Finally! someone who uses a professional 3D CAD software with the nMP, I'm not alone anymore!!!!
haha.. you're not alone.. looking in the wrong place though
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haha.. you're not alone.. looking in the wrong place though
haha.. you're not alone.. looking in the wrong place though
Wrong place?? I didn't know MR has a subforum for CAD users who use Macs
Wrong place?? I didn't know MR has a subforum for CAD users who use Macs
it doesn't.. that's what i meant by wrong place
overall, this place (macrumors) is a hardware forum.
(though you can get pretty good discussions about osx and some other apple software in the respective subforums)
fwiw, my main software is rhino..
a frequent poster around here who uses solidworks is dr.stealth
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1613003/
..but i wouldn't really recommend contacting him with questions about the new mac.
If anyone wants to see a heat and sound test under full CPU load I thought I would make this video. I get this question quite often. I have a 6 Core with D500's base model with 12GB of RAM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdFzmmrldoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdFzmmrldoQ
Excellent video, thanks for the effort. Also, you need to catch up on all those unread emails in your inbox!
LOL... this just demonstrates the folly with trying to measure the noise this thing makes!
Does someone knows if it's possible to boot Windows 7/8 on a Thunderbolt SSD external drive ? I heard some things about "WinClone" that require a previous bootcamp installation on the main nMP internal drive.
And I know that Microsoft has an official support (and costly I think) for booting on external drive, but I don't know if it's reliable with TB drive on Mac.
TB SSD (or drive) are more interesting for hosting native OS than previous external storage solution due to the almost inexistant latency, it's just like having another internal drive.
And I know that Microsoft has an official support (and costly I think) for booting on external drive, but I don't know if it's reliable with TB drive on Mac.
TB SSD (or drive) are more interesting for hosting native OS than previous external storage solution due to the almost inexistant latency, it's just like having another internal drive.
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I can't say for the nMP as I haven't received mine but on my mbp2012 I could install win8.1 simply by booting from the dvd on my lacie thunderbult drive. So I think it will work on the nMP, too.
Have a look at this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1692097/
LumpyDog posts a good process later in the thread
Has anyone tried to test the performance of the USB3 ports when used by several devices? Anandtech seems to think the four USB3 ports are on a single PCIe v2.0 lane, which means they may be limited to a total of 500mb/sec; probably fine for what Apple intends such as keyboards, printers, scanners etc., but for people wanting to hook up USB displays and storage it might get saturated pretty quickly.
If anyone with the new Mac Pro is willing to try to test the USB3 ports to saturation then it'd be greatly appreciated, to see if there are actually four full speed USB3 ports or not.
Actually, it might be interesting to see if anyone can do the same with Thunderbolt 2 as well, since Anandtech reports 8x PCIe v3.0 lanes to the three Thunderbolt controllers, which is only about 8gb/sec bandwidth shared between the six ports iirc.
The Anandtech page on PCIe in the new Mac Pro is here for anyone else that's interested.
If anyone with the new Mac Pro is willing to try to test the USB3 ports to saturation then it'd be greatly appreciated, to see if there are actually four full speed USB3 ports or not.
Actually, it might be interesting to see if anyone can do the same with Thunderbolt 2 as well, since Anandtech reports 8x PCIe v3.0 lanes to the three Thunderbolt controllers, which is only about 8gb/sec bandwidth shared between the six ports iirc.
The Anandtech page on PCIe in the new Mac Pro is here for anyone else that's interested.
It would also be interesting to see how it handles bus-powered devices. 6 Tbolt + 6 USB ports adds up to >70Watts of power. The machine already pushes beyond its 450W PSU on certain tasks. Having a couple bus-powered TBolt drives may actually hinder GPU+CPU performance
I've had the CTO 6-core, 512GB, 32GB, D500 new Mac Pro since 1/8.
Replaced a Late 2012 Mac Mini (2.6Ghz quad-Core i7, 16GB, ~1.1TB Fusion).
I don't expect I'll change anything, but if I had it to do over again...
I'd probably get the 4-core.
I'd probably opt for the 1TB SSD.
I'd probably go with OWC RAM.
I'm not sure I'd pick the D500's again, but I don't know if I'd opt for the D300's or the D700's.
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Replaced a Late 2012 Mac Mini (2.6Ghz quad-Core i7, 16GB, ~1.1TB Fusion).
I don't expect I'll change anything, but if I had it to do over again...
I'd probably get the 4-core.
I'd probably opt for the 1TB SSD.
I'd probably go with OWC RAM.
I'm not sure I'd pick the D500's again, but I don't know if I'd opt for the D300's or the D700's.
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Thanks a lot! I've been trying to explain to those who haven't had the can on their desk just exactly what hearing practically nothing sounds like!
They might believe me now cheers!
The new Mac Pro's ability to stay quiet even under load means there's no noise penalty for working it hard. My Late 2012 Mini (fan) would start SCREAMING under even 20% load for any length of time.
Before the Late 2012 Mini, I had a 2006 Mac Pro 1,1 w/256GB SSD & internal disks & NAS. With the (Fusion drive) Mini, I wound up with a lot of stuff on Thunderbolt & USB3 DAS (because the Fusion drive is slow in many use-cases).
I bought the new Mac Pro as kind of a drop-in replacement for the Mini. It works fine with the DAS, but if I'd gone with the 1TB flash, I could probably eliminate (or at least reduce) the DAS.
I haven't seen any use-cases yet where the D500 performs better than the D300.
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I understand, for what you saying the nMP that you choose it's more than you really need.
You can return it and choose the right one for your needs.
Mac Performance Guide benchmarks
Lloyd Chambers has started his Mac Pro shootout comparing a 2010 12-core 3.33 with the nMP 4-core upgraded to 8-core from OWC, and will be adding a nMP 6-core when it arrives from B&H.
http://macperformanceguide.com/MacPro2013-performance-PhotoshopCC-diglloydSpeed.html
Lloyd Chambers has started his Mac Pro shootout comparing a 2010 12-core 3.33 with the nMP 4-core upgraded to 8-core from OWC, and will be adding a nMP 6-core when it arrives from B&H.
http://macperformanceguide.com/MacPro2013-performance-PhotoshopCC-diglloydSpeed.html
I read that earlier - very impressive for the 8 core indeed. So much for a twin hex 5,1 getting anywhere near parity, not even barefeats 3.46 will get close and if they are playing hot rod modding CPU's I think it's only fair they drop an 8-core E5-2667 v2 upgrade into the nMP!
Based on what I've read so far, the D500 has more compute power. If Apple's gamble on GCGPU pays off, it can lead to a nice speed bump for applications that take advantage of it over the D300. But if assessed purely from the traditional perspective of the graphics card as a pixel pusher, it appears there is little difference between the two. With the D500 you are buying potential. There is always the risk this potential doesn't get realized.
nMP and 3D apps
First post here, but I thought I'd get into the convo about these little turbines and how they handle 3D apps.
I took the plunge and ordered a hex-core, d500 machine just to test the waters. I'm really curious to see how the machine handles Maya, Zbrush, Vray, and the Adobe Creative Suite.
I'm currently on a 2 year old, 64-bit windows 8.1 workstation, with a hex core i7, quadro card and 32gig of memory.
I know the apps, as they stand, will not take advantage of the dual GPU setup, so my expectations are insanely high. But I am hoping to get a more stable machine, with better speed and better rendering power when it comes to Vray. If all goes well, I'll probably end up purchasing another MacPro when Apple inevitably releases a dual cpu configuration.
Has anybody here tested any of these apps? It would be great to see others experience with these apps on the nMP.
Thanks.
First post here, but I thought I'd get into the convo about these little turbines and how they handle 3D apps.
I took the plunge and ordered a hex-core, d500 machine just to test the waters. I'm really curious to see how the machine handles Maya, Zbrush, Vray, and the Adobe Creative Suite.
I'm currently on a 2 year old, 64-bit windows 8.1 workstation, with a hex core i7, quadro card and 32gig of memory.
I know the apps, as they stand, will not take advantage of the dual GPU setup, so my expectations are insanely high. But I am hoping to get a more stable machine, with better speed and better rendering power when it comes to Vray. If all goes well, I'll probably end up purchasing another MacPro when Apple inevitably releases a dual cpu configuration.
Has anybody here tested any of these apps? It would be great to see others experience with these apps on the nMP.
Thanks.