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That is the US store. This is a thread about UK/European orders. In the UK, where I am, that option is not available.

Thank you.

Thread is also suppose to be about Mac Pros and this is a non Mac Pro issue.
(as I pointed out which you snipped, this isn't specific to any Mac or any single Apple products. )

This is likely wrapped up in either some Double-Irish-with-Belgium-twist tax hocus pocus and/or some EU creadit-card/shipping regulations. It has little if not nothing to do with the Mac Pro , its production, or its shipping.


Thank you too.
 
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You can try to justify it any way you like, but the reality is that delays like these are not typical.

For brand new Apple product categories they are quite typical. iPhone shipped worldwide in first couple of months? Not. iPad? Not.

Apple much as Apple is tap dancing that this is just a continuation of the old Mac Pro, it really isn't It has substantial overlap but the targeted demographics and functionality are substantively different.


It suggests to me that something may have gone wrong somewhere. Some of their earlier Mac Pros were available in their stores within a week of them being released.

Earlier Mac Pros were not effectively new products ( intial 2006 transition but exceptional in the CPU transition aspects). Those earlier Mac Pros were not "introduced and hinted at 4 different times ( "something in 2013" , "sneak peak", "soft launch for Fall" , "OK finally taking orders". Earlier Mac Pros were not preceded by 18 months of Osborne effect. That isn't a justification. That is what was done.

The notion that the demand was highly transparent and easily gauged in the muddled roll out is highly unmotivated.

This Mac Pro's roll out was not even remotely close to a typical Apple incremental product upgrade roll out. If in a highly abnormal situation why expecting typical outcomes?


A wait of up to (potentially) almost three months for an ordered product is a very long time when Apple's competitors can ship a workstation in 24 hours. Yes, I am sure it is very good and for many worth the wait. But no, one should not have to wait.

It isn't 3 months. There is a rolling about two month window that isn't getting smaller. It is also not the same time windows for everyone.

As for competitors, First, they don't ship Macs. OS X isn't licensed to run on those machines. Second, those competitors have been shipping Xeon E5, generally competing systems (migrate to off OS X ) for 14-18 months before Apple shipped the Mac Pro. The "forward" 24 hours are diddly poo compare to the vastly longer period where Apple had basically nothing but 2009-2010 era hardware to sell. Folks extremely pressed about getting what they want as fast as possible are largely already gone. What is left over is a high fraction of folks willing to wait.


Apple cut off EU sales in Feb 2013. If willing to wait 10 months... another 2 isn't that much more. ( that cut off is yet another example of how current context is atypical. )

IMHO Apple should have "backfilled" the demand in EU first and then widened the launch. At least for a couple of weeks. Demand project data for EU had to include a substantial amount of hand waving because they had not sold anything there in a long time. Fill in some of that data hole first and that adjust the just-in-time ordering queue. Frankly they did it completely backwards of that. Primarily lauched where they have more, but also limited data, and then let the part they knew least about clog up the order-to-production system. There is highly like gobs of noise in looking at what the intial waves are ordering because the contexts are so different.
 
Go GOLD

I think delivery dates will soon disappear for EU...well actually only for GB. Any country that earns a Gold medal in the Olympics gets placed on the priority list.
 
I think delivery dates will soon disappear for EU...well actually only for GB. Any country that earns a Gold medal in the Olympics gets placed on the priority list.

Naaaah...these are the winter olympics, not the real ones.
 
For brand new Apple product categories they are quite typical. iPhone shipped worldwide in first couple of months? Not. iPad? Not.

Apple much as Apple is tap dancing that this is just a continuation of the old Mac Pro, it really isn't It has substantial overlap but the targeted demographics and functionality are substantively different.




Earlier Mac Pros were not effectively new products ( intial 2006 transition but exceptional in the CPU transition aspects). Those earlier Mac Pros were not "introduced and hinted at 4 different times ( "something in 2013" , "sneak peak", "soft launch for Fall" , "OK finally taking orders". Earlier Mac Pros were not preceded by 18 months of Osborne effect. That isn't a justification. That is what was done.

The notion that the demand was highly transparent and easily gauged in the muddled roll out is highly unmotivated.

This Mac Pro's roll out was not even remotely close to a typical Apple incremental product upgrade roll out. If in a highly abnormal situation why expecting typical outcomes?




It isn't 3 months. There is a rolling about two month window that isn't getting smaller. It is also not the same time windows for everyone.

As for competitors, First, they don't ship Macs. OS X isn't licensed to run on those machines. Second, those competitors have been shipping Xeon E5, generally competing systems (migrate to off OS X ) for 14-18 months before Apple shipped the Mac Pro. The "forward" 24 hours are diddly poo compare to the vastly longer period where Apple had basically nothing but 2009-2010 era hardware to sell. Folks extremely pressed about getting what they want as fast as possible are largely already gone. What is left over is a high fraction of folks willing to wait.


Apple cut off EU sales in Feb 2013. If willing to wait 10 months... another 2 isn't that much more. ( that cut off is yet another example of how current context is atypical. )

IMHO Apple should have "backfilled" the demand in EU first and then widened the launch. At least for a couple of weeks. Demand project data for EU had to include a substantial amount of hand waving because they had not sold anything there in a long time. Fill in some of that data hole first and that adjust the just-in-time ordering queue. Frankly they did it completely backwards of that. Primarily lauched where they have more, but also limited data, and then let the part they knew least about clog up the order-to-production system. There is highly like gobs of noise in looking at what the intial waves are ordering because the contexts are so different.

I have a reply written for you. I will dispatch that reply two months from now.
 
Finally got my "Preparing for Shipment" note today. Ordered on the 20th of December initially but had to figure out some aspects with Apple Business which I guess postponed the actual order date to be more in the range of January 7th. Let's see when this baby arrives :D
 
As for competitors, First, they don't ship Macs. OS X isn't licensed to run on those machines. Second, those competitors have been shipping Xeon E5, generally competing systems (migrate to off OS X ) for 14-18 months before Apple shipped the Mac Pro. The "forward" 24 hours are diddly poo compare to the vastly longer period where Apple had basically nothing but 2009-2010 era hardware to sell. Folks extremely pressed about getting what they want as fast as possible are largely already gone. What is left over is a high fraction of folks willing to wait.

Lots of assumptions there. If I were wanting a workstation for my business I wouldn't be prepared to wait 2 months, not when the same apps run on a Windows machine. If that meant 2 months lost productivity I'd be switching to Windows, it's really that simple.
 
Lots of assumptions there. If I were wanting a workstation for my business I wouldn't be prepared to wait 2 months, not when the same apps run on a Windows machine. If that meant 2 months lost productivity I'd be switching to Windows, it's really that simple.

It's not that dramatic....more like 2 months of using what you were already using....then getting to switch to the nMP.
 
My nMP has just been despatched (ordered 24th Dec UK) but delivery is still 6 days away. Was hoping for quicker than that - but I shouldn't complain :)

UPDATE: Delivery has now changed to 3 days.
 
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Dang you Euros :D
8C 1TB 700 ordered the 20th, and seeing machines of same spec being shipped to Europe ordered after the 20th....

Beginning to wonder if Apple is determining priority based on which country has the most Olympic Medals :eek:
 
Dang you Euros :D
8C 1TB 700 ordered the 20th, and seeing machines of same spec being shipped to Europe ordered after the 20th....

Beginning to wonder if Apple is determining priority based on which country has the most Olympic Medals :eek:

I'm in the same place as you, but my spec is 6core 512GB D500 12GB Ram.

Crucial 32G ram and Caldigit T3 just arrive today.

I'm still deciding what Display to use. I thinking I'm gonna buy a Apple Thunderbolt 27".
 
I'm in the same place as you, but my spec is 6core 512GB D500 12GB Ram.

Crucial 32G ram and Caldigit T3 just arrive today.

I'm still deciding what Display to use. I thinking I'm gonna buy a Apple Thunderbolt 27".

Yea I'm interested in the T3 too.

For a monitor I recommend a NEC MultiSync PA271 27 inch over the apple! Or the new LG 34 inch widescreen. Sorry off topic

I ordered 6th jan so I guess I could still have a while. :)
 
Received shipping information / tracking numbers today.

History:

Model: nMP 6c/1TB/D700/32GB
Order placed: 1/15/2014
PayPal charge: 2/7/2014
PFS date: 2/11/2014
Shipping notification: 2/12/2014
ETA: 2/21/2014

I hope it will take less than 9 days from the Czech Republic to Germany :D

Received UPS Tracking# today. New ETA 2/20/2014 - one day early :)
 
It's not that dramatic....more like 2 months of using what you were already using....then getting to switch to the nMP.


I think it's going to depend on individual circumstances. Suppose you had an old creaking machine and you were just about to upgrade. Then Apple pulls the Mac Pros from the European stores and there is no Mac Pro for almost a year. When the nMP comes out you might order immediately. But a lot of people are going to take some time to consider the new offering, it's performance characteristics and any compatability issues. So let's say six or seven weeks for the owners reports to come in and that evaluation, plus another couple of months for Apple to dispatch the machine.

If you combine all those delays - and that very much is a worst-case scenario - your upgrade has been postponed by quite some time.
 
Just got my sweet shipping notice to Cologne, Germany. Mac Pro + AppleCare being merged :eek: and coming from Prague. Estimated delivery 3/3/2014. Let's see if this will need to be corrected. I hope so :cool:
 
Well here we are, 19th Feb, 2 months later and still the soul crushing message of "Processing Items: Dispatched: February"

There are only 9 days left in Feb. I fear the worst! Goblins have eaten my order and the order status page crashed and locked up on 20th Dec!

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Hex, D700
 
Well here we are, 19th Feb, 2 months later and still the soul crushing message of "Processing Items: Dispatched: February"

There are only 9 days left in Feb. I fear the worst! Goblins have eaten my order and the order status page crashed and locked up on 20th Dec!

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Hex, D700

Sorry to hear that. I ordered 8 core, 64GB, 1TB, D700 (UK) on 24th and it is arriving this Friday. You should have got your order way before me. Not sure how these orders are being scheduled - must be related to component stock.
 
I live in Ireland ordered mine on the 20th december, 4 core d500's 12GB 256GB, and no movement yet my credit card was not even charged yet. I did not recieved any emails from Apple. Status of the Order is Processing Items, I am wondering will I still get it in Feburary.
 
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