Wow, you're right. 512 is still an option on the higher end, but that is really strange. Maybe they're dedicating supply to the Mac Mini?
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Wow, you're right. 512 is still an option on the higher end, but that is really strange. Maybe they're dedicating supply to the Mac Mini?
That is certainly weird and interesting. Only 256 GB option on the low-end, none at all on the mid-level and only 512 GB on the high end.
Not making my decision any easier. I have debated a Mac mini as a stop gap until they update the iMac. But this is throwing it off. With the extended holiday return, I will likely pull the trigger on the Mac mini and then return it if they update it.
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Here is a MacRumors article about it. Have not validated the article myself: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/14/imac-ssd-options-missing/
Update or not, I decided to replace my Late 2012 27” iMac with a new
Mac mini
3.2GHz 6‑core 8th‑generation Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 4.6GHz)
8GB 2666MHz DDR4
1TB SSD storage
Also purchased a 32gb upgrade from Crucial.
And a ViewSonic 32” photo editing display.
Not just the lack of an update, but dealing with the static position of the current iMac display has been doing a number on my neck injury. I miss having a height adjustable display.
Mac mini
3.2GHz 6‑core 8th‑generation Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 4.6GHz)
8GB 2666MHz DDR4
1TB SSD storage
Also purchased a 32gb upgrade from Crucial.
And a ViewSonic 32” photo editing display.
Not just the lack of an update, but dealing with the static position of the current iMac display has been doing a number on my neck injury. I miss having a height adjustable display.
I gave up on using a mobile solution (for the time being) as my primary business computer b/c at the end of the day, reliability is king.
Days b/f the Oct 30 announcement, the fed ex truck dropped off my new 21" iMac (i7/512/16).
Figured it'd be hard to go wrong with a very mature design and a nice configuration to go along with it. I love the damn thing!!!
Days b/f the Oct 30 announcement, the fed ex truck dropped off my new 21" iMac (i7/512/16).
Figured it'd be hard to go wrong with a very mature design and a nice configuration to go along with it. I love the damn thing!!!
They’d better include the 9-th gen Intel processors and skip the 8-th gen which are a year old.
Bet we get the 8th gen processors just as the 9th gen are being released. lol
we will get 8th gen intel with 21" imac, for the 27" i think apple have better plans, and they dont want to give some kind of upcoming display design referee....probably the 27" imac and the Apple display will have some/a lot of similarities
So i guess after March-WWDC 2019 will have the next iMac with 9th gen +Vega30 dGPu
So i guess after March-WWDC 2019 will have the next iMac with 9th gen +Vega30 dGPu
Done waiting. Just ordered a 4.2 i7/8GB RAM/512GB SSD/Radeon Pro 580 27-inch. Was hoping to also get one of the gift cards they're offering, but wouldn't work in the education store. Since that discount was more than $200, I chose to forgo the gift card and I guess I'll pay out of pocket for the AirPods I was planning on buying anyway. 16GB of Corsair RAM is on order with Amazon with the TwelveSouth BackPack.
Good job! Don't worry about noise from the fan noise complainers who don't even have the i7. I've heard my i7's fan twice in seven months, and for only a few seconds. Feed it some more RAM from Crucial or OWC. The machine's a beast -- really flies. Enjoy!
I owned the i7 for a week, and then returned it because of the fan noise.
If you do anything that utilizes the CPU heavily for more than 30 seconds, you'll hear the fan noise.
OTOH, if you've only heard the fan twice in 7 months, perhaps you didn't need the i7 in the first place.
All of the 4.2 GHz i7s showed the same behaviour. There are long threads on the topic here in this forum.
Same behaviour on the PC side too but there it can be mitigated with higher end aftermarket cooling.
Yes, but none in months, and many postings saying that it is not a problem. I understand cooling issues fully, and from my days with PC's that made such a racket I do not need absolute silence to be happy, especially if the machine is working it's tail off.
This can be tested objectively. Do a real software based video encode with an app like Handbrake and make sure the CPU is near maxed out. The fan on the 27” i7 will hit max in under a minute.
None of the 27” i5 iMacs behave this way. With the i5 models, the time to max fan is much, much longer. All of the 27” i7 iMacs tested behaved this way. This translates to a real world difference since it means you can do software encodes of short videos on the i5 and never hear the fan, whereas with the i7 you’ll often hear the fan. But as mentioned, if you’re not hearing the fan with the i7, there is a good chance you never needed the i7 in the first place.
To be clear, this won’t damage the i7. It will work fine. However, it is a consideration. If you need the extra performance for music composition or need the 20% shorter video encode times, and if you don’t mind the fan noise, then the i7 is appropriate. If you don’t like fan noise though, then think twice about the i7.
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You keep repeating this to anyone who'll listen but it won't make it true.
Like you, and around the same time, I returned my noisy 7700K iMac to get a quieter one. Although it wasn't the CPU I changed, it was the 3TB fusion drive. I got one with an SSD and have never had any problem with fan noise since. The other thing you never seem to mention is room temperatures. Perhaps these tests that influenced your thinking were in warmer environments ? Typically mine is in the low 20s C. We had a long hot summer though and I still didn't hear my fans.
Nearly a year and a half since release, these iMacs are still the fastest single thread macs in the lineup (despite what you said about the new mini). All things considered, I think they are probably the best bang for buck macs at the moment, unless you have a heavily threaded workload, in which case the pro options are better.
Didn’t the Geekbench results conclusively show the 2018 i7 mini is the fastest single core?
I’m sure it did at one point though, there were articles referencing the result - did no one benchmark the top spec iMac until 15 months after it was released?
Geekbench shows average scores in their Mac Benchmarks chart. My guess is that early results were influenced by hackintosh builds (I saw quite a few) but as more real Macmini owners ran the test the averages came down.
In your post you never once mentioned what you are doing in your workload.
Like I have said earlier in this thread and in other threads, it's pretty easy to test this. Just do so heavy software video encodes. You can note the temperature of the room as well. BTW, in many of my previous posts (in other threads) I have mentioned room temps as well, with my personal tests IIRC around 22C.
Pretty much anyone who has actually done this test with an i7 iMac has noted that the fan ramps up very quickly, regardless of room temperature. (I don't think anyone has done this in a 15C room though.
)Now, this may be irrelevant to you because you don't do those types of workloads in the first place, but as I've suggested earlier, if this type of workload doesn't matter to you, then perhaps an i7 is unnecessary for you in the first place too.
As for the Mac mini and single-core performance, from a theoretical point of view, the i7-7700K and i7-8700 should be in the same ballpark. However, my posts have been mainly about multi-core performance, and that's where fan noise concerns may be the most significant. These chips almost never run pure single-core though.
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I doubt that this will be anything close to what I've dealt with having my 2011 MacBook Pro - just YouTube could make the fans run at full speed, let alone a video encoding job in HandBrake. I don't do a ton of heavy lifting on a daily basis, but I'm hoping to do more photo/video editing from my DSLR and Mavic Pro, which I've been doing on my 2016 MBP mostly. I mostly got the i7/580 for future proofing so I can (hopefully) get at least the 7 years I got with my MBP out of this iMac. I was close to getting a Fusion Drive to save a bit, but I have a NAS and 1TB USB-C SSD for mass file storage (hoping future Mojave releases bring SMB back to how it was in High Sierra since I have some minor problems). I have zero faith in Seagate drives (what I'd more than likely get with a FD) so to avoid the possibility of that repair and the heat that drive will produce like mreg376 said, I went full SSD for internal storage.
If the fan at max is really bothering you then disable the turbo boost - on mine it results in only a 5% clock drop (still over 4GHz) and still get hyperthreading so minimal performance hit. And the fan runs a lot slower on full load continuously. Free tools can do this. It’s really not a dealbreaker to get the performance (outside of doubling up to the iMP).