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When will the iMac be refreshed?

  • September/October Event

  • November/December Event

  • March/April Event

  • WWDC 2019


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PeterJP

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I can sorta see why people dont like the T2 but it has measurable advantages like performance penalty-less FileVault, and Touch ID
And better audio (T2 does processing), and hardware camera lock on MacBooks when you close them (they could do something similar when the iMac sleeps). T2 is great in principle. But I like the possibility to upgrade the SSD in non-T2 machines (though it's not easy at all on the iMacs).
 

xgman

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And better audio (T2 does processing), and hardware camera lock on MacBooks when you close them (they could do something similar when the iMac sleeps). T2 is great in principle. But I like the possibility to upgrade the SSD in non-T2 machines (though it's not easy at all on the iMacs).

I can tell you that T2 has been nothing but trouble on my imac pro and i have disabled as much of it as possible to minimize issues. I'm not alone on this. Long threads about macbooks, imac pros etc on this topic for over a year.
 

EugW

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And better audio (T2 does processing), and hardware camera lock on MacBooks when you close them (they could do something similar when the iMac sleeps). T2 is great in principle. But I like the possibility to upgrade the SSD in non-T2 machines (though it's not easy at all on the iMacs).
My main concern is the added instability T2 has been shown to exhibit. BridgeOS isn't quite there yet. For most people it's not a big deal, but it has reared its ugly head time and again esp for those with third party external peripherals. Yes, some of the blame can be laid with them, but I'd rather just have a functioning machine than have to worry about the blame game.
 
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fokmik

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In my exp t2 chip is the best in everything it’s doing but audio,apple should disable audio to be taken care by the t2 and put it on the intels cpu again
I get better results in audio now than last year thanks to the all the updates of firmware but still can’t handle under full load
 

EugW

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In my exp t2 chip is the best in everything it’s doing but audio,apple should disable audio to be taken care by the t2 and put it on the intels cpu again
I get better results in audio now than last year thanks to the all the updates of firmware but still can’t handle under full load
What happens?
 

XNorth

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Feb 23, 2018
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There’s no option for the i7 9th-gen. It’s just over a $100 difference between the i7 and i9, but the i9 drawing more power could result in more heat and throttling.
 

Dave245

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When watching content on the 5K iMac, is there a difference than none Retina? In other words if I buy one of these iMacs, during some down time I watch Netflix, YouTube videos and so on will I notice a difference with the 5K screen vs my current old late 2012 iMac?
 

redheeler

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Oct 17, 2014
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When watching content on the 5K iMac, is there a difference than none Retina? In other words if I buy one of these iMacs, during some down time I watch Netflix, YouTube videos and so on will I notice a difference with the 5K screen vs my current old late 2012 iMac?
It depends on the content. For HD content, there isn't much difference. For 4K content, there is.
 

bwsteg

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Sep 25, 2012
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What are the chances we see an all new design later this year to by mid next year? Can someone give me a logical opinion with no bias or emotion.
 

redheeler

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I’m just going off of what Mark Gurman has had to say, of course he could be wrong. Would I like a redesign, yes of course, I loved the last one which is why I brought the 2012 iMac when it came out with the thinner design.

I’m not so sure about WWDC, don’t forget they already have the Mac Pro to announce.
It appears Gurman was correct, meaning we get a refresh that should've come out alongside the 2018 Mac mini, and no plausible explanation for the delay.

I'll admit, I probably should've seen it coming. Not exactly atypical when it comes to Apple's treatment of the Mac nowadays...
 
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fathergll

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When watching content on the 5K iMac, is there a difference than none Retina? In other words if I buy one of these iMacs, during some down time I watch Netflix, YouTube videos and so on will I notice a difference with the 5K screen vs my current old late 2012 iMac?


Yes but not in a good way. Netflix can only display 1080p because of the lack of DRM needed for 4k. I'd rather watch Netflix content on a 2012 iMac.
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imac is updated as of today morning.

New processor, memory and video card options


Thanks for the update.
 

Glmnet1

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What are the chances we see an all new design later this year to by mid next year? Can someone give me a logical opinion with no bias or emotion.
Everything is possible but considering it took more than a year to release this spec update, I doubt we will see an all new design this year.
 

EugW

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Yes but not in a good way. Netflix can only display 1080p because of the lack of DRM needed for 4k. I'd rather watch Netflix content on a 2012 iMac.
Why? There is no advantage to watching Netflix on a 2012 vs. a 2019.
 

peterh988

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Going to order one at the weekend, waited long enough to replace my 2009 MP

What ram do I need? I usually just go with what crucial recommend, but its not on the system yet, and the new iMac lists 2666MHz DDR4 memory
 

redheeler

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Why? There is no advantage to watching Netflix on a 2012 vs. a 2019.
1080p content does look a bit more crisp when displayed 1:1 on a 1080p display, at least to me. The 27" 2012 is higher than 1080p anyway though, and upscaling softens the picture a bit but no detail is lost and it's not a big concern.
 
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Internet Enzyme

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When watching content on the 5K iMac, is there a difference than none Retina? In other words if I buy one of these iMacs, during some down time I watch Netflix, YouTube videos and so on will I notice a difference with the 5K screen vs my current old late 2012 iMac?

The higher resolution display cannot add detail to any raster content—things like videos, images, they are the resolution that they are, and the display simply presents the content. If you playback a 1920 x 1080 video fullscreen on a 5120 x 2880 display it will simply be upscaled to fit the canvas, and this is usually done pretty well, given that scaling from 1080p to 1440p is not a simple nearest neighbor upscale—the canvas is 1.33 times as large in each direction. When i play back a 1080p video i usually do it on my secondary 3840 x 2160 display because that is an even 2x integer multiple of 1080p in each dimension. But that is some nervosa stuff—the reality is that the iMac 5k display will playback lower res content at fullscreen in a way that’s indistinguishable from the original—the display upscale tech is good enough. One thing is that when you watch 1080p content on that large of a screen from that close up it just naturally looks bad because the pixel density is low, because it’s only 1080p. But that’s to be expected. Don’t expect any extra detail in existing content, and don’t expect any less either.
 
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