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bripab007

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Numbersync still breaks SMS for me on PB4, however, turning off wifi calling on only my iPad causes SMS to fix itself again. Turning on wifi calling on OS X does not break SMS messages. Oh, wonder if I should try turning off text message forwarding on iPad to see if that works.
 

gsmornot

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Slightly OT, but I was wondering today - does anyone know how voicemails will be handled once this is ready for prime time? I was thinking of visual voicemails on the iPhone in particular. I have an old iPhone that I keep around the house and use kind of like an iPod touch, wifi only. Since it has the standard phone app, I'm curious whether it'll receive voicemails alongside my main iPhone. Has anyone seen this yet? I'll definitely test it once Numbersync is officially launched.
I'm guessing you will not have the option to use this feature on your old phone. First, Numbersync is not meant to make two phones ring and the software knows its a phone versus an iPad or watch. Second, this will require the latest iOS which may not be available to your old phone depending on how old it is.
 

Nickash28

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Anyone tried NumberSync in the new beta? Wondering if it now or will ever support LTE. Worked on Wi-Fi but not with iPad connected solely thru LTE connection.
 

gsmornot

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Anyone tried NumberSync in the new beta? Wondering if it now or will ever support LTE. Worked on Wi-Fi but not with iPad connected solely thru LTE connection.
I still have the feature on my account, no related settings on my iPhone and it won't send/receive SMS without failing. Just after the update to beta 4 it worked every time I tested but by the end of the day it was failing again. The service is not ready for the general public yet but when it is, it will be nice. I will keep mine setup for testing.

As for the iPad on LTE, if I recall it says this feature is meant for use over WiFi. The iPad LTE connection has an assigned phone number, right? (had wifi iPads for a while) If a number is assigned to the LTE connection, the service will not apply just like it will not apply to a second phone.
 

Nickash28

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I still have the feature on my account, no related settings on my iPhone and it won't send/receive SMS without failing. Just after the update to beta 4 it worked every time I tested but by the end of the day it was failing again. The service is not ready for the general public yet but when it is, it will be nice. I will keep mine setup for testing.

As for the iPad on LTE, if I recall it says this feature is meant for use over WiFi. The iPad LTE connection has an assigned phone number, right? (had wifi iPads for a while) If a number is assigned to the LTE connection, the service will not apply just like it will not apply to a second phone.


Gotcha. So maybe that's the issue currently. Att press release originally stated NumberSync was exclusively for LTE devices. This sounds like Apple is implementing only a part of the service here until Att opens the technology fully in the future. Thanks
 

gsmornot

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Any updates from anyone on this feature and its effect on SMS messages? I still have the feature on and still miss incoming group messages which are MMS. SMS makes it sometimes in either direction but generally unreliable. iMessage is fine. I could have this feature turned off but I have been holding out to see if anything happens on the network side to make this better. No change yet and no beta release updates that include the feature again. I was hoping for a beta this week to see if anything has been included. If not, I may just let the feature go for now and turn it on later.
 

bripab007

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Any updates from anyone on this feature and its effect on SMS messages? I still have the feature on and still miss incoming group messages which are MMS. SMS makes it sometimes in either direction but generally unreliable. iMessage is fine. I could have this feature turned off but I have been holding out to see if anything happens on the network side to make this better. No change yet and no beta release updates that include the feature again. I was hoping for a beta this week to see if anything has been included. If not, I may just let the feature go for now and turn it on later.

I'm still seeing broken functionality here as well. I disabled it for the time being, but it's still an "active feature" on my AT&T account. Interestingly, in FaceTime for Mac OS X they separate the buttons for "making calls when iPhone is nearby on same network" and "enable Wi-Fi calling," so even though I dsiabled AT&T wi-fi calling on my phone, I'm still able to make/take iPhone calls on my Mac using bluetooth/ad-hoc wi-fi/continuity functionality. On the iPad, however, when you enable making phone calls when iPhone is nearby on same network, it automatically enables AT&T wi-fi calling, as you then see in the description "make phone calls when iPhone is *not* nearby on same network"...and I turning that on again breaks the SMS so I've left it off for the moment.
 

gsmornot

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9.2 final is out with Numbersync included. Anyone willing to do the setup and testing? I plan to but will be a little bit before I get to it.
 

gsmornot

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Go into Settings - About. It prompted me for a carrier update, then I had it available!
Thanks. I was going to mention that. If you activate the feature and complete testing, post the results please.
 

Nickash28

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Might be too early to tell but it appears as though the SMS message not being sent/delivered bug has been fixed.

I set it up. Seems to be working. The fact that Apple has set this up as Wi-Fi calling prevents me from making calls from my LTE iPad when not on Wi-Fi. AT&T indicated that would be the case though so I guess the change is on their end.
 

dsampley

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Disappointed that sms still requires the phone to be online. was hoping sms would work like calls where phone could be off completely.
 

gsmornot

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I set it up. Seems to be working. The fact that Apple has set this up as Wi-Fi calling prevents me from making calls from my LTE iPad when not on Wi-Fi. AT&T indicated that would be the case though so I guess the change is on their end.
The LTE iPad has a phone number assigned for the data service so for now it will not use the LTE line for this feature. Same as a second phone.

Testing seems to be working for me so far as well. Good thing, I like this feature but was getting in trouble for missing messages a couple weeks ago.

Disappointed that sms still requires the phone to be online. was hoping sms would work like calls where phone could be off completely.
When I talked with support about this feature not working correctly with SMS they mentioned it was for calling only but hoped to enable SMS in the future. I asked if SMS could be removed and calling left on, they said not at the time and that the issue appeared to be that both features were turned on by the iPhone but only one worked correctly. This was the reason for SMS failure while Wi-Fi calling through other devices was fine. I guess today's carrier update stopped the SMS configuration on the network but setup the calling. At least the phone now functions correctly or seems too. Hope the SMS feature comes in the future though.
 
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egeek84

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So just to clarify, i own an iphone 6 plus right now with numbersync activated, say I buy and activate an iphone 6s and activate numbersync on that device, would my main telephone number overwrite that one?
 

solodogg

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so far so good with testing on my end also. I have been able to receive and send sms messages just like normal after having numbersync activated now for well over an hour. Previously, it would start failing after 5 minutes, so this is definitely a good sign :)
 

Chambersaj

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It is working on my end now. AT&T must have stopped trying to change the texting around. Hopefully Apple gets around to implementing the texting on their end, too. Then we could get the full numbersync rollout.
 

boston04and07

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Hmm. No matter what I do I'm not able to activate it on my iPad. I was successfully able to activate it on my Mac, but when I tap on "Enable Wifi Calling" on my iPad, the little text entry box to enter in the six-digit PIN appears on my iPhone, but no code itself pops up on the iPad. FWIW I'm running 9.2 b4 on both my iPhone and iPad. Several restarts and logging in/out of FaceTime on the iPad haven't helped.

Edit: also, my iPad is wifi only, no LTE.
 

gsmornot

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So just to clarify, i own an iphone 6 plus right now with numbersync activated, say I buy and activate an iphone 6s and activate numbersync on that device, would my main telephone number overwrite that one?
In your example, are you replacing the 6 plus with the 6S or are you planning to have two devices?

Something I can tell you is this feature is not used on a phone. Its setup using a phone which in the beginning is the only device on the AT&T network associated with your phone number. Once you turn this on you have the ability to add devices and associate them with your number and register them with the network.

So, what happens if you add a second phone to the mix. First, it would have a different number and it would also allow Numbersync services with that phone. Second, your devices will only associate with one iPhone so you would still be connected with your 6 Plus until you broke that association and registered with the 6S instead.

Hmm. No matter what I do I'm not able to activate it on my iPad. I was successfully able to activate it on my Mac, but when I tap on "Enable Wifi Calling" on my iPad, the little text entry box to enter in the six-digit PIN appears on my iPhone, but no code itself pops up on the iPad. FWIW I'm running 9.2 b4 on both my iPhone and iPad. Several restarts and logging in/out of FaceTime on the iPad haven't helped.

Edit: also, my iPad is wifi only, no LTE.
Did you have continuity working before? If so, you may already be setup. It looks on the iPad very similar to the old feature. On the iPhone, look under calls on other devices and see if your iPad is not already listed. Also, put your phone in airplane mode and make a test call using facetime on your iPad.

Otherwise, the code comes from the carrier which may be overwhelmed at the moment but I'm just taking a guess. I do recall having to setup the iPad with an extra step but keep trying. I completed my setup during Beta 2 and left it since then and it has continued to work so details unfortunately are cloudy at the moment.

Update: Testing my iPad, I do not have Numbersync active at the moment. Working on it now.

Update 2: Fixed. I turned off Calls from iPhone on my iPad, I turned off Allow Calls On: iPad in my phone settings. I went to another setting and came back to Facetime on my iPad. I was given an updated menu that said Turn on WiFi Calling. I did, received a code that I entered on my iPhone, and was given a few boxes to verify address on my iPad. Setup complete again and working.
 
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gsmornot

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Having two devices, what happens in that scenario?
The rest of my post was aimed at the idea that you would have two devices. You can only register your iPad or other devices with one phone at a time. You would setup numbersync on each phone then decide what phone number you wanted your devices associated with and link your devices with that phone.
 

imlynxy

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Just logged into Att OLAM and could see there NumberSync available. You cannot remove it from the account, but I assume CS can. Works great, better than on beta.


The only thing I need from Att now is better roaming deals and this is will be #1 provider.


JUST A QUESTION:

I have Canadian ip thru VPN 50 percent of the time on my computer. Are they going to charge me roaming rates for calls via NumberSync?
 
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