Note 7 on blast

[C DM]

Its not planned obsolescence as I can get the battery replaced for a nominal charge.Its also not necessary to pay Samsung for it as a third party reputed repair shop like ubreakifix can also do it.

Pure Android by nature does not lag.Members on here ridicule it mainly because its cool to post memes and jokes about Android lagging.Google Nexus never lags.TouchWiz may show stutters at times but unlike Apple they dont increase with every software update.They decrease.For instance,in iOS 10,scrolling down 2 days worth of notifications in NC has lately started stuttering which never happened in iOS 9 while all lags of iOS 9 whilst reduced are still there compared to 8.4.1 where they were absent


Right. Its not like Apple has a history of class action law suits like Touch Disease,Error 53,intentionally slowing down software,planned obsolscence law suits or anything

And there's confirmation of what I mentioned. It all just comes together.

 

[Radon87000]

And there's confirmation of what I mentioned. It all just comes together.

Translation:I don't have a counter so I will resort to a smartass one liner

 

[C DM]

Translation:I don't have a counter so I will resort to a smartass one liner

That certainly describes your reply rather well.

 

[I7guy]

Its not planned obsolescence as I can get the battery replaced for a nominal charge.Its also not necessary to pay Samsung for it as a third party reputed repair shop like ubreakifix can also do it.

Pure Android by nature does not lag.Members on here ridicule it mainly because its cool to post memes and jokes about Android lagging.Google Nexus never lags.TouchWiz may show stutters at times but unlike Apple they dont increase with every software update.They decrease.For instance,in iOS 10,scrolling down 2 days worth of notifications in NC has lately started stuttering which never happened in iOS 9 while all lags of iOS 9 whilst reduced are still there compared to 8.4.1 where they were absent


Right. Its not like Apple has a history of class action law suits like Touch Disease,Error 53,intentionally slowing down software,planned obsolscence law suits or anything

Got it. Moving the goal posts to suit the situation, deflections etc. Now we're comparing annoyances to blowing up in someone's face. That's called hyperbole. All of the elements of great post: moving goal posts, deflections and hyperbole.

 

[Radon87000]

Got it. Moving the goal posts to suit the situation, deflections etc. Now we're comparing annoyances to blowing up in someone's face. That's called hyperbole. All of the elements of great post: moving goal posts, deflections and hyperbole.

I was talking about non removable batteries in general as Savor was stating Samsung not following LG on batteries is planned obsolescence.I was not talking about the Note 7 which obviously is a manufacturing flaw and needs a replacement by Samsung.Non Removable batteries are not planned obsolescence.On the other hand Touch Disease definitely is.I am selling off my iPhone 6 next month when I am sure there are no gate issues with the new iPhone.Some poor chap is getting a phone with an inbuilt timer.Oh well

 

[I7guy]

I was talking about non removable batteries in general as Savor was stating Samsung not following LG on batteries is planned obsolescence.I was not talking about the Note 7 which obviously is a manufacturing flaw and needs a replacement by Samsung.Non Removable batteries are not planned obsolescence.On the other hand Touch Disease definitely is.I am selling off my iPhone 6 next month when I am sure there are no gate issues with the new iPhone.Some poor chap is getting a phone with an inbuilt timer.Oh well

Got it. IT seems you are saying you apply different standards for different companies. But when other forum member apply your standards.

 

[Radon87000]

Got it. IT seems you are saying you apply different standards for different companies. But when other forum member apply your standards.

Not really.I made a simple point that non removable batteries are not planned obsolescence,which is a point both you and CDM have yet to counter.Not surprised thogh

 

[Vegastouch]

Yeah it was Brooklyn! Dunno where I got Japan, I don't even think they sell many Samsung phone there.



Oh, well... that's actually much worse. Nothing costs a foreign company more than injuring americans and nothing costs any company more than injuring kids. I'm not kidding or trolling when I suggest Samsung walks away from the Smartphone table. They had a good run, and almost came close to giving apple a run for its money... but the good times have ended and Samsung has nothing but lots of profit to lose and little, if any, to gain from staying in a business they clearly are terrible at. If Samsung is smart, which it isn't, they will walk away from the table with their best-in-class ASP (A whole 30-40% of Apple's! That's amazing by android vendor standards) and feel good about all the dumb american consumers, like myself, they duped into buying their phones when they could've been enjoying a sweet washer/dryer or air conditioning unit.


It's gonna be a hard, hard winter on Seoul this year.

Thats the first ive heard of a Samsung Core battery going bad. All they have to do is change the battery manufacturer or just can the bad batches. This can easily be fixed. They dont need to get out of the phone business lol.

Apple has had phones catch fire before. Should they have got out of the phone business? Should Toyota stop making cars from all their recalls? Honda, Nissan?



CMon man.

 

[C DM]

Not really.I made a simple point that non removable batteries are not planned obsolescence,which is a point both you and CDM have yet to counter.Not surprised thogh

You counter it yourself with your own logic of what "planned obsolescence" is supposedly about.

 

[Radon87000]

You counter it yourself with your own logic of what "planned obsolescence" is supposedly about.

Can you elucidate your point further?

 

[macfacts]

Does anybody else feel like the coverage on these pocket bombs aren't getting enough coverage, ...

Can you name a few news organizations or websites that have not reported the story?

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Can you name a few news organizations or websites that have not reported the story?

Agreed. I'm no Samsung fan, but the media coverage has been just about everywhere. It's being covered fairly.

 

[touchstoned]

Samsung will recover from this.Toyota killed people at one point and people still buy their cars

This is a good point.


You're right, they will likely come back. People are stupid, and android fans appear to be especially forgiving in terms of getting ripped off by this company or that. Ostensibly they regard losing $200 on a phone that is worthless in 9 months is somehow a better deal than losing $600 on a phone that works for 6 years and can then be sold for $100... because $200 is less than $600. Never mind that they end up going through a handset every 9-12 months and waste $1000 by the time 4-5 years pass all the while the iPhone buyer can resell his phone for $400 or turn it in to apple and get a free contract. Savings indeed.

Samsung should be skewered for this but hey let's not kick a company when it's down. Instead, let's all afford them the same absurd concern and forgiveness we offered auto companies.



Let's remember to ignore that driving a car itself is an inherently dangerous and kinetic task which often results in death regardless of the safety of the car... and that cellphones were (up till the note 7) never considered to cause death, ever.


I'm seriously amazed you went to the car analogy. There should be some kind of "godwin's law" for car analogies, they are almost always terrible.

 

[Klyster]

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This is a good point.


You're right, they will likely come back. People are stupid, and android fans appear to be especially forgiving in terms of getting ripped off by this company or that. Ostensibly they regard losing $200 on a phone that is worthless in 9 months is somehow a better deal than losing $600 on a phone that works for 6 years and can then be sold for $100... because $200 is less than $600. Never mind that they end up going through a handset every 9-12 months and waste $1000 by the time 4-5 years pass all the while the iPhone buyer can resell his phone for $400 or turn it in to apple and get a free contract. Savings indeed.

Samsung should be skewered for this but hey let's not kick a company when it's down. Instead, let's all afford them the same absurd concern and forgiveness we offered auto companies.



Let's remember to ignore that driving a car itself is an inherently dangerous and kinetic task which often results in death regardless of the safety of the car... and that cellphones were (up till the note 7) never considered to cause death, ever.


I'm seriously amazed you went to the car analogy. There should be some kind of "godwin's law" for car analogies, they are almost always terrible.

Unless you take the Takata recall into consideration, then the analogy is flipped as a defective airbag can potentially kill all occupants in the car and go on to kill more and there's more cars than Note 7's out there with dodgy Takata airbags, and from more than one company.


But y'know, we're talking about Samsung here so let's make car analogies comparable to Godwin law which doesn't actually make sense, but sensibility isn't a strong point of these discussions so......

 

[Vegastouch]

This is a good point.


You're right, they will likely come back. People are stupid, and android fans appear to be especially forgiving in terms of getting ripped off by this company or that. Ostensibly they regard losing $200 on a phone that is worthless in 9 months is somehow a better deal than losing $600 on a phone that works for 6 years and can then be sold for $100... because $200 is less than $600. Never mind that they end up going through a handset every 9-12 months and waste $1000 by the time 4-5 years pass all the while the iPhone buyer can resell his phone for $400 or turn it in to apple and get a free contract. Savings indeed.

Samsung should be skewered for this but hey let's not kick a company when it's down. Instead, let's all afford them the same absurd concern and forgiveness we offered auto companies.



Let's remember to ignore that driving a car itself is an inherently dangerous and kinetic task which often results in death regardless of the safety of the car... and that cellphones were (up till the note 7) never considered to cause death, ever.


I'm seriously amazed you went to the car analogy. There should be some kind of "godwin's law" for car analogies, they are almost always terrible.

Hmmm, lol, ...well, there are a lot of pics out there of iPhones that caught on fire and you are still buying them, so what does that make you?
I can literally post these all day, but hey, dont let facts get in the way of your arguement about "forgiving" people.

 

[C DM]

Hmmm, lol, ...well, there are a lot of pics out there of iPhones that caught on fire and you are still buying them, so what does that make you?
I can literally post these all day, but hey, dont let facts get in the way of your arguement about "forgiving" people.

A rare battery combustion usually linked to some sort of battery damage brought on by the device owner or something like the use of a bad charger or some power issues when charging is certainly not even in the same league as a manufacturer defect that can cause batteries combust just through regular use. The fact that people still try to make some point with that kind of apples to oranges comparison is, well, just silly.

 

[Radon87000]

This is a good point.


You're right, they will likely come back. People are stupid, and android fans appear to be especially forgiving in terms of getting ripped off by this company or that. Ostensibly they regard losing $200 on a phone that is worthless in 9 months is somehow a better deal than losing $600 on a phone that works for 6 years and can then be sold for $100... because $200 is less than $600. Never mind that they end up going through a handset every 9-12 months and waste $1000 by the time 4-5 years pass all the while the iPhone buyer can resell his phone for $400 or turn it in to apple and get a free contract. Savings indeed.

Samsung should be skewered for this but hey let's not kick a company when it's down. Instead, let's all afford them the same absurd concern and forgiveness we offered auto companies.



Let's remember to ignore that driving a car itself is an inherently dangerous and kinetic task which often results in death regardless of the safety of the car... and that cellphones were (up till the note 7) never considered to cause death, ever.


I'm seriously amazed you went to the car analogy. There should be some kind of "godwin's law" for car analogies, they are almost always terrible.

Samsung did not kill anyone.Toyota did.They will survive.The recall was done within days of the issue and I commend them for it.

 

[Vegastouch]

A rare battery combustion usually linked to some sort of battery damage brought on by the device owner or something like the use of a bad charger or some power issues when charging is certainly not even in the same league as a manufacturer defect that can cause batteries combust just through regular use. The fact that people still try to make some point with that kind of apples to oranges comparison is, well, just silly.

So you are assuming. Like I said, I can post those all day. Even burnt up car seats, legs, etc. The things still caught on fire. I know, I know.....Apple can do no wrong. That's why they have been ordered to pay 14 billion for not paying taxes in Ireland.

 

[I7guy]

So you are assuming. Like I said, I can post those all day. Even burnt up car seats, legs, etc. The things still caught on fire. I know, I know.....Apple can do no wrong. That's why they have been ordered to pay 14 billion for not paying taxes in other countries.

So now back taxes are in the same league as burning batteries? Got it.

 

[Vegastouch]

Why not? Ignoring iPhones that caught on fire seems ok.. I mean there have been
Less than 100 phones that caught fire out of 2 million and they quickly took charge of it. It sucks for those who got burned but it was pretty fast.
LIke I said, there are pics of People burned by iPhones. But let's not talk about that.

Just shows what really matters most to some here. Which is that Apple stays number one....lol. how silly is that?

 

[C DM]

So you are assuming. Like I said, I can post those all day. Even burnt up car seats, legs, etc. The things still caught on fire. I know, I know.....Apple can do no wrong. That's why they have been ordered to pay 14 billion for not paying taxes in Ireland.

And yet again none of that is from a known manufacturer issue that is specifically linked to batteries and ina specific model of a device that causes the batteries to combust under normal use. We are still at apples and oranges.

 

[Hanzu Lao]

So you are assuming. Like I said, I can post those all day. Even burnt up car seats, legs, etc. The things still caught on fire. I know, I know.....Apple can do no wrong. That's why they have been ordered to pay 14 billion for not paying taxes in Ireland.

Apple can and do wrong, but your lack of simple logic given the facts is worrisome.

 

[ceva321]

Does anybody else feel like the coverage on these pocket bombs aren't getting enough coverage, I mean if this was apple this story would be huge not just oh the iPhone blew up so apple recalled the entire line. Think about for a minute I think Samsung is getting off to easy

Simple reason, these stories are made up by unethical people trying to cash in.....

 

[ceva321]

Short that *

To the US Citizen Samsung fans

By the way, not to alarm you.... but, as Americans you should support an American company (Apple) over a foreign defense-contracting conglomerate entity (Samsung) in a right-wing vassal republic in perpetual war with its closest neighbor and relatives for 60 years. Where is your sense of patriotism? Or taste, for that matter? I guess it can be said that by being a Samsung fan, you're basically just a fan of iPhones... but you prefer knockoffs. That's been Samsung's entire smartphone business plan (Step 1: copy Apple, Step 2:??, Step 3: Profit). It works pretty well, look at where "innovators" in android like HTC end up.

You're joking right? Apple phones made in China, Apple withholding taxes, Chinese workers committing suicide because of working conditions assembling IPhones?

 

[ceva321]

Samsung had acknowledged the issue early. This was basically two weeks of release until the recall. It was almost like they ratted themselves out before the media caught on. Had they acknowledged nothing and pretended there were no issues except minor issues, then I can understand the media putting them on full blast.

Does it matter anyway what the media says? The real voice matters from us. Seems like the most beautiful phone of 2016 (yes, still better than a black/jet black iPhone 7/7+) has now become a running joke. Reputation ruined. Media doesn't need to do anything to make it worse.

I just came back from a phone store 30 minutes ago. Here in Baguio City, Philippines, nomore Note7 is selling. Recalled. Damaged has been done and the one who initiated it in the first place was Samsung. Note7's reputation is forever broken and no way to recover out of this. Samsung is focusing to release S8 sooner rather than later to get rid of this current stigma.

Longshot chance for Samsung to reach their Note7 sales goal. They threw a pie in their face before the media had a say in it. Tough luck. Great phone and best phone design of the year only for its reputation to be tarnished by this recall. What more do you want Samsung to do in this situation when they are already pointing the finger at themselves? Buy you a cookie?

Samsung can recover from this. The Note7 can't.

Lol I am using and love my Note7, never crossed my mind to replace it with another phone. Can't wait for the explosive Note8