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OnePlus 6 to copy the "notch"?
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Shame on One Plus, once the not expensive flagship killer and now the Apple Notch copy cat...
Well atleast people won't need to trash 1000$ for it.
I really hope this obsession that Android OEMS are having with the Notch stops because it's ridiculous and it adds no functionality in the phone.
Well atleast people won't need to trash 1000$ for it.
I really hope this obsession that Android OEMS are having with the Notch stops because it's ridiculous and it adds no functionality in the phone.
The notch is the worst!!! I rather have bigger bezzles than a cutout. It's like the obcession with having very thin electronics. I actually don't mind bezels. Would be cool if they come up with no bezels but until then make them symetrical all around at least.
Agreed. Bezels are actually useful to hold the phone, if they can be made a little smaller while keeping the screen huge then better.
I guess the notch had to start somewhere. Over time, it should shrink & eventually disappear.
Stepping stones.
The notch didn't have to start. It was contrived to differentiate the X from other iphones. That will lure customers in. Then Apple will remove the notch in a subsequent model which will draw people again. There was no technical reason for Apple to use a notch instead of keeping the top bezel and waiting until they were able accomplish those capabilities without a notch.
I'm not sure the notch lured many people in. I think the larger screen, due to the use of the notch/tucked away status bar, lured them in.
We're looking at that area of the phone differently. You're seeing it as intruding on the (falsely) advertised 5.8" screen.
But I don't treat that 5.8" advertised screen as the actual size. It's more ~5.6", which is almost an inch more than their prior non-plus models, in the same form factor....ie. an efficient use of that size phone, thanks to the merged notch/status bar.
It's a natural evolution which will eventually see the iPhone & just about every other phone sans bezels in as small a form factor as possible.
I don't think anyone is 'lured in' by the notch--haven't yet heard a single iPhone X user claim they got the X instead of the 8/8+ because they 'had to have the notch'.
We all just deal with it.And maybe it was contrived to a certain degree, give an new profile to replace the immediately identifiable home button, but it certainly has a reason as well. Forgoing the notch for top and bottom bezels a la the Pixel 2 XL or Galaxy devices means it's a bigger phone. If Apple wanted to fit that size display in as small as a form factor as they have, the only option was to use a notch. And don't both with the 'they could've just had a top bezel'--Apple's design style has historically placed large emphasis on symmetry. There was no way they would've adopted an asymmetrical display layout.
I'd love to have an edge-to-edge display, 'notch-less' design as much as anyone but as I mentioned in another thread, I prefer the slight compromise of having the notch for the benefits its inclusion has provided (FaceID on a smaller phone with no chin). That section of the display has historically included very little information so if I had to lose a little chunk, that was the best spot for it.
If it wasn't to lure people in with something different, then what was the urgency to go bezel-less before the technology allowed them to do it right?
I disagree with the premise that the notch is a natural evolutionary step. There is nothing "natural" about it.
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s going to be one of the best looking smartphones and without a notch.
If that’s real, how embarrassing that Apple was beaten to that form factor. I mean I couldn’t help but smirk when the X was introduced and Jony touted it as edge to edge or all glass or whatever he said it was, though it was not. I couldn’t help but look at it and see the notch that made such a declaration a lie. It was an “Emperor’s new clothes” moment for me.Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s going to be one of the best looking smartphones and without a notch.
That device has a larger chin and lacks all the technology packed in the notch
True. But I would have felt Apple had truly accomplished what they SAY they did in giving us an edge to edge unbroken slab of glass phone, IF they would have found a way to put a FPS under the display or even put it on the back. However, I know Apple and Apple fans wouldn’t accept such a solution. They would want something new and exotic like what Apple ended up doing in giving us Face ID. That’s great. I think the X has been a very successful new model debut. My husband likes his well enough and I liked mine well enough while I had it.
But I like a more traditional rectangle better.
I think competition made them play the near bezel-less card - Samsung, after the Note 7 disaster, pulled out all stops for the Galaxy 8 series, & I think Apple perhaps responded to that.
Apple are doomed if they stayed the same (a design they'd used since the iphone 6) or went a different way, as you've demonstrated.
App developers are free to create that top bezel which you prefer. & if they opt to do that, then you've still got a bigger screen to work with, in a smaller form factor.
What's your reason for it not being a natural 'middle-ground' step?
Current phones: Top bezel on one row, with camera/sensors on one row + a status bar row underneath.
Notched phones: Bezel/Camera/sensors/status bar on a single row.
Future phones: No bezel. Camera beneath the glass. Software status bar on a single row which disappears completely in certain Apps, allowing for a bezel-less, full-screen experience.
Seems a natural progression to me.
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I'm notchsure (
) Apple's really bothered by it tbh. They're on their own journey toward a true bezel-less design, as are Google, Samsung etc.Each manufacturer wants to get there, sans certain compromises in other features. They want a 'package' to deliver to their market, not just a bezel-less phone.
It does look good though & hopefully prompts others to fast-track their trip to bezel-less town.
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Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s going to be one of the best looking smartphones and without a notch.
Not that clear cut without knowing what they did with the sensors. Zoomed in it looks like the camera sensor is moved to the bottom which isn't ideal since phone usage could cover it.
Everyone's an armchair CEO, GM of a major sports team, SVP of engineering, or Head of Design. It's all so easy to make everything perfect from here. You just have to magically add more, take away nothing, and lower the price. Awesome! Done. See how easy that is, Apple?
I'm sure people who've actually attempted to make real world decisions like this have their complaints too and I think there are a few of those around here, but I mostly see the "armchair GM" types plying their craft of magical thinking.
I think some (not all!) notch haters are possibly allowing their anti-Apple subconscious take over in their over-the-top disgust over the notch.
Just imo.
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From what I've seen, you have the option of maintaining that symmetrical screen use in landscape, whilst maximising the screen in landscape.
The Mi Mix 2 also had the camera on the bottom. This one haves less bezels which is fine. I actually don't care about the front facing camera at all .Would rather have the option to buy a smartphone without one just to get a smartphone with close to 100% of screen.
Yes, the notch is a compromise made because of technological limitations, and imo Apple were able to play that card only because of their incredibly strong brand. I'm sure even Jony Ive would have preferred to use a symmetrical screen. But they couldn't, so they turned it to their advantage by choosing a solution that made their phone at least stick out. It's ugly, but bold, and bold is sexy. And because they're apple they define what beauty is, and so everyone else takes after. I'm positive that noone else could have got away with it like they did.
Note that I'm not anti Apple in any way, I use Macs and a 7 Plus. I just like my screens to be symmetrical, so the X is a disappointment for me.
See, never happy. I think Samsung did it right with the S8 and S9 and the small bezel. At least it doesnt have a notch where you cant fit notifications and the battery %.
Till they figure out how to incorperate the sensors on the screen or have them work someplace else, the notch is what Apple chose. Im glad Samsung didnt, bezels dont bother me.
Dont like the notch, dont buy the iPhone X or these Android phones that have it. Thats what i chose to do.
Same here....bezels don't bother me either......gotta hold the phone somehow....