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When will the iMac be refreshed?

  • September/October Event

  • November/December Event

  • March/April Event

  • WWDC 2019


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Dave245

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I actually don't care if there is an event to be honest, I'd be ok with a silent upgrade release via the website like with the Macbook Pro.

I just want that improved CPU....new cpu's means I don't have to buy the top end i7-7700k, I could get an i5 with 6 core and be just fine.

Maybe some stuff coul get a silent update? But I think the iPad Pro’s will get an event along with the new MacBook that’s rumoured and the Mac min. iMacs could get silent updates if there is nothing major however I still think they will announce them at the same event as iPad Pro.
 

Glmnet1

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I just want that improved CPU....new cpu's means I don't have to buy the top end i7-7700k, I could get an i5 with 6 core and be just fine.
Which might explain why it's taking so long... The sudden jump in cores in Intel's lineup is disturbing Apple's carefully planned Mac lineup. They're probably looking for a way to upsell us using the new CPUs, like they did by not upgrading the nTB MBP.
 

DQ11

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Apr 12, 2018
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Which might explain why it's taking so long... The sudden jump in cores in Intel's lineup is disturbing Apple's carefully planned Mac lineup. They're probably looking for a way to upsell us using the new CPUs, like they did by not upgrading the nTB MBP.

I wouldn't put it past them.

It was going to cost me $3,500 for the 27" i7-7700k + 512 SSD + 16 GB RAM + Track Pad + Logic Pro X + Tax + CD Burner.

It would be nice if I could get something like that for around $2,500 instead.
 

HoorahMacHoorah

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Aug 13, 2018
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I got over $4000 to spend, and if we haven’t heard anything at the end of the week, I will buy a Windows-comp. I need my games man! I hate Windows, but my mid 2010 graphic-card is out of date! and has been for over 2 months now. I’m not gonna look at the 2017 iMac. Not buying old stuff
 
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alien3dx

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Feb 12, 2017
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I got over $4000 to spend, and if we haven’t heard anything at the end of the week, I will buy a Windows-comp. I need my games man! I hate Windows, but my mid 2010 graphic-card is out of date! and has been for over 2 months now. I’m not gonna look at the 2017 iMac. Not buying old stuff
go to linux sir but mac ? for games.??
 

LiE_

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Mar 23, 2013
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My money is on a silent update, same at the MPB.
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I got over $4000 to spend, and if we haven’t heard anything at the end of the week, I will buy a Windows-comp. I need my games man! I hate Windows, but my mid 2010 graphic-card is out of date! and has been for over 2 months now. I’m not gonna look at the 2017 iMac. Not buying old stuff

Mac isn't a good option for games. I'd either buy a refreshed iMac + console or just go Windows now.
 
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stillcrazyman

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Antici...........pation. My Late 2012 iMac seems to be doing alright with Mojave. But I am planning to get a new Mac at some point. Hope we don’t have to wait too long.
 
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HappyIntro

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I got over $4000 to spend, and if we haven’t heard anything at the end of the week, I will buy a Windows-comp. I need my games man! I hate Windows, but my mid 2010 graphic-card is out of date! and has been for over 2 months now. I’m not gonna look at the 2017 iMac. Not buying old stuff

Have you considered a refurbished iMac Pro? I recently purchased the base model for $750 off the retail price. Alternatively you can look for discounts on a new iMac Pro from places such as B&H. I think the Vega cards in the iMac Pro would play your Mac games very nicely.
 
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cwanja

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I got over $4000 to spend, and if we haven’t heard anything at the end of the week, I will buy a Windows-comp. I need my games man! I hate Windows, but my mid 2010 graphic-card is out of date! and has been for over 2 months now. I’m not gonna look at the 2017 iMac. Not buying old stuff
You gave yourself (and Apple) a pretty aggressive timeline. It is all but unlikely that if Intel updates them today (Monday, 10/1) you will see an update by "end of week". You might as well buy the Windows computer today.
 

KimaniB

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Oct 12, 2017
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Was literally going to buy a iMac 4K, it’s was $250 off on Saturday at Best Buy.

Just decided to wait to see if the new versions are announced soon.

I’m typing this as I sit in front of Best Buy to try out the Mac book pro with Touch Bar.
 

iZeljko

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Sep 20, 2018
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I think I've found a perfect candidate for a Hackintosh iMac replacement.
Warn you, the price is steep but I am really finding this to be the first peace of hardware that I might actually replace my Mac with. To make things better, I came across this machine when searching for iMac leaks on youtube.

I've forgot to add that the hardware spec is not really something to write home about, but if they would release a new model with up to spec hardware... I might be tempted to Hackintosh it.


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-studio/8XCW9BBPVFV9/961H?activetab=pivot:eek:verviewtab

 
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Zdigital2015

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Typical “leak” by Intel - https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-9900k-price-amazon,37871.html

If you are not aware of how Intel launches products, then this will get annoying quickly. Months of rumors, leaks and selective benchmarks until the MarCom team finally coughs up a damn press release. Or the Intel ARK will show the CPUs and MarCom will forget to post the press release.

Expect the BTO cost for the Core i9-9900K to be $200 to $300 above the Core i7-9700K, which will be $200 above the Core i5-9600K.

I am still hoping for a Vega Nano BTO option on top of the RX580X or RX680, depending on whether AMD had near final samples for Apple to integrate into the test bench...however, I am pretty sure that BTO option would be around $200 to $300 as well.

Time to gear up for the crazy.
 

HappyIntro

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Typical “leak” by Intel - https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-9900k-price-amazon,37871.html

If you are not aware of how Intel launches products, then this will get annoying quickly. Months of rumors, leaks and selective benchmarks until the MarCom team finally coughs up a damn press release. Or the Intel ARK will show the CPUs and MarCom will forget to post the press release.

Expect the BTO cost for the Core i9-9900K to be $200 to $300 above the Core i7-9700K, which will be $200 above the Core i5-9600K.

I am still hoping for a Vega Nano BTO option on top of the RX580X or RX680, depending on whether AMD had near final samples for Apple to integrate into the test bench...however, I am pretty sure that BTO option would be around $200 to $300 as well.

Time to gear up for the crazy.

I would think that any iMac that offers an i9-9900K/9700K would need a better cooling solution than the current design. Maybe that will force the next iMac to get the iMac Pro's cooling system, which would be great. Or it may force an overdue redesign of the iMac enclosure to improve cooling and refresh its appearance. That would be great too.
 

craigrusse11

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I would think that any iMac that offers an i9-9900K/9700K would need a better cooling solution than the current design. Maybe that will force the next iMac to get the iMac Pro's cooling system, which would be great. Or it may force an overdue redesign of the iMac enclosure to improve cooling and refresh its appearance. That would be great too.
Yup, anything over a 90W CPU will require the iMac Pro cooling assembly.
 

Zdigital2015

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I would think that any iMac that offers an i9-9900K/9700K would need a better cooling solution than the current design. Maybe that will force the next iMac to get the iMac Pro's cooling system, which would be great. Or it may force an overdue redesign of the iMac enclosure to improve cooling and refresh its appearance. That would be great too.

Not to sound curt, but that issue has been discussed ad nauseam on this thread. Considering the CPUs that was offered in the Late 2012 iMac when it debuted had a 77w TDP, I would agree with you 100% that Apple will most likely adopt the iMac Pro-style TMS which means no DRAM access door moving forward.
 

Fishrrman

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Feb 20, 2009
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If there is a new iMac (probably 2nd quarter 2019), it WON'T have "the latest" CPU chips in it.

Apple doesn't work that way.

What it will probably have is "the last chip back", so to speak.
 
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Kurri

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If there is a new iMac (probably 2nd quarter 2019), it WON'T have "the latest" CPU chips in it.

Apple doesn't work that way.

What it will probably have is "the last chip back", so to speak.

unfortunately, you are probably right.
 
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HappyIntro

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Not to sound curt, but that issue has been discussed ad nauseam on this thread. Considering the CPUs that was offered in the Late 2012 iMac when it debuted had a 77w TDP, I would agree with you 100% that Apple will most likely adopt the iMac Pro-style TMS which means no DRAM access door moving forward.

Yeah, I guess I am stating the obvious and bringing up a common talking point wrt the next iteration of the iMac. However when talking about possible high-TDP chips as part of the next update, I feel the cooling capacity of the current design should be brought up as well. I can't wait to see how Apple pulls off the next update - there's lots of issues that could be addressed for the better.
 

Zdigital2015

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If there is a new iMac (probably 2nd quarter 2019), it WON'T have "the latest" CPU chips in it.

Apple doesn't work that way.

What it will probably have is "the last chip back", so to speak.

Apple has the latest Intel CPUs in the 13" and 15" MacBook Pros that were released to the public on July 12, after they we launched by Intel on April 2nd, which means that it took 15 weeks from Intel announce to Apple ship. Apple had product for sale in their stores before Dell had orders in customers hands.

Apple introduced the 2017 iMacs on June 12th, 2017, with Kaby Lake CPUs that were launched on January 3, 2017, which means it took 22 weeks before Apple updated their lineup. Slower than many, but not the end of the world. Besides, even with Coffee Lake being introduced in August of 2018, Intel did not complete its lineup of CPU suitable for the iMac until April of this year (i5-8600, i5-8500) or have good initial supply of those earlier CPUs, hence the staggered rollout.

My hope is that Apple decided to wait until the announcement and release of Intel's Z390 PCH and the 9th Generation CPUs to update the iMac. Unfortunately, Intel is now the one saying they may have production constraints on all 14nm CPUs, which is bad news for every PC OEM, not just Apple, going into the 2018 holiday buying season.

It is possible that may mean that Apple holds the iMac updates until next year, but I am confident that they will be 9th generation CPUs in the 27", although Apple may opt for the 8th Generation CPUs in the 21.5" depending on how well Intel fixes its supply issues.

If Apple is indeed revving the 13" MacBook (Air) and the Mac mini, it may ask Intel to prioritize those CPUs to make sure it does not have any supply issues after the introduction as this is going to be a pretty big launch for them.

Intel is trying to fix their supply issue as we speak, so the argument may be moot. I still expect Apple to rev the iMac with 9th Generation CPUs, at least in the 27" iMac, if not in the next 4-6 weeks, then in Q1 of 2019.
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Yeah, I guess I am stating the obvious and bringing up a common talking point wrt the next iteration of the iMac. However when talking about possible high-TDP chips as part of the next update, I feel the cooling capacity of the current design should be brought up as well. I can't wait to see how Apple pulls off the next update - there's lots of issues that could be addressed for the better.
Improving the cooling system is the most obvious, but removing spinning storage is the other...we're not there yet in terms of price for Apple to maintain their margins, so it is a waiting game at this point. Moving to Coffee Lake anything requires a new motherboard (2017 iMacs use the Skylake Z170 PCH), so the opportunity to rework the insides of the current iMac is somewhat of a necessity as well, as Coffee Lake is 6-cores all the way down the S-Series CPU line, at least what Apple uses. The iMac Pro's TMS doesn't have to accommodate HDDs, so its all speculation until iFixit tears the thing apart or Apple makes it a USP in a keynote.
 

Internet Enzyme

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I havent been on this thread in a very long time, so I’m curious what the general opinion is on here. Does October still seem likely? I feel dubious about that given there have been literally no leaks suggesting as such. Either way, I am happy with my top spec iMac 5K that I’ve had since July 17th. I guess we’ll see if my impatience comes back to bite me in the ass or not.
 

iZeljko

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Sep 20, 2018
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Yup, anything over a 90W CPU will require the iMac Pro cooling assembly.
Hm, there might be a way...

Apple is saying that a "modular" pro oriented machine is coming out.
What if they apply this to all of the new models?

Imagine a new iMac with the same TMS (cooling) and no dGPU. That TMS would cool 100W CPU with out problems.
The modular design comes from already existing eGPU options...

Now that I'm thinking about this it makes sense why apple removed the eGPU support for non TB3 models. Officially supported eGPU would extend life of the "trash can" MPs rather well. Ant that is not in apple's interest.
 

redheeler

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Oct 17, 2014
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I havent been on this thread in a very long time, so I’m curious what the general opinion is on here. Does October still seem likely? I feel dubious about that given there have been literally no leaks suggesting as such. Either way, I am happy with my top spec iMac 5K that I’ve had since July 17th. I guess we’ll see if my impatience comes back to bite me in the ass or not.
Yes, an October event still seems likely given the products that need a refresh before the start of the holiday shopping season (iMac, MacBook / MacBook Air, iPad Pro, Mac mini). We're still at least a week or two away from the official announcement though.

Typically Macs and iPads don't see as many leaks compared to iPhones. For example, the timing of the 2018 MacBook Pro refresh was a complete surprise to most of us. So don't rule out the possibility of an October event simply based on a lack of leaks.
 

SkiHound2

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Jul 15, 2018
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Any thoughts on how the i7 9700 or 9700X will compare to the 8700/8700X. The latter have multithreading while the former do not. I've thought the 8700 non X would be the sweet spot for an iMac. Performance is close to the 8700X but it's a 65 watt chip.
 

EugW

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Jun 18, 2017
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If I were buying a new 8th/9th gen in 2018, I'd just buy the i5-8400 or i5-8500.

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