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All iPads No evolution or revolution for iPadOS 18
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iPad OS was such a dud and disappointment. A few Home Screen and control center hand me downs from iOS, and minimal improvements to individual apps. This is basically a nothing burger and insulting to the people that shelled out big bucks for M4.
Anyways my position here holds true for another year. The best iPad is the cheapest one you can get…full stop. I won’t care about iPad until Apple shows even a little effort. Will continue using my iPad Pro 10.5 as a multimedia/browsing device with no need/desire to upgrade.
Anyways my position here holds true for another year. The best iPad is the cheapest one you can get…full stop. I won’t care about iPad until Apple shows even a little effort. Will continue using my iPad Pro 10.5 as a multimedia/browsing device with no need/desire to upgrade.
i think people are talking about ipad pro, not low cost ipads.
For all things that you describe (side position to mac, handwriting, etc), m4 chip or high cost of $2000 are not necessary. I think it was apple that caused this confusion to people by putting laptop cpu and raising ipad price above macbook air.
my person opinion is that apple needs to put separate ipados - current ipados for ipad mini and normal ipads and ipados pro for ipad pro.
I feel like there was so much hype with iPadOS 18. I'm still not convinced Apple Intelligence is a game changer. If so, what is it that will change my life for the better? It doesn't seem like everything will be processed on-device. It's a shame that cloud-processed AI features won't be available on non-M processors. This feels like an arbitrary decision on Apple's part.
So we all know the M4 iPads are all faster and have better specs than the M1 iPads. However, are there any AI features or anything else in iPadOS 18 that will be exclusive to the M4? If not, I feel like going for a cheap M1/M2 iPad may be the better decision.
I think you made the right decision. All that hype and talk about rushing the M4 iPads out because the next big OS upgrade would unless the potential of the iPad turned out to be false.
Unless I'm missing something, all of the iPadOS 18's features, including AI, will be available on the M1.
What an utter waste of hardware if that's what it's being built for
M4 iPads have great hardware, but if the software won't fully take advantage of it, then what's the point? OLED is nice, but I rather save the money.
Faster performance and more future proofing? It’s the reason I went with the iPhone 15 Pro over the standard iPhone 15 (A17 instead of A16). When it’s a device you don’t replace yearly or every other year, getting a processor that’ll better meet your needs over the course of ownership is always a good idea.
Last year, people were speculating that it'll be this year. Nothing changed. I wouldn't put much hope into Apple addressing the core issues with the iPad. It seems like Apple cares more about AI than fundamentally addressing the iPad's deficiencies. They don't have their priority straight. I'm shocked that Tim Cook would let things get to this point. It makes me wonder if he is even using an iPad.
I upgrade my iPhone every year and clearly, some features won't be available for iPhone 14s. It's not the same with iPads. I might as well wait and get next year's flagship iPad Pro for more futureproofing.
I get where you’re coming from, but see this explanation as implying that the iPad is something less than a MacBook Air. It is not. It is a complementary/peer (not subordinate) product that performs overlapping functionality, but is optimized for a different subset of use cases than those that the MacBook Air is optimized for. More CPU has historically been a positive for all computing devices, but that perspective seems to be discarded when it comes to the iPad Pro — i.e., no one complains that the A17 Pro is overkill in the iPhone, but there’s objection when essentially that same chip (M3 and now M4) is placed in the iPad Pro — why? Finally, the iPad Pro price reflects production costs (and markup) not relative value to the Air .. and I suspect that the cost to manufacture the iPad Pro (material and process) is probably comparable to the Air. Of course were all speculating here, but I appreciate your thinking.
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The iPad is a large screen device, similar to a laptop. No one expects a more powerful OS on a phone, due to the constraints of the small screen. But an iPad has a large screen and is perfectly capable of laptop style use.
iPadOS is supposed to be iPadOS not macOS. The problem isn’t that iPad has too much power limited by OS. The problem is that people complaining about it don’t have use case for iPad Pro. It’s a niche product for specific use cases, for those it’s awesome and macOS would just ruin it. Please stop trying to make it a Mac just because you like the form factor but really you need a Mac for your use. Just get a Mac.
I agree. But the iPad is a tablet and is optimized for tablet use cases while sharing some overlapping laptop use cases. The MBA/MBP on the other hand are optimized for certain laptop use cases while sharing some common use cases with the iPad. I get why some want the iPad to flex further into the traditional laptop use cases, but is there a slippery slope? When will everyone be satisfied that the iPad is sufficiently laptop capable? I suspect never because the iPad is fundamentally a tablet and risks becoming less so while it tries to become more laptop-like. I for one am happy with Apple‘s device specialization and complementary strategy vs hybrid devices — as that means I have the best laptop and the best tablet with no compromises with either. 🙏🏽
It’s also worth noting that iPadOS runs on everything from the previous gen iPad base model to the M4 based iPad Pro, and that Apple rarely heavily customizes their OSes for just one device (even if that device is the flagship for the OS). For the iPad Pro to really shine in some people’s eyes, it would need an iPadProOS (which is only slightly more likely than macOS on an iPad).
But I still don’t really understand people’s complaints about the Files app. I feel like it works just as well as, if not better than, Android’s equivalent file manager (which, despite some design wonkiness, is generally sufficient to Sherlock most of the third party file managers on Android). And I feel like it works pretty similarly to the Finder, you just have to wrap your head around the differences in file hierarchy and in file management philosophy. Can someone explain once and for all the deficiencies in the Files app?
But I still don’t really understand people’s complaints about the Files app. I feel like it works just as well as, if not better than, Android’s equivalent file manager (which, despite some design wonkiness, is generally sufficient to Sherlock most of the third party file managers on Android). And I feel like it works pretty similarly to the Finder, you just have to wrap your head around the differences in file hierarchy and in file management philosophy. Can someone explain once and for all the deficiencies in the Files app?
worth noting that apple themselves are advertising ipad as a computer replacement. so i don't know why some responses here are shocked that other posters want the same thing. We're sold a bill of goods, we're holding apple to that standard.
now computer replacement != have to be a computer. But it should be self-sufficient. The iPad today is not a self-sufficient device that can do the basics. I want to emphasize, the gap between ipadOS today and "putting macOS on iPad" is extremely wide. There are a lot of broken things on iPad OS tdoay that has nothing to do with macOS.
although, i guess to be fair, apple stopped those "what's a computer" ads.
now computer replacement != have to be a computer. But it should be self-sufficient. The iPad today is not a self-sufficient device that can do the basics. I want to emphasize, the gap between ipadOS today and "putting macOS on iPad" is extremely wide. There are a lot of broken things on iPad OS tdoay that has nothing to do with macOS.
although, i guess to be fair, apple stopped those "what's a computer" ads.
People: sets themselves up to be disappointed
people: gets disappointed. Upset at apple for not announcing features they never said they would
people…if ipad doesn’t do what you want, a MacBook is a great little machine. I’m seeing posts where people say they are literally returning their new iPads because this WWDC didn’t give them -insert feature- Consumers are a weird breed
people: gets disappointed. Upset at apple for not announcing features they never said they would
people…if ipad doesn’t do what you want, a MacBook is a great little machine. I’m seeing posts where people say they are literally returning their new iPads because this WWDC didn’t give them -insert feature- Consumers are a weird breed
welcome to forums where people speak their mind and are allowed to complain, not adhere to some strict set of purchasing principles.
By strict do you mean buying a device for things nobody ever said it would do? Gonna go buy a car and return it because it’s not a boat
I think you missed the point of the Apple “What’s a Computer?” ad. The point of that ad is not that the iPad is a laptop or laptop replacement, but that computers come in different forms and that the iPad is a tablet computer. Nowhere in that ad does Apple suggest that computer = Mac, Mac functionality or macOS — that’s all projection from those who wish that were the case.
What point were you making with this again? It IS a computer. It can be a lot of user’s main computer aside from their iphone. Hell, my daughter is using one for her college courses. Nothing they said was wrong.
I’ve seen this same cringey crap for more than a decade in these forums. People buy an ipad over and over again just to complain about things they know it doesn’t do when they should have just bought a regular laptop all along and buying one again spending $2k on it on some “idea” that maybe a single WWDC keynote will completely change the device is just a silly idea. We have enough history. We have enough information to know what this device is and isn’t.
Can you identify just one frame or comment in that ad where the iPad is shown doing “Mac” stuff? Everything shown in that ad is something that an iPad does — and nothing that the “iPad needs to be more functional, more Mac-like, or run macOS“ tribe are demanding is even hinted at in that ad. This defense for blaming Apple for iPad as Mac fixation is hollow.