Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

No more nvidia chips in Apple's computer line

TechGod said:
That point about the competition not being the over priced Titan X is a very valid point. I guess I kinda got carried away since seeing a flagship card from AMD was great because as consumers we need AMD. We really do. Without them, Intel and Nvidea can and will totally try to screw us over.

Here's hoping to Arctic Islands getting to market first and Zen reaching Skylake performance. Cause we need the competition and it looks like AMD is gonna bring it.
Click to expand...

Yes, I agree 100%. If AMD hadn't been hot on their heels, Nvidia may never have sold 980Ti. But they did, and it kills Fury in every metric so far.

But we as consumers are saving $350 per card as a result of AMD. So I hope they remain alive. But CEOs getting up on stage and lying while posting BS performance charts doesn't help them.

Fiji can be a good card for the artificially constrained nMP since they can't really use full desktop cards and are instead doing Mobil versions.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tuxon86 and TechGod
MacVidCards said:
Yes, I agree 100%. If AMD hadn't been hot on their heels, Nvidia may never have sold 980Ti. But they did, and it kills Fury in every metric so far.

But we as consumers are saving $350 per card as a result of AMD. So I hope they remain alive. But CEOs getting up on stage and lying while posting BS performance charts doesn't help them.

Fiji can be a good card for the artificially constrained nMP since they can't really use full desktop cards and are instead doing Mobil versions.
Click to expand...
And again, that Fury Nano seems to be the perfect card for the nMP. Which btw is a stupid and horrible design for a PRO workstation class machine but I digress...
 
Asgorath said:
Right, because massive parallelism is a feature that only AMD provides in their GPUs?
Click to expand...
No, it's not a feature of only AMD, but Nvidia chips are relying on the driver software and are optimized for single queue performance of pre-DirectX12.

Asgorath said:
If you are using one CL kernel, then you throw it at the entire GPU and let it crunch the numbers for a while, and both AMD and NVIDIA do very well with a workload like that.
Click to expand...
AFAIK, that's simply not correct. You can have more than one CL kernel running at the same time.
AFAIK, you can limit the processor (because OpenCL runs on your CPU, too) resources, but you don't have to.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: koyoot
koyoot said:
People said: no way Apple will release a watch.
Click to expand...

iOS has already established itself as gaming platform without much of Apple's effort. I can see Apple adding more console like functionality into future Apple TV versions but they probably won't bother releasing another standalone console like device.
 
I am in the market for a new powerhouse on / under my desk. Working with an iMac 2011 27" now. I consider to build an PC and switch to Windows 10. I wish there was an Apple machine with an i7 6 core, tons of SSD and an option for an Nvidia GTX980ti. Bummer :(

that said, there is an big gap between the iMac and Mac Pro. Has Apple lost his sight on content creators? I think so.
 
Roykor said:
I am in the market for a new powerhouse on / under my desk. Working with an iMac 2011 27" now. I consider to build an PC and switch to Windows 10. I wish there was an Apple machine with an i7 6 core, tons of SSD and an option for an Nvidia GTX980ti. Bummer :(

that said, there is an big gap between the iMac and Mac Pro. Has Apple lost his sight on content creators? I think so.
Click to expand...
Actually, I hear more people complaining that there is so little difference between the Imac and the MP6,1.

But yes, Apple has lost sight of the pro market.
 
AidenShaw said:
Actually, I hear more people complaining that there is so little difference between the Imac and the MP6,1.

But yes, Apple has lost sight of the pro market.
Click to expand...
My fear is Apple will use this as an excuse to exit the pro market completely.

Their reasoning will be, "No one wants this kind of Mac anymore" instead of, "We built the wrong kind of Mac for the job."
 
  • Like
Reactions: AidenShaw
AidenShaw said:
With the MP6,1 Apple has already exited the pro market.
Click to expand...

Totally agree. Look at the offerings from Dell and HP. Now those are pro machines that can be configured and reconfigured for what ever type of pro a user is. The tower Mac Pro could cover some of that market but still not enough to really matter anymore.
 
MacVidCards said:
Yes, I agree 100%. If AMD hadn't been hot on their heels, Nvidia may never have sold 980Ti. But they did, and it kills Fury in every metric so far.

But we as consumers are saving $350 per card as a result of AMD. So I hope they remain alive. But CEOs getting up on stage and lying while posting BS performance charts doesn't help them.

Fiji can be a good card for the artificially constrained nMP since they can't really use full desktop cards and are instead doing Mobil versions.
Click to expand...
Hmm..I thought you didn't like AMD...more preferred for NVIDA.
 
flat five said:
likewise, where in the classic mac pro manual does it describe how to swap a cpu.. or a power supply unit?
i don't think it does-- so are we to consider those parts not to be user serviceable? or are they in fact user serviceable?
Click to expand...

Not in the small manual that came with the 5,1.

But when I needed to dig down into my 5,1 I had no problem finding the attached PDF (part of a much larger PDF, "macpro_mid2010.pdf," dated 2010-08-31 ). It tells me precisely how to remove the cMP power supply.

To be fair, it doesn't say anything about disassembling the PS itself. The expectation appears to be that you're going to swap in a new one.

I can't remember where I located it (a couple of years ago), but it was easy. No secret agent crap. Not hidden at all.

Maybe there's an equivalent nMP manual out there somewhere. Could be, but I doubt it.
 

Attachments

  • mac pro power supply.pdf
    3.7 MB · Views: 242
monokakata said:
Not in the small manual that came with the 5,1.

But when I needed to dig down into my 5,1 I had no problem finding the attached PDF (part of a much larger PDF, "macpro_mid2010.pdf," dated 2010-08-31 ). It tells me precisely how to remove the cMP power supply.

To be fair, it doesn't say anything about disassembling the PS itself. The expectation appears to be that you're going to swap in a new one.

I can't remember where I located it (a couple of years ago), but it was easy. No secret agent crap. Not hidden at all.

Maybe there's an equivalent nMP manual out there somewhere. Could be, but I doubt it.
Click to expand...
that's from the technician guide

Mac Pro (Mid 2010) - tim.id.au

most/all of them are on the inter webs.. take a test, become certified, and you can download 2013 (and buy parts (and sell parts)) from the exchange..


http://gsx.apple.com

(though maybe with some searching, you'll find 2013 mp out there already.. but there's definitely one in existence.)
 
Last edited:
flat five said:
that's from the technician guide

Mac Pro (Mid 2010) - tim.id.au

most/all of them are on the inter webs.. take a test, become certified, and you can download 2013 (and buy parts (and sell parts)) from the exchange..


http://gsx.apple.com

(though maybe with some searching, you'll find 2013 mp out there already)
Click to expand...

Yep. I know that's the technician's guide. Says so on the front page.

My point is although the information isn't in the slim manual that came with the cMP, nevertheless the technician's guide is trivially easy to locate and tells anybody everything he or she needs to know about replacing the cMP's power supply. It's extremely straightforward, even down to the tools needed.

You were asserting, though not in these exact words, that Apple didn't provide this sort of cMP information to consumers. Apple didn't toss the technician's guide in the box, but they didn't hide it, either. Anybody who could use Google could find it.

It had nothing to do with getting trained as a technician or anything of the sort. It has to do with whether your statement was on or off the mark. I think it was off the mark.
 
monokakata said:
Yep. I know that's the technician's guide. Says so on the front page.

My point is although the information isn't in the slim manual that came with the cMP, nevertheless the technician's guide is trivially easy to locate and tells anybody everything he or she needs to know about replacing the cMP's power supply. It's extremely straightforward, even down to the tools needed.

You were asserting, though not in these exact words, that Apple didn't provide this sort of cMP information to consumers. Apple didn't toss the technician's guide in the box, but they didn't hide it, either. Anybody who could use Google could find it.

It had nothing to do with getting trained as a technician or anything of the sort. It has to do with whether your statement was on or off the mark. I think it was off the mark.
Click to expand...
huh? a certified technician(s) downloaded those things from apple's portal and re-uploaded them.
there's no apple link to download those from (publicly) unless you have an authorized acct.

edit-
anyways.. if you're needing to replace a part in a mac, i think you'd be better off using youtube/owc/ifixit guides.. they use better/more understandable language and pictures.. which is a lot easier for people to grasp if they aren't digging around inside computers day in/out.
 
AidenShaw said:
With the MP6,1 Apple has already exited the pro market.
Click to expand...
What does "Pro" mean to you?
Pro as in:
- One has to tinker with the computer and has to be able to exchange about every part.
or
- Heck, I just want to get my work done, without tinkering the computer the whole day
 
  • Like
Reactions: linuxcooldude
scottsjack said:
Totally agree. Look at the offerings from Dell and HP. Now those are pro machines that can be configured and reconfigured for what ever type of pro a user is. The tower Mac Pro could cover some of that market but still not enough to really matter anymore.
Click to expand...
Stop complaining and please buy one Dell or HP, then.
 
JoSch said:
What does "Pro" mean to you?
Pro as in:
- One has to tinker with the computer and has to be able to exchange about every part.
or
- Heck, I just want to get my work done, without tinkering the computer the whole day
or
- sell ancient workstation hardware for ridiculous 'Pro' price
Click to expand...

I've added another possibility :p
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back