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So if it’s normal for many on this forum (me) then how can it not be normal at the same time?

There’s nothing wrong with those even without OCD to treat what they spend hundreds and thousands on with care.

I personally like having a car that’s 2 and a 1/2 years old and still smells new on the inside. If I ever decide on selling it outright, I won’t have any issues. Same goes for my devices.

Just my $0.02 👊😎👍
Because those with an obsessive compulsive disorder on the form are congregating here, so it’s common here on the forum. But for the general public it is not normal. Do you get it now? Or is the disorder eclipsing the rational?

If you like glowing over an inanimate object, then yes, it’s probably a disorder of some sort.

I glow over my children and husband. And WE are all happy and alive. My phone gives me no fulfillment because it has no life.
 
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Anecdotal evidence =/= statistics

You can’t control who drives into you
This is true, however, some states have “no fault” auto insurance. That’s gotta be just lovely. Btw, I totally agree with your statement, I just wanted to point that lovely policy out.
 
I bought a 1tb pro max. I don't use a case. I don't obsess over it, it survives with simply a glass screen protector and apple care+ if I drop it
 
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Holy cow, some people here almost treat their iPhone as if it’s a human being
Or an alternative viewpoint, they treat like it cost a lot of money. Because it cost a lot of money. Thanks to Apple spanking the UK on account of the low £, coupled with an average national average salary only 2/3rds of the average US salary, something like a 512GB iPhone 14 Pro Max would currently cost the average Brit the equivalent of a month's wage (after deducting income taxes). Though that's almost irrelevant because just about everybody here buys new phones on contract.
 
Like everyone else I too have notions in my mind of what is being uncaring, careful/protective and overprotective/obsessively careful. But not everyone I come across seems to understand how relative all these mental notions are.

An absolute point where uncarefulness ends and carefulness begins and where carefulness ends and obsessive carefulness begins can never be determined.

For humans to know something is normal, their minds need to know the meaning of abnormal in the same moment too. Without the meaning of ‘abnormal’ in the same moment together with the meaning of ‘normal’, we wouldn't be able to know something is normal, and vice versa. The same for all polarities.

What does it mean that ‘normal’ and ‘abnormal’ need to exist together in the same moment as thoughts in our minds in order for us to recognize them one at the time? A couple of things. It means that each get their meaning only from the other, and that they only appear separate and two while in fact they are one, which in turn means that normal is just as abnormal as abnormal, and that abnormal is just as normal as normal - it is just a matter of more or less.

Hence, it’s not wrong to believe a certain (lack of) protective behavior towards whatever is abnormal, it is just relative, meaning you’re right from where you are. And so is everyone else.
 
I restore cars as a hobby, so my phone is often under a car with me, being held by a grease-covered hand so I can photograph or video something I’ve disassembled. This week I put an oil pan back on a car and used the phone to refer to the bolt torque pattern while I was beneath the car.
 
Because those with an obsessive compulsive disorder on the form are congregating here, so it’s common here on the forum. But for the general public it is not normal. Do you get it now? Or is the disorder eclipsing the rational?

If you like glowing over an inanimate object, then yes, it’s probably a disorder of some sort.

I glow over my children and husband. And WE are all happy and alive. My phone gives me no fulfillment because it has no life.

Whenever I get to see a post like this, it really brings me a great deal of headaches, nausea and suffocation. It seems to me that by just looking at your post, just wow, which makes me speechless. You come off as an unpleasant irritant particles that floats around in the air here and there that bothers heaps of people around the world. So you have extensive amount of years of studying the mind and the behavior I take ? Oh wait, I would like to take that back please because I can clearly see that you are not even able to understand the joke. The real shrink would've have laughed at that instead of insulting them with your stinky condescension. You know most of those people in this forum have their family members and cherish them also. My advice, go and talk to the shrink about your antisocial behavior. By the way, you are not that smart like you think you were
 
Because those with an obsessive compulsive disorder on the form are congregating here, so it’s common here on the forum. But for the general public it is not normal. Do you get it now? Or is the disorder eclipsing the rational?

If you like glowing over an inanimate object, then yes, it’s probably a disorder of some sort.

I glow over my children and husband. And WE are all happy and alive. My phone gives me no fulfillment because it has no life.
Yep, because putting a case on my phone equals obsessive compulsive disorder.
 
If you like glowing over an inanimate object, then yes, it’s probably a disorder of some sort.

I glow over my children and husband. And WE are all happy and alive. My phone gives me no fulfillment because it has no life.

False equivalence. Both family and products/material goods can bring people joy...just in different ways.
It could easily be argued it's a more meaningful way with actual human connection.
It would be a logical fallacy and erroneous conclusion to believe that it's a disorder to get excited about products
because they aren't a living creature.

Commercials and various ad methods feed off emotions for a reason. Product marketing works and not just on MacRumors forum members.

Apple products bring people joy. I see it every time I go into the Apple Store. I'm sure many of those people don't venture these forums.
 
This 100%. I’m amazed we live in a world where these things are so expensive.
It’s only that price if you’re wanting a Pro model. I have never paid that amount for a phone as the cameras in the standard models these days are pretty damn awesome.

In reality though, from an economic standpoint, you are actually purchasing these devices at a discount which is the result of globalism and cheap overseas labour. If the iPhone was purely designed and manufactured in the USA, you’d be paying close to double.
 
False equivalence. Both family and products/material goods can bring people joy...just in different ways.
It could easily be argued it's a more meaningful way with actual human connection.
It would be a logical fallacy and erroneous conclusion to believe that it's a disorder to get excited about products
because they aren't a living creature.

Commercials and various ad methods feed off emotions for a reason. Product marketing works and not just on MacRumors forum members.

Apple products bring people joy. I see it every time I go into the Apple Store. I'm sure many of those people don't venture these forums.
From my perspective, for me it’s utterly delusional for an inanimate object to bring joy. It’s just an object that is a tool, could be happy with it yes. Conversing with real life is real. Makes me wonder if some here copulate with their phones🥹
 
From my perspective, for me it’s utterly delusional for an inanimate object to bring joy. It’s just an object that is a tool, could be happy with it yes. Conversing with real life is real. Makes me wonder if some here copulate with their phones🥹
Yep, because Ferraris, Lamborghinis and Porsches don’t bring joy to their owners.
 
From my perspective, for me it’s utterly delusional for an inanimate object to bring joy. It’s just an object that is a tool, could be happy with it yes. Conversing with real life is real. Makes me wonder if some here copulate with their phone.
What about art?


What about a water purifier in the third world? A new power plant?


A pair of glasses if you could not afford one before.



The list goes on.



Here is a controversial one - getting an atomic bomb…
 
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Because those with an obsessive compulsive disorder on the form are congregating here, so it’s common here on the forum. But for the general public it is not normal. Do you get it now? Or is the disorder eclipsing the rational?

If you like glowing over an inanimate object, then yes, it’s probably a disorder of some sort.

I glow over my children and husband. And WE are all happy and alive. My phone gives me no fulfillment because it has no life.
That’s cute. If you had any idea what I’ve been through and how much I appreciate life over the materialistic, you’d swallow your words.

I don’t “glow” over objects. I simply don’t take things for granted.

I’m well aware my car, devices and other objects I own do not contain any life other than what is programmed into them. Still doesn’t mean I shouldn’t take care of them if that’s what I feel fit to do.

And my “disorder” doesn’t “eclipse” my rational thinking. I’m very rational. You seem to hold a deep hate for things you don’t understand. That’s okay, us crazies won’t think any less of you.

My family always comes first and is very well taken care of. Luckily for me their normal way of thinking doesn’t “eclipse” their understanding of what I go through.

👊😃👍
 
I’m amazed we live in a world where these things are so expensive.
Why?

With the exception of basic, low-spec machines, Apple computers have routinely run into the thousands from the very beginning. iPhones, iPads, etc are computers that just happen to be mobile.

We don't complain that the average cost of a Mac is well above $1000, but a handheld device which can do a lot of the same stuff as a Mac and is mobile costs too much?

I'm not arguing that an iPhone is a replacement for a computer, but it's a pretty good jack of all trades. There was a time where people were carrying around their above $1000 laptops and no one batted an eye. For a lot of people, the iPhone/iPad has replaced that.

I would argue that the complaints about the iPhone being high-price is because the demand is for the high-end iPhones/iPads. But there are cheaper phones, and I'm not talking about Androids. The iPhone SE line is a good example. Maybe the line is using Apple's older technology, but for $400-600 it's a great deal. And you can always buy an older iPhone model if the price of the bleeding edge device offends.
 
I know I’m in the minority. I‘ve never used any case or screen protector on any of my phones, ever.

I get why thick rubber cases exist, but thin cases don’t have enough material to absorb really big hits that can cause catastrophic damage.

I can understand some people get cases because they like the way the case looks, I usually just get a phone that I the look of to begin with, and not bother with a case.

Screen protectors can prevent scratches on the glass, but your screen protect will accumulate scratches instead. Unless you constantly swap out protectors, I don’t see the point with it.

Its also baffling how screen protectors claim to prevent the glass from shattering after a big drop. That’s like if I told you putting on a jacket can prevent your bones from breaking after falling off a building.
 
It's abnormal to take care of your expensive devices to make sure they're the best quality they can be longterm?This is why, even though I don't use cases, I am careful with my stuff. No setting ~$1000 devices down on dangerous or unstable surfaces. Use designated spots. Be aware where your phone is oriented to and where it is in space relative to you. Put it away in crowds or in places where lots of people are moving around - someone will bump you or trip, or fall into something. It happens. I've seen one person trip on flat ground. Don't use it one-handed. That's asking for trouble if someone knocks in to you. If there's nothing you can do in a certain situation, cage the device with your hands to protect it until you can get it put away safely. Learn to anticipate what people will do and what their actions are telegraphing. Think about what COULD happen if you set your device down in certain spots.
This has helped protect my device more times than I can count.
yep. When I was in London in February a moped rode past a lady and grabbed her phone, I would very rarely talk or use my iPhone when walking the busy streets.
 
Its also baffling how screen protectors claim to prevent the glass from shattering after a big drop. That’s like if I told you putting on a jacket can prevent your bones from breaking after falling off a building.

Screen protectors are a sacrificial layer and are effective at preserving the original glass underneath. Similar to wearing a helmet, elbow pads, or sunscreen. Protective gear reduces injury.

Those flexible films don't offer much screen protection from a fall but I'm also not throwing my phone off buildings. Tempered glass screen protectors saved our displays numerous times over the years and I'm always relieved to have it after a bad drop.
 
On one hand it's an expensive and complex computer that should be treated with as much care and respect as possible.

On the other hand it'll be in the bin in <10 years so there's a limit to how much care is warranted. Just use the thing.*.


*=obvs you don't want to actually break it, but if I was scared about a small scratch then what's the point. It's a phone at the end of the day, not just a piece of art. Maybe extra care for some people for resale, but then why not keep it a few extra years instead of selling it and not spend your whole life all wound up and paranoid when you may end up scratching it accidentally anyway. This is from an iPhone 6S user that still works great for the vast majority of daily stuff and I've very much enojoyed the last 7 years use of. It's got a crack across the screen from a drop on a cycling adventure, have also replaced the battery twice (first official Apple store, second time an uprated eBay one when I also replaced the lightning port/speaker board from sweating into it too much after using it as a cycling GPS for another multi-day cycling adventure and it starting a bit dodgy anyway - cost me peanuts). Having an old phone makes my life so much more relaxing and worry free. Soon will be a new 14 Pro and I can worry a lot again for a year or 2 (probably with AppleCare), then probably relax a bit again after a few years. BTW always lives in a quadlock case. Gained the screen crack before that, falling out a bike bag but it doesn't really show at most angles and not worth replacing the screen with a crappier cheap one or an overly expensive official one at this point. I think I have phone insurance on it but the excess is no doubt more than the phone is worth at this point! 🤣
 
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Its also baffling how screen protectors claim to prevent the glass from shattering after a big drop. That’s like if I told you putting on a jacket can prevent your bones from breaking after falling off a building.
Yep, baffling why police officers were stab/bullet proof vests, bikers wear helmets and construction workers wear hard hats.

Baffling.
 
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