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aeboi

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Take a read

https://translate.google.com/transl...Samsung_GALAXY_Note_4.html&edit-text=&act=url

Especially concerning the screen, Note 4 crushes the iPhone

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Not to forget, Note 4 will have infinite contrast and much better black levels compared to iPhone 6.

Comparable brightness characteristics: maximum brightness Samsung was 334 cd / m 2 , if we talk about white fill the entire screen. But if the area of the white filling is reduced to at least 50%, the brightness is clearly growing - already up to 370 cd / m 2 . As it turned out, this is not the limit! If we translate the screen to automatically adjust the brightness and smartphone will be exposed to bright light (eg the sun) - that the brightness can grow to an impressive 620 cd / m 2 . Add to that the excellent efficacy of anti-reflective coating and conditionally "infinite" contrast AMOLED zero black - and you get an amazing combination.
The average color temperature Note 4 close to the reference value of 6500K. Note 4 color balance in the "main" is set perfectly. Most eloquently confirmed by the mean value of the error Delta E value of 1.07 units.
The average color temperature iPhone 6 Plus - about 7400K. Color balance shows that the image has a light bluish tint. The average error of Delta E on the gray scale - 8.5 units. Deviations tint get higher than that of the screen Note 4.
Color gamut Note 4 in the "main" fully complies with sRGB, without any discounts and errors. Moreover, the intermediate color values ​​lie practically on the reference values ​​- the minimum error. Total score of 24 color patterns ColorChecker gives an average error of Delta E value of only 1.22 units.
Overall Score color iPhone 6 Plus 24 templates ColorChecker gives the average error in the Delta E value of 3.52 units. Factory setting of color adequate, though not without some flaws.
Galaxy Note 4, almost perfect:

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iPhone 6 Plus, not so perfect!

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sotorious

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Lmao I don't even read these post for information anymore. I just like to read the disses and comebacks. It's like a TV show. I think I am the only one who likes this back and forth drama.
 

pedromcm.pm

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Mar 23, 2014
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I don't have a dog in the fight but would like to see Pedro come eat a little bit of crow for all the yapping he was doing?

I already said what I have to say in other threads. The note 4 screen is gorgeous, the best display ever made, by the looks of it.

However, your screen isn't that display that was reviewed. Your screen is made of layers, and the iPhone is so thin, with a display almost as good as the Note 4, making for a better experience. (in my opinion). Different lamination processes.

But AMOLED really put LCD to sleep, true. So what? My points were very clear:

Anyone that says that the iPhone has midrange specs don't know what they are talking about;
The iPhone blows the competition out of the water;
Only one or 2 devices might actually provide a better screen experience;
Both iPhones are by far the most advanced devices on the market, and just better;
The iPhone will bury the note;
Samsung is declining and the new iPhones will just accelerate the process.

Enjoy what you want to enjoy.
 

Dontazemebro

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I already said what I have to say in other threads. The note 4 screen is gorgeous, the best display ever made, by the looks of it.

However, your screen isn't that display that was reviewed. Your screen is made of layers, and the iPhone is so thin, with a display almost as good as the Note 4, making for a better experience. (in my opinion). Different lamination processes.

But AMOLED really put LCD to sleep, true. So what? My points were very clear:

Anyone that says that the iPhone has midrange specs don't know what they are talking about;
The iPhone blows the competition out of the water;
Only one or 2 devices might actually provide a better screen experience;
Both iPhones are by far the most advanced devices on the market, and just better;
The iPhone will bury the note;
Samsung is declining and the new iPhones will just accelerate the process.

Enjoy what you want to enjoy.

I just wanted to see you say you were wrong. I know the iPhone display is good, I have a 5s and the display is quite phenomenal so I would expect the 6 and 6 plus to be much better. And, vice versa, I have a Note 3 and expect the 4 to be much better.

I'm not arguing for either device, get what you like. Just want to see the objective facts laid out since a lot of untruths get thrown around about both systems.
 

pdqgp

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Mar 23, 2010
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However, your screen isn't that display that was reviewed. Your screen is made of layers, and the iPhone is so thin, with a display almost as good as the Note 4, making for a better experience. (in my opinion). Different lamination processes.

So you're seriously calling the Note 4 reviewed a "factory freak" that isn't indicative of what buyers will be getting?
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The iPhone blows the competition out of the water;
Only one or 2 devices might actually provide a better screen experience;
Both iPhones are by far the most advanced devices on the market, and just better;

"just better" really? That's all you've got? Define blows the competition out of the water too. IMO the real world use of the device is what's going to determine that. I'll know shortly as I've ordered a 6+ for a co worker and we'll line them up side by side on some larger spreadsheets and pdfs that we work with to see.

The whole lining up of specs on paper is funny as in the end, it's how it performs in the real world for people.
 

jamesrick80

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Sep 12, 2014
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I already said what I have to say in other threads. The note 4 screen is gorgeous, the best display ever made, by the looks of it.

However, your screen isn't that display that was reviewed. safari suck creen is made of layers, and the iPhone is so thin, with a display almost as good as the Note 4, making for a better experience. (in my opinion). Different lamination processes.

But AMOLED really put LCD to sleep, true. So what? My points were very clear:

Anyone that says that the iPhone has midrange specs dothey are talking about;
The iPhone blows the competition out of the water;
Only one or 2 devices might actually provide a better screen experience;
Both iPhones are by far the most advanced devices on the market, and just better;
The iPhone will bury the note;
Samsung is declining and the new iPhones will just accelerate the process.

Enjoy what you want to enjoy.

Your new iphone is midrange. why? First, you have a dual core processor and the inability to truly multitask. You have 1 gb of ram and cannot multitask without refreshes nor can you keep multiple applications open. Safari is slow and laggy. iphone 6 scroll rate is slow also. Next, your screen resolution was here 2 years ago. Second, you still have basic icons on your home screen and no way to have beautiful widgets on it. Your notification widgets are ugly. NEXT, the iphones have the largest bezels, bezels was so two years ago. Lastly if you have the 6 plus, it will bend soon lmao...
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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Your new iphone is midrange. why? First, you have a dual core processor and the inability to truly multitask. You have 1 gb of ram and cannot multitask without refreshes nor can you keep multiple applications open. Safari is slow and laggy. iphone 6 scroll rate is slow also. Next, your screen resolution was here 2 years ago. Second, you still have basic icons on your home screen and no way to have beautiful widgets on it. Your notification widgets are ugly. NEXT, the iphones have the largest bezels, bezels was so two years ago. Lastly if you have the 6 plus, it will bend soon lmao...

You know he's going to say that multitasking is a "gimmick", that's the catch all answer for anything iOS doesn't have... yet. I'm also amazed at how laggy Safari is in iOS, although I can only speak from the 5s as I haven't tried the 6 out yet. Also having Safari force close if I have too many tabs open really sucks. I also agree with how fugly and mid range/old technology those huge bezels are. Even the hardware everyone praises has those ugly plastic lines and as you mention people complain about bending their phones.

I think the iPhone 6 more so than the plus, but both of them are somewhat midrange phones. iOS is a decent OS and many consumers prefer it, I think that and the shiny apple logo on the back sell the phone. Nothing wrong with that, Apple makes billions and is an incredibly smart company.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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Your new iphone is midrange. why? First, you have a dual core processor and the inability to truly multitask. You have 1 gb of ram and cannot multitask without refreshes nor can you keep multiple applications open. Safari is slow and laggy. iphone 6 scroll rate is slow also. Next, your screen resolution was here 2 years ago. Second, you still have basic icons on your home screen and no way to have beautiful widgets on it. Your notification widgets are ugly. NEXT, the iphones have the largest bezels, bezels was so two years ago. Lastly if you have the 6 plus, it will bend soon lmao...

See, countering his frail arguments with crap like this really doesn't help at all.....

-That dual core processor bests every currently available phone out there in terms of benchmarks.
-I have no reload issue with 10 tabs and multiple apps open - been bi***** about enough on here I've done multiple tests on multiple devices.
-Safari isn't slow at all....
-iPhone 6 scroll rate is only as slow as you are....most people don't realize its not about fast swipes....the scrolling rate is dynamic meaning longer better timed swipes scroll faster. And getting to the top of the page is FAR easier in iOS versus Android.
-Screen resolution is only a small part of the display....iPhone 6+ 1080p =/= 2012 1080p Android devices. Check the DisplayMate review which lists the 6+ LCD as the best LCD ever.
-"Beautiful widgets" is a HUGELY subjective statement as I find the variety of styles and themes to be an eyesore and much perform the uniformity of my icons on iOS.
-Notification widgets have just been released....there are only a handful currently available....so you judge every widget that will ever be created based on a few? Certainly they are in a better spot and able to be tucked away rather than cluttering up a home screen. Again, UGLY is highly subjective.
-Bezels? You do know the 6+ is skinnier than the Note 4 right? I'm talking width. And the top and bottom bezels add only an extra 4-5mm....if I have to have 4-5mm extra height to get the superior TouchID and a uniform, symmetrical design so be it.

When someone make vague general comments like "the iPhone blows everything out of the water" it's general best not to rebut with "but Android is so much better because your phone sucks".

Try to think a little harder and come up with some FACTS. At the end of the day, you won't be able to. Because what makes one phone better than the other is up to the user and subjective.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
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You know he's going to say that multitasking is a "gimmick", that's the catch all answer for anything iOS doesn't have... yet. I'm also amazed at how laggy Safari is in iOS, although I can only speak from the 5s as I haven't tried the 6 out yet. Also having Safari force close if I have too many tabs open really sucks. I also agree with how fugly and mid range/old technology those huge bezels are. Even the hardware everyone praises has those ugly plastic lines and as you mention people complain about bending their phones.

I think the iPhone 6 more so than the plus, but both of them are somewhat midrange phones. iOS is a decent OS and many consumers prefer it, I think that and the shiny apple logo on the back sell the phone. Nothing wrong with that, Apple makes billions and is an incredibly smart company.

The problem with your line of thinking is that it belittles everyone who uses an iPhone for "real work". The whole idea that Android devices can be more productive is ludicrous and arrogant. I can do everything you can do on my iPhone. I may do things in a different way, but I can be equally as productive.

The ultimate reason I choose the iPhone (and I've used Android as my main device for the better part of the last two years) is because those I communicate and share most with use iPhones (and Apple's 1st party solutions for sharing and communicating are second to none) and because I prefer the effciency, simplicity and uniformity of the OS itself.

I have yet to run into a problem I could solve on my iPhone. And I was no more productive on my Nexus 5, Galaxy S4, or HTC One than I am on my iPhones.

I've welcomed the larger display with open arms. Its high time Apple jumped on board. Kudos to Samsung for driving the phablet catergory. But I never tried a phablet until now because it didn't run iOS.

I fully expect iOS to continue to evolve while devs take advantage of the vast number of new features at their disposal.

iOS 8 is and will be a HUGE update. Unfortunately, much of it is predicated on developer work which takes time. But it will come. I'm more convinced now than ever that the iPhone and iOS are the device and OS for me. If you disagree, that's fine. If something else works better for you, that's great. But don't belittle my (or others') preferences with comments like the above. It's petty and annoying.
 
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jamesrick80

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The problem with your line of thinking is that it belittles everyone who uses an iPhone for "real work". The whole idea that Android devices can be more productive is ludicrous and arrogant. I can do everything you can do on my iPhone. I may do things in a different way, but I can be equally as productive.

The ultimate reason I choose the iPhone (and I've used Android as my main device for the better part of the last two years) is because those I communicate and share most with use iPhones (and Apple's 1st party solutions for sharing and communicating are second to none) and because I prefer the effciency, simplicity and uniformity of the OS itself.

I have yet to run into a problem I could solve on my iPhone. And I was no more productive on my Nexus 5, Galaxy S4, or HTC One than I am on my iPhones.

I've welcomed the larger display with open arms. Its high time Apple jumped on board. Kudos to Samsung for driving the phablet catergory. But I never tried a phablet until now because it didn't run iOS.

I fully expect iOS to continue to evolve while devs take advantage of the vast number of new features at their disposal.

iOS 8 is and will be a HUGE update. Unfortunately, much of it is predicated on developer work which takes time. But it will come. I'm more convinced now than ever that the iPhone and iOS are the device and OS for me. If you disagree, that's fine. If something else works better for you, that's great. But don't belittle my (or others') preferences with comments like the above. It's petty and annoying.

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Have a nice life. This isn't even worth responding to.


What do you call real work on an iphone? For you, that's probably just being able to email since the iphone has few features to do anything else......Your phone is a redesigned 5S; nothing new or innovative. And the 1 GB of ram as well as the bending makes it a lemon.....indeed I will keep living nicely with my upcoming Note 4 which is the Best display ever (FACT)
 
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spinedoc77

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The problem with your line of thinking is that it belittles everyone who uses an iPhone for "real work". The whole idea that Android devices can be more productive is ludicrous and arrogant. I can do everything you can do on my iPhone. I may do things in a different way, but I can be equally as productive.

The ultimate reason I choose the iPhone (and I've used Android as my main device for the better part of the last two years) is because those I communicate and share most with use iPhones (and Apple's 1st party solutions for sharing and communicating are second to none) and because I prefer the effciency, simplicity and uniformity of the OS itself.

I have yet to run into a problem I could solve on my iPhone. And I was no more productive on my Nexus 5, Galaxy S4, or HTC One than I am on my iPhones.

I've welcomed the larger display with open arms. Its high time Apple jumped on board. Kudos to Samsung for driving the phablet catergory. But I never tried a phablet until now because it didn't run iOS.

I fully expect iOS to continue to evolve while devs take advantage of the vast number of new features at their disposal.

iOS 8 is and will be a HUGE update. Unfortunately, much of it is predicated on developer work which takes time. But it will come. I'm more convinced now than ever that the iPhone and iOS are the device and OS for me. If you disagree, that's fine. If something else works better for you, that's great. But don't belittle my (or others') preferences with comments like the above. It's petty and annoying.

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Have a nice life. This isn't even worth responding to.

Oh I'm not saying that you can't get "real" work done on an iphone, but you can get the same work done on a midrange phone released 2 years ago. Personally I CAN be more productive with my android phone and that's why I choose to buy one, but of course that is for MY personal and business needs. You may not need the features that I need. I don't think it's ludicrous or I am being arrogant at all, but android has some features which help my productivity.

MY comments were not meant to be belittling, sorry but in my opinion the iphone 6 is a mid range device at the end of 2014. It wouldn't run the software needs I require. If it works for every single personal and business function you need to, then I think that's awesome and obviously you chose the right phone. Please don't take me calling the ip6 mid range personally, I'm kind of not really sure why anyone would though. It's just a phone, a lifeless hunk of plastic, glass and metal which makes a company a ton of money.
 

linkgx1

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Oh I'm not saying that you can't get "real" work done on an iphone, but you can get the same work done on a midrange phone released 2 years ago. Personally I CAN be more productive with my android phone and that's why I choose to buy one, but of course that is for MY personal and business needs. You may not need the features that I need. I don't think it's ludicrous or I am being arrogant at all, but android has some features which help my productivity.

MY comments were not meant to be belittling, sorry but in my opinion the iphone 6 is a mid range device at the end of 2014. It wouldn't run the software needs I require. If it works for every single personal and business function you need to, then I think that's awesome and obviously you chose the right phone. Please don't take me calling the ip6 mid range personally, I'm kind of not really sure why anyone would though. It's just a phone, a lifeless hunk of plastic, glass and metal which makes a company a ton of money.
Could you state what exactly on an Android phone today that you can do productivity wise that you can't on an iPhone? I'm always curious when people make claims like this. Just like when people claim they can do some ''real work'' on an iPad.
 

spinedoc77

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Could you state what exactly on an Android phone today that you can do productivity wise that you can't on an iPhone? I'm always curious when people make claims like this. Just like when people claim they can do some ''real work'' on an iPad.

Yep, true multitasking and multi windows are a couple. Also widgets on android are more productive for me. Much of this isn't just business use though, much of it is also personal preferences and just enjoying the phone. We can also get into Note only features such as the S-pen, OneNote, etc. but this may be outside of your point. Also with research often I need a TON of internet tabs open, sometimes Safari would force quit on me but android/chrome has been pretty solid even with 20+ tabs.

I also can't do any "real" work on an iPad, I use a surface pro 3 and couldn't get work done on an android tablet either. But that's an entirely other debate.
 

jamesrick80

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Could you state what exactly on an Android phone today that you can do productivity wise that you can't on an iPhone? I'm always curious when people make claims like this. Just like when people claim they can do some ''real work'' on an iPad.

Hmm, I have a sense you call checking your bank balance on your iphone productivity ......:eek:
 

linkgx1

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Oct 12, 2011
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Yep, true multitasking and multi windows are a couple. Also widgets on android are more productive for me. Much of this isn't just business use though, much of it is also personal preferences and just enjoying the phone. We can also get into Note only features such as the S-pen, OneNote, etc. but this may be outside of your point. Also with research often I need a TON of internet tabs open, sometimes Safari would force quit on me but android/chrome has been pretty solid even with 20+ tabs.

I also can't do any "real" work on an iPad, I use a surface pro 3 and couldn't get work done on an android tablet either. But that's an entirely other debate.

Ok, I was more or less curious about the iPhone 'real work' productivity. Tablets are a different case for me, but since iPhones and Galaxies have smaller screens, even @ 5.5''. For me, my work place has an iPhone app and not an Android app so I lose productivity points there. The one aspect I DO like on Android is the ability to upload almost anyfile. Can't do that on iOS (at least, I haven't touched iOS yet so I'm not sure to that extent extensibilty goes).
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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Could you state what exactly on an Android phone today that you can do productivity wise that you can't on an iPhone? I'm always curious when people make claims like this. Just like when people claim they can do some ''real work'' on an iPad.

Ok, I was more or less curious about the iPhone 'real work' productivity. Tablets are a different case for me, but since iPhones and Galaxies have smaller screens, even @ 5.5''. For me, my work place has an iPhone app and not an Android app so I lose productivity points there. The one aspect I DO like on Android is the ability to upload almost anyfile. Can't do that on iOS (at least, I haven't touched iOS yet so I'm not sure to that extent extensibilty goes).

I did forget that, the ability to manipulate files in android is priceless. Many times I need to manipulate a file hands on and with iOS I can't really do that. It's not a level of control that everyone needs, I understand that.

I think the difference is that I look at my android phone as a mini computer and I expect it to have the same functionality with no trade offs. That may be a basic way of thinking that we all miss in the versus wars. iOS was always a compromise for me, android is much much less of a compromise on a phone for MY needs.
 

Markyboy81

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Oct 30, 2011
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Multi window is a great feature but for some reason only certain apps are available for it, unless you root. I wonder if the note 4 will add more apps to this and make it more of a useful feature?
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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Multi window is a great feature but for some reason only certain apps are available for it, unless you root. I wonder if the note 4 will add more apps to this and make it more of a useful feature?

They are supposed to be adding a lot more, but not every app can do it. It's an extremely simple process to get multi windows support for any app, but you're right it requires root.
 

Markyboy81

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Oct 30, 2011
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They are supposed to be adding a lot more, but not every app can do it. It's an extremely simple process to get multi windows support for any app, but you're right it requires root.
Have found an app that does this without root and works well but not for every app. Also wanted to enable multi instance with whatsapp so I can have two conversations simultaneously in two windows but it just crashes the app.
 

Technarchy

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Lol the note 4 is the best, if someone says otherwise.....there is no warrant to any explanations now. :D

Best is an odd thing to declare when it comes to displays. It's relative and preference as much as it is calibration observations.

G3 screen is a prime example. Supposedly great but I am not impressed. I actually prefer the S5 or even the 5S.
 
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