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I wouldn't take much stock in that. The last one went over 350 days between cycles, if I remember correctly.

why would you recomend buying this if there is faster gpu and cpu upgrades aroung the horizon. Penryn and 8600m ring a bell???
 
why would you recomend buying this if there is faster gpu and cpu upgrades aroung the horizon. Penryn and 8600m ring a bell???

I agree. For me, it's not about being worried about another model making mine old in a couple of weeks time (just speculation), but it's about knowing that mine isn't going to get replaced.

So that's why I'm waiting, and I'll wait as long as it takes. (Even though my money's jumping at me to go to Apple).
 
why would you recomend buying this if there is faster gpu and cpu upgrades aroung the horizon. Penryn and 8600m ring a bell???

Depends on what you mean by 'around the horizon.'

If it will be 3 months from now... big deal, there is ALWAYS an update 3 months away. If it is 3 days from now... ok. It would be dumb to buy now.

The problem is WE DON'T KNOW! And until someone can post some real evidence or data to support it one way or another we will probably continue to talk ourselves in circles.

I just wish someone had some insider information or some definitive proof that the update was iminent.
 
Reason to buy a 2.8 iMac

I thought I was all set to buy the new MacPro and then I saw this article by MacWorld that compares the new 8 Core MacPro to a host of other Macs, including the 2.8 iMac. The article is here:

http://www.macworld.com/article/131538/2008/01/macprobench.html?t=205

I was STUNNED to see that the 2.8 iMac was able to keep up with the 8 Core MacPro. They said it was because of the 500 Gig hard drive in the iMac is so fast and the 320 gig drive in the 8 Core MacPro is so slow. This got me to thinking and I looked around at other tests at Barefeats and found the same kind of numbers, so if people are looking at a MacPro, this machine is a really close compromise.

I've been waiting as well and was hoping for an update at MacWorld and didn't get it. I hate buying the top-of-the-line model this deep in the cycle but my girlfriend needs a new machine badly and she's taking my white iMac.

Speaking of memory, is Crucial better than OWC?

Thanks,
Mark
 
...I wanted to wait for Macworld '07 for the update everyone was sure would come. It didn't. So I thought...well, I can wait until March or April. It will come by then. It didn't. I didn't end up getting an iMac until after they were announced in August.

Here is the other side of that: I was very lucky to buy a white 2.16Ghz iMac just days after the new aluminum Macs became available. I was waiting around too and when the new model came out my reaction was "I can't use a that new low-end LCD panel." The old Panel as as good as the ACD and I cared a lot more about the built-in monitor than a CPU speed bump. I was really lucky because the store had their last "old" iMac steeply discounted, $500 off.

So that's the other side of waiting, maybe you will not want the new machine and have to kick yourself becuse yo could have had the better machine 6 months before.

Apple does not do this often (the new Nano was the only other recent example) but if you are serious about photography and image editing those glossy screens are just not up to the task. They do make for good media players and that's how most people use their computer
 
Speaking of memory, is Crucial better than OWC?

If it's better, it's only marginally so. They're both equally good options.

As for the 2.8 iMac...it's a blazing machine. The video card isn't great, so the Mac Pro will blow it away for tasks that require a good video card. But yeah, it's a great machine.
 
This is obsurd. The iMac was only redesigned in August 2007. They won't be redesigning for a couple of years at least yet. (Have you followed their update track record?) The white iMac was around from the first G5 iMac and stuck til August 2007. The Macbook Pro has had the same design for around 5 years minimum.

By the way, I've been keeping up with them for a long time. I was saying maybe a redesign. I could care less about redesign, I love it the way it is now. I'm more concerned about what's inside.
 
My plan is to buy up now because there is no telling what will happen.
The penryn difference will be only marginal and probably barely noticeable.
The design will remain the same for quite sometime.
I ordered 2.4 24" last night and am waiting in anticipation...
I expect this thing to last me at least two years, I will put $50 bucks aside a fortnight for the next few years and replace it with whatever is good at that time. So on and so forth.
 
Here is the other side of that: I was very lucky to buy a white 2.16Ghz iMac just days after the new aluminum Macs became available. I was waiting around too and when the new model came out my reaction was "I can't use a that new low-end LCD panel." The old Panel as as good as the ACD and I cared a lot more about the built-in monitor than a CPU speed bump. I was really lucky because the store had their last "old" iMac steeply discounted, $500 off.

So that's the other side of waiting, maybe you will not want the new machine and have to kick yourself becuse yo could have had the better machine 6 months before.

Apple does not do this often (the new Nano was the only other recent example) but if you are serious about photography and image editing those glossy screens are just not up to the task. They do make for good media players and that's how most people use their computer

I actually love the glossy screens because they are clearer to see, the pictures look sharper, and they're just more 'modern' I guess. One of the reasons I sold my new MBP (an insurance replacement) was because they sent me the one with a Matte screen and I want the Glossy screen :)
 
By the way, I've been keeping up with them for a long time. I was saying maybe a redesign. I could care less about redesign, I love it the way it is now. I'm more concerned about what's inside.

Ok, Sorry I must've misunderstood.

I too only care about the insides and absolutely love the design. I didn't think I would like the design when I first saw it at the Keynote, but it's gorgeous and so professional looking :)
 
No more waiting!

As with the rest of us, I waited for MWSF to hear of any iMac upgrades. There were none, so it's now time to move on. I received my Crucial 4GB memory kit via FedEx yesterday (aside: I have no idea if Crucial is better than OWC, but Crucial's free shipping is VERY fast). I'll be getting my G-Tech external drive today. Tomorrow morning I go down to the Apple Store and get the 24" iMac.
As previously posted, I don't think Apple will be upgrading significantly soon. Sure, maybe the Penryn chip, but will I be able to notice the difference? Now the Nehalem chip will be worth waiting for, as its architecture will be quite different.
To MARK COMBS: I followed your link to the MacWorld article, read it, and did not come to the same conclusion as you. Maybe I missed something, but the iMac 2.8 is still quite slower than the new Mac Pro, which is as it should be.
So wait if you want to, don't wait if you don't want to, or follow the rumors and never get anything done. The iMac as it is now is one nice machine. We must all think that or we wouldn't be here reading this. Good luck!
Morod
 
I'd just like to add that after ordering my iMac last night I decided this morning I would have liked a bigger HDD.
Rang Apple this morning to sort it out.....WOW, I work in IT and deal with most of the big (and small) names but have never dealt with Apple until today. They handled my situation fantastically, everyone I spoke to was polite, knowledgeable and efficient. Calls were returned when they said they would be and nothing was too much trouble....
If all IT companies acted the same way it would make my life so much easier (*shudders at the thought of another conversation with Symantec!!!*)

Well done Apple.....now just gotta wait for the goods, I'm sure I will not be dissapointed.

:)
 
Last night I received a PM from someone who linked me to an article about a possible delay in Penryn shipments, which may or may not affect the forthcoming iMac update.

Check it out for yourself: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/15/i...penryn-delays

As for me... I am just about ready to give in. I mean, the processor may or may not be delayed, and we may or may not be receiving updates anyway within the next 2 months.

If I had any indication whatsoever that an update was possibly coming in the next month or two, I would hold off... but it seems like all there is, is a little bit of hope. I don't know...
 
Here is the other side of that: I was very lucky to buy a white 2.16Ghz iMac just days after the new aluminum Macs became available. I was waiting around too and when the new model came out my reaction was "I can't use a that new low-end LCD panel." The old Panel as as good as the ACD and I cared a lot more about the built-in monitor than a CPU speed bump. I was really lucky because the store had their last "old" iMac steeply discounted, $500 off.

So that's the other side of waiting, maybe you will not want the new machine and have to kick yourself becuse yo could have had the better machine 6 months before.

Very good point.
 
I would love an update to the Graphics card, that's all i'd want to change, looking at some of the comparisons on barefeats makes me sad. The new GFX card seems to be so rubbish.
 
I too am about ready to give in, but I just can't. I know that as soon as I buy an iMac, they'll update it

Someone tell me if this is wrong...

As I understand it, if you order a new iMac, it gets shipped to your house at which point you are charged for the item. From the date of delivery you have 14 days to get the item back to Apple for a full refund (assuming the box is not open)

Therefor, if an update comes sometime between when you order the mac, you could simply send it back (paying for shipping) and if it is unopened, Apple will give you a full refund.

I guess this would atleast protect me for the 2 weeks it would likely take to get to my house!
 
Someone tell me if this is wrong...

As I understand it, if you order a new iMac, it gets shipped to your house at which point you are charged for the item. From the date of delivery you have 14 days to get the item back to Apple for a full refund (assuming the box is not open)

Therefor, if an update comes sometime between when you order the mac, you could simply send it back (paying for shipping) and if it is unopened, Apple will give you a full refund.

I guess this would atleast protect me for the 2 weeks it would likely take to get to my house!

Not sure how that works with the HE store. Anyone know? Also, if I couldn't open the box for 2 weeks, there'd be no point in me buying it really.
 
I did read in another thread on this site that Apple announcements are made on Tuesdays. Perhaps you could give yourself a deadline of 1,2 or 3 Tuesdays from now and if nothing happens, go ahead and buy what you want.
Morod
 
Not sure how that works with the HE store. Anyone know? Also, if I couldn't open the box for 2 weeks, there'd be no point in me buying it really.

2 weeks meaning while the product is in transit. If the update happened within those two weeks, you could just send it back immediately.
 
2 weeks meaning while the product is in transit. If the update happened within those two weeks, you could just send it back immediately.

See I just don't see the logic in that, because then I'd have to wait for Apple to accept it back, then wait until they pay money back onto my bank card, and it's just soooo much hassle. It's just so much simpler to wait for an update :)
 
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