.75GB, whereas stock Nexus ROM + GAPPS can take up only like 500MB to 700MB, that right there is saving 1GB. And if you want to go hardcore you can get Nexus ROM's down to only like 375MB size.
 
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Surf Donkey

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If you haven't grabbed it, the final DP (5) for Nougat is out today! I won't give away the easter egg (not sure if it will be in the final) but it has been a bit of an adventure :)
 

Surf Donkey

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Just waiting for the next juicy deal to get my parents' two Nexus 5X.

Do they want to go on Project Fi? $199 there with an activation on Fi, but I am pretty sure you can cancel anytime after activation and keep the discount. But Fi might work out for them if they use say less than 2GB data per month.
 
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THE JUICEMAN

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I was asked for my opinion on the Nexus 6P in this thread so I figured better to move the discussion here to avoid hijacking that discussion.



Overall, I liked the Nexus 6P quite a bit---still own it in fact and may return to it after the final version of Android N is released IF Android Wear improves in some key areas (I speak to that in the Android Wear thread).

Likes:

- Build quality and design--materials feels nice in hand, very similar to the iPhone 6S+, my current preferred daily driver. I'm a sucker for the black slab, monolithic style on the front of a phone and like the iPhone, the 6P delivers in this area.

- How fast the fingerprint scanner works AND that you unlock the phone just by touching it..no button push. Sadly, the fingerprint scanner is also one of my biggest points of contention (will clarify under 'Dislikes'.

- Display. It's very good, not great like the Samsung displays and while on it's own I find it perfectly fine, when put side by side with my iPhone, I actually prefer the color temp and brightness of the iPhone display. Regardless though, this one is quite good.

- Stereo front facing speakers. These are quite good. I first fell for this setup on the HTC One M7 and while it's never a deal breaker for me on phone choice, it's a real 'nice to have' that I'd love to see on all devices.

- Access to the latest version of Android. I've been using iOS since it was first released and love having immediate access to the newest OS releases and I want the same on Android so the Nexus is my only real choice. I love the fact that I can run the latest Android N beta if I so choose...and I am. :D

Dislikes:

Most of my dislikes pertain more to how things work on Android vs. iOS or are Android related so they would apply to almost whatever Android device I use. I'll try to limit my dislikes listed here to those specific to the Nexus 6P.

- The aforementioned fingerprint scanner. Yes, it's quick but I simply cannot stand its location on the back. After switching from the 6S+, I quickly realized I use my phone A LOT when the back of the phone is not reachable...i.e. on a counter/table or in a dock...and the location of the fingerprint scanner is just not conducive to this. Yes, many will suggest you just use the Smart Lock functionality so that the fingerprint scanner isn't needed to unlock the device when I'm home, or connected to a trusted Bluetooth device, etc., yet even then, you still have to wake the phone either using the power button or physically moving the phone (Ambient Display) and then swipe. Why do I still have to swipe if the phone has been awoken and security precautions (Smart Lock) met? :confused::confused:

Needless to say this is endlessly irritating. Additionally, it doesn't solve the problem of using the fingerprint scanner for app authorization (i.e. my banking apps or 1Password), meaning I have to either pick the phone up or physically remove it from my dock. Simply a P.I.T.A. I won't ever get another phone with a rear finger print scanner unless they are literally the only choice I have or they have native tap to wake AND swipe is not required.

Good news it that HTC have embraced the front facing scanner so here's hoping they continue it on the upcoming Nexus phones. I'll sacrifice font facing speakers if it means I can have a front fingerprint scanner.

- On screen buttons. Traditionally I thought I preferred having on screen soft keys but I've come to realize I'd rather have capacitive versions. On screen buttons offer the benefit of potentially being customized yet they eat into usable screen real estate. Yes, I'm aware they disappear when playing games or watching video but that's a pretty small percentage of my personal use). And even then, I have to swipe down from the top of the screen or something else to have them reappear...more unnecessary effort.

- Weight/Feel. This one is me being a little finicky and nit picky but while I like how the build materials feel, the device just doesn't have the same solid heft as the iPhone--feels a bit flimsier. Again, me nitpicking and it wouldn't be a deal breaker. This is clear a personal preference regardless.

- No OIS. Yes, some reviews indicate that it's not a huge issue but EIS is still not a good, IMO and going forward it's something I expect in all of my phones.

Again, my other issues are in reference to Android Wear and Android itself so I won't belabor that in this thread.

Overall, It's a pretty damn good phone. If you don't mind a larger footprint (like the iPhone, not the most efficient use of size, like the recent Samsung phones), aren't bothered by the fingerprint scanner like I am, and have a preference for stock Android, I'd still recommend it. If you could give me stock Android with those timely updates on a device like the Samsung S7..I'd probably go that route instead. ;)


Thanks for this review. Very helpful. I am currently debating between a few phones (Note 7, iPhone 7 Plus, Nexus 2016, Nexus 6P, S7/7 Edge). I love how you compared iOS updated to Android updates. If you want them on Android like you said......there's really only one choice. I also like how you talked about the finger print sensor being on the back. It made me realize how often I've got my phone on a stand or table and I would hate to have to pick it up in order to use it. These two things eliminate all the phones above accept the Nexus 2016. Now if i can just get my brain to accept this and wait until google gets on with the release.

Edit - I just remembered that all the Nexus 2016 leaks point to a finger print sensor on the back of the HTC.....
 

THE JUICEMAN

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Does anyone know how much the previous year Nexus usually drops once the new one comes out? Best guess? I really don't feel like waiting until the end of September.
 
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ramram55

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You can prob grab a nexus 6p for about 250-275 after new nexus or 200 after a few months the new nexus comes out.
Is this new you are talking about ? Come to think of it 5X will even be cheaper than the current price of $200 with project fi sign up. Good news.
 

Ev0d3vil

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Is anyone on the latest 6.0.1 with Aug patches having this annoying battery drain with Android OS? Am on stock and no root. 6P here btw.
 
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