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dsampley

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Well after working with AT&T for over an hour and resending the activation profile again, SMS is not working with NumberSync. Just when I determined this, I got disconnected from chat. I will take a break and maybe try to contact AT&T later.
 

theshoehorn

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I chatted AT&T, said I was on PB2 and activated Number Sync. I asked to have the activation profile resent, the rep had me turn off the phone, sent it, turned the phone back on an all is fixed now! Took me 15 minutes.
 

dsampley

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Jul 2, 2007
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Glad it is working for you. I have had AT&T remove Numbersync from my account and will wait for the next beta to try it again.
 
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solodogg

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I chatted AT&T, said I was on PB2 and activated Number Sync. I asked to have the activation profile resent, the rep had me turn off the phone, sent it, turned the phone back on an all is fixed now! Took me 15 minutes.

something tells me it won't stay working. i've tried this twice now, and can send and receive SMS messages for a short time before losing the capability again.
 

Chambersaj

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Nov 4, 2015
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I am going to second that. No matter what I do with AT&T, it works for a bit then stops. Hopefully Beta 3 has everything ironed out. At this point I think it is pretty much a joint issue between Apple and AT&T. They need to work out what the activation profiles should or shouldn't change.
 

clubtech

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Jan 2, 2009
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Anybody with an LTE iPad and numbersync enabled checked if calls also go through when the iPad is not on wifi? I thought that numbersync also works on LTE (at least that's what the AT&T press release stated).
 

dsampley

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when I had Numbersync on, the iPad had to be on wifi to make or receive calls.
 

Chambersaj

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Nov 4, 2015
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There is no technical limitations for the LTE iPads to do numbersync on cellular. It is up to the OS developer, Apple in this case, to implement the features of numbersync on the device. I think as the beta progresses and the service gets more fleshed out it will happen. The technical details of how it works is that the devices initiate a IPSEC VPN connection back to AT&T to receive services, and that will definitely work over cellular connections. Hopefully, they also figure out a way to transfer calls. So I can pickup on my laptop and transfer to my phone as I am leaving.
 

clubtech

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It's interesting to note that they went with branding the feature as "numbersync" for AT&T and not just "Wifi calling". When AT&T announced numbersync they stated it should be utilizing their VOLTE technology to make calls over cellular. That's how they have it working on the watches they are about to release. Since apple branded the feature as numbersync I was hoping we will see this working over LTE as well. As the poster above says we are still in beta so hopefully LTE support is still coming.
 

jpsmith76

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Jun 4, 2014
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I have AT&T NumberSync working between my iPhone 6 and iPad Mini 3, but never saw the supposed popup on my MacBook Pro FaceTime to upgrade the WiFi Calling, and in the FaceTime Preferences still only see "Calls from iPhone....Use you iPhone cellular connection to make and receive calls when your iPhone is nearby and on Wi-Fi."

The computer is selected in the Calls on Other Devices on the iPhone.

Does anyone know how to completely remove a device from this list, so i can try and force it to pop up the upgrade WiFi calling on the Mac?
 

ohio.emt

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Jul 18, 2008
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I have a question under the setting allow call on other devices I have my iPad, and Mac listed but it shows another iPhone. It seems to be my old iPhone, which was removed from my iCloud account and support profile. Anyone know why it's still showing on that device list?
 

Chambersaj

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Nov 4, 2015
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I have a question under the setting allow call on other devices I have my iPad, and Mac listed but it shows another iPhone. It seems to be my old iPhone, which was removed from my iCloud account and support profile. Anyone know why it's still showing on that device list?

I have that issue currently, I have had it before and it seemed to go away on its own. It seems like it's sticking around a bit longer now. I was thinking about calling Apple support about it. See if they can clear them out.
 

gwhizkids

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Jun 21, 2013
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Based on this implementation - which I have to admit is pretty slick from the sound of it - I now see why AT&T did not provision the 5s with wifi calling. I'm up for a new phone in April, so I'll get it then.
 

Chambersaj

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Nov 4, 2015
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Based on this implementation - which I have to admit is pretty slick from the sound of it - I now see why AT&T did not provision the 5s with wifi calling. I'm up for a new phone in April, so I'll get it then.

AT&T said no to WiFi calling on the 5S because it doesn't support VoLTE. Call handoff between cellular and WiFi doesn't work without VoLTE, so they decided it would be a bad experience. VoLTE is a specialized VoIP implementation. The odd thing is other than a DSP to handle the audio encoding, if you need to hand that off to specialized hardware because the general purpose CPU isn't capable of doing the encoding, there should have never been anything that stopped VoLTE from happening on any iPhone with LTE. Apple just needed to include the necessary software in the phone applications. Apple may have decided against it due to the older LTE devices not having dedicated DSPs for VoLTE or some other performance reason. Who knows?
 

gwhizkids

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Jun 21, 2013
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With numbersync, everyone's gonna all be

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maugustine

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Nov 17, 2014
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it won't stay working. that usually allows the first message to go through, then any message reply from the one you sent. Try having someone else send you an SMS, and you probably won't receive it.

I had 3 different people trying to text me all ay long, and even tried sending myself a message from google voice. Switching LTE off on my phone allowed the first message I sent to go through, any other after that point would come back as not delivered, but they did go out. The problem was that nobody could text me until I texted them first. Removing numbersync from the line was the only thing that corrected it.

Texting seems to be back to working for me today. Anyone else?
 

Chambersaj

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Nov 4, 2015
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Texting seems to be back to working for me today. Anyone else?
Just tried it. It seems to be working if I'm on LTE. It stops when my phone goes to wifi calling mode. So it seems to be getting slowly fixed. I'll leave it in LTE voice and data mode and see what happens. Previously, I've had it working on and off.
 

dsampley

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Jul 2, 2007
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Yeah, just saw that myself. Hope they fix the bugs before releasing in the next beta.
 

gsmornot

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NumberSync appears to be gone in beta 3. They must be ironing out the bugs in it.
I posted in the other thread but thought I would add here. I still have my settings in iPad but nothing in iPhone or the Watch app. I never turned the feature off. I can still make/receive calls with my iPad and watch using my cell number while my cell is in Airplane mode. So...the base feature is still working but I'm still having an issue with regular SMS. I cannot receive group messages which come as something other that iMessage which by the way work fine. 99% of my messaging is iMessage so this is not a big deal. I have asked my wife to forward group messages if she gets them since she is on the same messages until this is ironed out.
 
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