Pfffft. Been spending the whole day on Office (on El Capitan) and it is riddled with bugs. Powerpoint, Word and Excel all crash every 10 minutes.
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Office 2016 / EL Capitan don't play well together
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In an Enterprise environment, no business will update their systems to a new OS the day it is released. Doing so would be detrimental to their everyday activities. And any business that does that should fire their IT guys.
As you pointed out, they installed the OS...without checking compatibility. Some will be compatible, some won't. Its up to the dev to update their apps to be compatible with a new OS (preferably before the OS is released) and it's up to the consumer to make sure the apps they use the most will work when they upgrade. Just cuz you jumped the gun without checking to see if your apps would work doesn't mean Apple is to blame completely.
Granted I updated the day of and most of my music apps aren't compatible, however I knew that going in since I checked compatibility first. I still have a Yosemite partition that I use for those apps. Everything else I run on El Capitan.
Sorry for the delayed response, but my computer was rebooting because I installed the new El Capitan update from Apple. Lemme check the release notes...
"Improves compatibility with Microsoft Office 2016"
I guess nobody at Apple checked with you.
I'm not affected by it. Time Machine works great and I was able to restore, then the Office 2011 patch came out, and soon we will know if Office 2016 works and I'll upgrade to it. I'm just surprised that something so basic to daily personal computer didn't delay the release.
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So, anyone that was having trouble found that 10.11.1 has fixed your problems with Office 2016?
And, fwiw, the keyboard and keyboard shortcuts work better with Windows. I use both, but as you say the Windows version just works better (big surprise?).
What are the functional differences between MS Office 2016 for Mac and MS Office 2016 for Windows? Come to think of it, the Mac version was released first. I can't find any significant difference, then again, I usually use InDesign or Vim and Tex for most of my work. I much prefer a separation of content and presentation.
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Well, I took a breath and applied the 10.11.1 update. Went well on both machines. First thing I did after the install reboot was to launch Mail, then click on a Word file attached to an email and ... Word opened fine without a crash. First time that has happened since I upgraded to El Capitan. Looking good so far but I have not given the Office apps at full workout yet.
I am pretty sure that both came out together as a part of Office 365, and the separate release of Mac Office 2016 last month. I was having some difficult with OFFICE 365 Mac and OS X El Capitan, but ever since the Office 2016 15.15 update, everything is working perfect. And the only program that I really was having problems with was Outlook, even though Outlook 2011 was not having any issues. Just DL the new El Capitan update 10.11.1, so most issues should be fixed.
My company has over 75,000 ThinkPad's deployed to users. All of them fly. I'd say your companies I.T. department are inept and probably have deployed a butchered image coupled with calamitous group policies along with a very poor network infrastructure.
I don't care. I bought a Mac and I'm happy. I'm so happy that I replaced it with another one when my first Mac was damaged.
I've used corporate PC's for decades. I never really liked them. I'm very happy to be a Mac user.
So far so good. Went to 10.11.1 a couple of days ago. Installed 2016 tonight, then immediately downloaded all available updates which took quite a while. Everything is behaving fine for now. Even opened a Word attachment from email with no trouble.
Going good for me here too. Just had Word and Excel open, swapping tables back and forth. Opening files no problem from within Finder and email attachments. Phew. Looks good so far.
LOL. I work for a major consulting firm with a close relationship to MS and we can get Windows OS upgrades as soon as they're released - it's up to the consultant to choose whether to do it or not. It's not been detrimental to our work and no one is calling for heads to roll in IT - most of us are actually extremely happy with our IT team.
Funny how people make assumptions about how the world works and then claim their assumption is fact.
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I'm a heavy user of Word and Excel only, so I can only speak to those apps. For Excel, the Mac version isn't as developed for Power Tools and VBA, but unless you're a professional business intelligence dev, you're likely not using those parts of Excel and won't see any difference at all. I can't name a single difference between Word for Mac and Word for Windows, though the VBA weakness likely applies (I haven't tried it out to see).
Office 2016 for Mac has been out for a bit now, and Office 2016 for Windows just released this month, so the Mac version was out first.
Most businesses I've worked for don't update the OS the day a new one is released. It's not an assumption, it's fact based on my experience. Also, I'm talking more about Mac OS updates and not Windows. And you're correct, it is up to the business/IT dept to choose. I just know in my experience, no company/firm I've worked for updates the day a new OS is released.
So it's ok for Apple to release an OS knowing that it doesn't work with MS Office, because professionals know that they aren't trustworthy. Got it.
It's not the OS that has to maintain compatibility with an app, it's the other way around.
Ha?
I recall a Microsoft corporate VP of Office products at the September Apple event promoting their Office products and how well they work on Apple products.
MS needs to integrate their products to work in an Apple IOS or an OS X environment if they want to sell to that market, period.
It was a bug in Apple's implementation/Build of SQL Lite fixed in 10.10.1
Frankly Apple releasing yeary releases is leading to many issues with software & usability. I now am supporting 10.6 to 10.11 and all have to deal with lots of issues in my business environments still shoe horning it in. But on that note my 10.9.5 environments are pretty rock solid...dare i say the snow leopard of OS X until they stop monkeying around with everything.
I want two year major releases and them to fix things under the hood in dot releases rather than concentrating on UI and locking people out of features to force updates.
Frankly Apple releasing yeary releases is leading to many issues with software & usability. I now am supporting 10.6 to 10.11 and all have to deal with lots of issues in my business environments still shoe horning it in. But on that note my 10.9.5 environments are pretty rock solid...dare i say the snow leopard of OS X until they stop monkeying around with everything.
I want two year major releases and them to fix things under the hood in dot releases rather than concentrating on UI and locking people out of features to force updates.
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It's a two-way street. Surely you realize that it if Microsoft stopped supporting Office on Mac, it would be a huge problem for Macintosh in enterprise. There are plenty of poor schmucks like me who wouldn't be able to use Mac if there weren't an MS Office for Mac available.
Overall it was "ok" in Beta but the bright sparks at Apple messed up changing some core frameworks in release and as they don't give a **** about third party functionality did not test with Office. No doubt the poor Devs are told to not bother as we will fix any big problems next year in 10.12 anyway