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Lloydbm41

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Huh? I’m not scared of change at all; my previous phone was a Galaxy S8. There are valid reasons to be skeptical of OnePlus, despite the excuses OnePlus users use to defend the company:

https://www.howtogeek.com/340174/its-time-to-stop-buying-phones-from-oneplus/
Same could be said for Apple btw. I remember it was around 2010 when everyone was having issues getting their itunes accounts hacked into, because Apple's security was easily circumvented at the time. Should we have been skeptical of Apple because of this then? Or maybe after their developer portal was hacked? We still don't know if there is hidden code waiting to be activated in there. One+ has been around for 5 years and have now entered the big leagues. They know they have to meet much higher standards if they want to remain selling phones in the lucrative West markets.

It's good to remain vigilant about certain companies (Xiaomi comes to mind), but you also have to remember that every company has gone through growing pains (including companies like Apple).
 

ramram55

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Same could be said for Apple btw. I remember it was around 2010 when everyone was having issues getting their itunes accounts hacked into, because Apple's security was easily circumvented at the time. Should we have been skeptical of Apple because of this then? Or maybe after their developer portal was hacked? We still don't know if there is hidden code waiting to be activated in there. One+ has been around for 5 years and have now entered the big leagues. They know they have to meet much higher standards if they want to remain selling phones in the lucrative West markets.

It's good to remain vigilant about certain companies (Xiaomi comes to mind), but you also have to remember that every company has gone through growing pains (including companies like Apple).
Xiaomi has Qualcomm processor, that is not on Uncle Sam watch list. Only the knowledgeable posters know their stuff, others simply write fake news.
 
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AppleRobert

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Not to take anything away from the quality of high priced flagship smartphones (I have owned many) but they just don't compare with the 6T with bang for buck.

This go round though I did actually what it says on the homescreen of the 6T, DON'T SETTLE. The XS Max and Pixel 3Xl I bought have been returned.
 

Lloydbm41

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Not to take anything away from the quality of high priced flagship smartphones (I have owned many) but they just don't compare with the 6T with bang for buck.

This go round though I did actually what it says on the homescreen of the 6T, DON'T SETTLE. The XS Max and Pixel 3Xl I bought have been returned.
Yep, I'm liking the 6T. Got it yesterday and have both Sims from Verizon and T-Mobile in it. Whomever has complained about the vibration motor on this phone is smoking crack. And I love having a mute/vibrate/volume on switch on an Android phone! One of the best features!
 

jamezr

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Yep, I'm liking the 6T. Got it yesterday and have both Sims from Verizon and T-Mobile in it. Whomever has complained about the vibration motor on this phone is smoking crack. And I love having a mute/vibrate/volume on switch on an Android phone! One of the best features!

I seriously don't know why more phones do not have this feature!
How has the camera?
 

Awesomesince86

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Yep, I'm liking the 6T. Got it yesterday and have both Sims from Verizon and T-Mobile in it. Whomever has complained about the vibration motor on this phone is smoking crack. And I love having a mute/vibrate/volume on switch on an Android phone! One of the best features!

I think it's a relative thing. Once you've used the Iphone every other phones vibration motor is a joke. The Pixel 3 XL has the best I've used on an Android device. I only spent a couple minutes with the 6T and I thought it was ok. Nothing near the Pixel or iPhone but it was serviceable.
 

Baldilocks

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The good old vibration motors. I remember rooting phones just to turn them up a bit.
You can still do that in keyboard settings without rooting.

I've never had a problem with Android vibration motors. The thing I always enjoyed about Android was the haptic and sound feedback on menu presses and screen presses. Still wish iOS would do that.
 

Lloydbm41

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I think it's a relative thing. Once you've used the Iphone every other phones vibration motor is a joke. The Pixel 3 XL has the best I've used on an Android device. I only spent a couple minutes with the 6T and I thought it was ok. Nothing near the Pixel or iPhone but it was serviceable.
I was using an iPhone X. I find the 6T to be pretty close in terms of haptic motor strength. Either that, or I got lucky with my 6T. Strength is good.
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I seriously don't know why more phones do not have this feature!
How has the camera?
Don't know. I don't really use the camera in my phones. Not a major concern for me. If it takes decent photo's, that's good enough for me.
 

PJM83

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So my iphone is getting a new owner, I miss android and my OP6. So picking up an 8/128 OP6T tomorrow. iOS really isn't for me any longer, too used to android by now.
 

Awesomesince86

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I was using an iPhone X. I find the 6T to be pretty close in terms of haptic motor strength. Either that, or I got lucky with my 6T. Strength is good.
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Don't know. I don't really use the camera in my phones. Not a major concern for me. If it takes decent photo's, that's good enough for me.

I tried the OnePlus 6T next to the Pixel 3 XL vibrarion motor and I noticed a night and day difference. It was about vibration strength but having a focused vibration that made sense based on the OS action taking place.

But it sounds like for your needs the OnePlus 6T is perfect for you. The camera is it's real weak point and if you don't care about that then it's hard to do better.
 

noobinator

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Jun 19, 2009
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Got mine yesterday and here's my initial impressions after playing with it for way too long yesterday:

The good
  1. It's extremely pretty - awesome design. Notch is so unassuming compared to the competition. Screen to body ratio makes this phone look awesome.
  2. It feels good in the hand. No complaints here. I got the midnight black model and it feels premium.
  3. It's insanely fast. It had zero hiccups even while setting it up under extremely high load.
  4. The 8gb of RAM is nice to have. Apps don't seem to reload under any sort of usage that I've put it under.
  5. Face unlock is really fast, like faster than iOS fast.

The not as good
  1. The gestures aren't horrible but aren't great. Better than Android but not as good as iOS would be a good way to put it.
  2. The screen is pretty crisp but I can definitely notice a difference from iPhones, Samsungs, Pixels etc...Just missing the wow factor. It's nice but not top of the line, which is expected for the price.
  3. Oxygen OS has some nice touches to it but I still prefer how Google does it with the Pixels. There's something I can't quite put my finger on but the pixels just seem more polished (not faster). I set animations to .5x and everything flies and is smooth but it is just missing something over the stock android I see on the pixels.
  4. The fingerprint sensor, while extremely cool, is slower than pixels and Samsung phones. It also blinds you if you try to unlock it at night using this method. I have come to prefer the FP reader on the back and think this is a cool gimmick but long term I'd prefer the back physical sensor.
  5. Speaker is just average. Not much to say here. It's a speaker. Not horrible but not as good as stereo speakers of the competition.

The bad
  1. The vibration/haptics are just not good to me. I've been using an iPhone X for a year now so I'm spoiled by its amazing haptics. If you are on Android already this might not bother you much but it bothered me. I can barely feel the vibration in my pocket. The vibration feels like something deep in the phone just vibrates whenever a vibration is needed, whereas on the iPhone it feels like a specific type based on what you are doing.
  2. The camera is what you'd expect out of a $500-$600 device. It's perfectly capable in nice natural outdoor lighting. Outside of that it's a few generations behind. Just not as capable in low light. Yes, I've seen some good low light examples online but it is definitely, noticeably much worse than the other flagships under anything except good lighting

My Very Early Conclusion

I am mostly reiterating what most reviewers have said but it's because the strengths and weaknesses are pretty easy to pick out. This phone is pretty darn amazing for $600 or less. It looks and feels like a flagship. If you don't take a ton of pics or take pics mostly in the daylight then this phone is a no-brainer over the competition. I will continue to use this for a few more days before making my final decision on whether to keep it or not.

I'm guessing a lot of you on this forum are like me though, and want the best of the best with no compromises. With this phone, I just have this feeling of wanting a bit more. The extras from the competition are probably worth it to me and those like me (enthusiasts not out to just save money). I'll give it some time but I'm thinking I'll probably end up with the Pixel 3 XL for the best of the best camera, superior screen (notch aside, the clarity is much better in my opinion), stock android (my personal preference), better haptics, wireless charging, IP rating, and the cool extras like call screening, squeeze feature etc...

As I said, if you aren't a huge enthusiast, or want the best value then this phone is a MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR GO (shout out to Floss). But if you are an enthusiast who always wants the best of the best then this phone might leave you missing some of the benefits of the competition.
 
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nospleen

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Got mine yesterday and here's my initial impressions after playing with it for way too long yesterday:

The good
  1. It's extremely pretty - awesome design. Notch is so unassuming compared to the competition. Screen to body ratio makes this phone look awesome.
  2. It feels good in the hand. No complaints here. I got the midnight black model and it feels premium.
  3. It's insanely fast. It had zero hiccups even while setting it up under extremely high load.
  4. The 8gb of RAM is nice to have. Apps don't seem to reload under any sort of usage that I've put it under.
  5. Face unlock is really fast, like faster than iOS fast.

The not as good
  1. The gestures aren't horrible but aren't great. Better than Android but not as good as iOS would be a good way to put it.
  2. The screen is pretty crisp but I can definitely notice a difference from iPhones, Samsungs, Pixels etc...Just missing the wow factor. It's nice but not top of the line, which is expected for the price.
  3. Oxygen OS has some nice touches to it but I still prefer how Google does it with the Pixels. There's something I can't quite put my finger on but the pixels just seem more polished (not faster). I set animations to .5x and everything flies and is smooth but it is just missing something over the stock android I see on the pixels.
  4. The fingerprint sensor, while extremely cool, is slower than pixels and Samsung phones. It also blinds you if you try to unlock it at night using this method. I have come to prefer the FP reader on the back and think this is a cool gimmick but long term I'd prefer the back physical sensor.
  5. Speaker is just average. Not much to say here. It's a speaker. Not horrible but not as good as stereo speakers of the competition.

The bad
  1. The vibration/haptics are just not good to me. I've been using an iPhone X for a year now so I'm spoiled by its amazing haptics. If you are on Android already this might not bother you much but it bothered me. I can barely feel the vibration in my pocket. The vibration feels like something deep in the phone just vibrates whenever a vibration is needed, whereas on the iPhone it feels like a specific type based on what you are doing.
  2. The camera is what you'd expect out of a $500-$600 device. It's perfectly capable in nice natural outdoor lighting. Outside of that it's a few generations behind. Just not as capable in low light. Yes, I've seen some good low light examples online but it is definitely, noticeably much worse than the other flagships under anything except good lighting

My Very Early Conclusion

I am mostly reiterating what most reviewers have said but it's because the strengths and weaknesses are pretty easy to pick out. This phone is pretty darn amazing for $600 or less. It looks and feels like a flagship. If you don't take a ton of pics or take pics mostly in the daylight then this phone is a no-brainer over the competition. I will continue to use this for a few more days before making my final decision on whether to keep it or not.

I'm guessing a lot of you on this forum are like me though, and want the best of the best with no compromises. With this phone, I just have this feeling of wanting a bit more. The extras from the competition are probably worth it to me and those like me (enthusiasts not out to just save money). I'll give it some time but I'm thinking I'll probably end up with the Pixel 3 XL for the best of the best camera, superior screen (notch aside, the clarity is much better in my opinion), stock android (my personal preference), better haptics, wireless charging, IP rating, and the cool extras like call screening, squeeze feature etc...

As I said, if you aren't a huge enthusiast, or want the best value then this phone is a MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR GO (shout out to Floss). But if you are an enthusiast who always wants the best of the best then this phone might leave you missing some of the benefits of the competition.

Great review! Thank you for taking the time.
 
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AppleRobert

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Certainly haptic feedback and the camera quality didn't stop me from saving hundreds of dollars over what I had and eventually returned.

I agree with what Josh wrote, this smartphone is DOPE for the bucks. Taught me a lesson regarding my smartphone phobia, I guess some would disagree with the motto never settle though.
 

jamezr

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Got mine yesterday and here's my initial impressions after playing with it for way too long yesterday:

The good
  1. It's extremely pretty - awesome design. Notch is so unassuming compared to the competition. Screen to body ratio makes this phone look awesome.
  2. It feels good in the hand. No complaints here. I got the midnight black model and it feels premium.
  3. It's insanely fast. It had zero hiccups even while setting it up under extremely high load.
  4. The 8gb of RAM is nice to have. Apps don't seem to reload under any sort of usage that I've put it under.
  5. Face unlock is really fast, like faster than iOS fast.

The not as good
  1. The gestures aren't horrible but aren't great. Better than Android but not as good as iOS would be a good way to put it.
  2. The screen is pretty crisp but I can definitely notice a difference from iPhones, Samsungs, Pixels etc...Just missing the wow factor. It's nice but not top of the line, which is expected for the price.
  3. Oxygen OS has some nice touches to it but I still prefer how Google does it with the Pixels. There's something I can't quite put my finger on but the pixels just seem more polished (not faster). I set animations to .5x and everything flies and is smooth but it is just missing something over the stock android I see on the pixels.
  4. The fingerprint sensor, while extremely cool, is slower than pixels and Samsung phones. It also blinds you if you try to unlock it at night using this method. I have come to prefer the FP reader on the back and think this is a cool gimmick but long term I'd prefer the back physical sensor.
  5. Speaker is just average. Not much to say here. It's a speaker. Not horrible but not as good as stereo speakers of the competition.

The bad
  1. The vibration/haptics are just not good to me. I've been using an iPhone X for a year now so I'm spoiled by its amazing haptics. If you are on Android already this might not bother you much but it bothered me. I can barely feel the vibration in my pocket. The vibration feels like something deep in the phone just vibrates whenever a vibration is needed, whereas on the iPhone it feels like a specific type based on what you are doing.
  2. The camera is what you'd expect out of a $500-$600 device. It's perfectly capable in nice natural outdoor lighting. Outside of that it's a few generations behind. Just not as capable in low light. Yes, I've seen some good low light examples online but it is definitely, noticeably much worse than the other flagships under anything except good lighting

My Very Early Conclusion

I am mostly reiterating what most reviewers have said but it's because the strengths and weaknesses are pretty easy to pick out. This phone is pretty darn amazing for $600 or less. It looks and feels like a flagship. If you don't take a ton of pics or take pics mostly in the daylight then this phone is a no-brainer over the competition. I will continue to use this for a few more days before making my final decision on whether to keep it or not.

I'm guessing a lot of you on this forum are like me though, and want the best of the best with no compromises. With this phone, I just have this feeling of wanting a bit more. The extras from the competition are probably worth it to me and those like me (enthusiasts not out to just save money). I'll give it some time but I'm thinking I'll probably end up with the Pixel 3 XL for the best of the best camera, superior screen (notch aside, the clarity is much better in my opinion), stock android (my personal preference), better haptics, wireless charging, IP rating, and the cool extras like call screening, squeeze feature etc...

As I said, if you aren't a huge enthusiast, or want the best value then this phone is a MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR GO (shout out to Floss). But if you are an enthusiast who always wants the best of the best then this phone might leave you missing some of the benefits of the competition.
Great write up! time to start a YT channel :)
 

ramram55

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Jul 27, 2012
829
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Got mine yesterday and here's my initial impressions after playing with it for way too long yesterday:

The good
  1. It's extremely pretty - awesome design. Notch is so unassuming compared to the competition. Screen to body ratio makes this phone look awesome.
  2. It feels good in the hand. No complaints here. I got the midnight black model and it feels premium.
  3. It's insanely fast. It had zero hiccups even while setting it up under extremely high load.
  4. The 8gb of RAM is nice to have. Apps don't seem to reload under any sort of usage that I've put it under.
  5. Face unlock is really fast, like faster than iOS fast.

The not as good
  1. The gestures aren't horrible but aren't great. Better than Android but not as good as iOS would be a good way to put it.
  2. The screen is pretty crisp but I can definitely notice a difference from iPhones, Samsungs, Pixels etc...Just missing the wow factor. It's nice but not top of the line, which is expected for the price.
  3. Oxygen OS has some nice touches to it but I still prefer how Google does it with the Pixels. There's something I can't quite put my finger on but the pixels just seem more polished (not faster). I set animations to .5x and everything flies and is smooth but it is just missing something over the stock android I see on the pixels.
  4. The fingerprint sensor, while extremely cool, is slower than pixels and Samsung phones. It also blinds you if you try to unlock it at night using this method. I have come to prefer the FP reader on the back and think this is a cool gimmick but long term I'd prefer the back physical sensor.
  5. Speaker is just average. Not much to say here. It's a speaker. Not horrible but not as good as stereo speakers of the competition.

The bad
  1. The vibration/haptics are just not good to me. I've been using an iPhone X for a year now so I'm spoiled by its amazing haptics. If you are on Android already this might not bother you much but it bothered me. I can barely feel the vibration in my pocket. The vibration feels like something deep in the phone just vibrates whenever a vibration is needed, whereas on the iPhone it feels like a specific type based on what you are doing.
  2. The camera is what you'd expect out of a $500-$600 device. It's perfectly capable in nice natural outdoor lighting. Outside of that it's a few generations behind. Just not as capable in low light. Yes, I've seen some good low light examples online but it is definitely, noticeably much worse than the other flagships under anything except good lighting

My Very Early Conclusion

I am mostly reiterating what most reviewers have said but it's because the strengths and weaknesses are pretty easy to pick out. This phone is pretty darn amazing for $600 or less. It looks and feels like a flagship. If you don't take a ton of pics or take pics mostly in the daylight then this phone is a no-brainer over the competition. I will continue to use this for a few more days before making my final decision on whether to keep it or not.

I'm guessing a lot of you on this forum are like me though, and want the best of the best with no compromises. With this phone, I just have this feeling of wanting a bit more. The extras from the competition are probably worth it to me and those like me (enthusiasts not out to just save money). I'll give it some time but I'm thinking I'll probably end up with the Pixel 3 XL for the best of the best camera, superior screen (notch aside, the clarity is much better in my opinion), stock android (my personal preference), better haptics, wireless charging, IP rating, and the cool extras like call screening, squeeze feature etc...

As I said, if you aren't a huge enthusiast, or want the best value then this phone is a MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR GO (shout out to Floss). But if you are an enthusiast who always wants the best of the best then this phone might leave you missing some of the benefits of the competition.
How good is the battery life?
 

Harthag

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Yep, I'm liking the 6T. Got it yesterday and have both Sims from Verizon and T-Mobile in it. Whomever has complained about the vibration motor on this phone is smoking crack. And I love having a mute/vibrate/volume on switch on an Android phone! One of the best features!
I just ordered one today and it should be delivered next week. How is Verizon working for you on the 6T? Do you have WiFi calling? I'm also on Verizon, hopefully they will iron out the kinks in the coming weeks. Will try T-Mobile again too, may as well try out the dual sim capability.
 

Lloydbm41

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I just ordered one today and it should be delivered next week. How is Verizon working for you on the 6T? Do you have WiFi calling? I'm also on Verizon, hopefully they will iron out the kinks in the coming weeks. Will try T-Mobile again too, may as well try out the dual sim capability.
I haven't tried wifi calling. I never use that feature. Regular calling works great for me, so see no need.
Only thing you need to do is either call Verizon customer service or go into the store and tell them to add the feature "CDMA-less" onto your line. The reason for this is, you won't get incoming texts if you don't do it. Once I did this, it took about 30 min and everything works perfectly.
I have my sims setup to do texting and calls with T-Mobile and data with Verizon. If I get into areas that Verizon has issues, I tap on the data button and switch over to T-Mobile. Love the dual sim capability. As much as I travel around the State of California, this is now a life saver feature for me!
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Mine is on november.
Just got a new update yesterday from One+. Build number: ONEPLUS A6013_41_181103
Security patch level is still Nov 1, 2018
 

Harthag

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I haven't tried wifi calling. I never use that feature. Regular calling works great for me, so see no need.
Only thing you need to do is either call Verizon customer service or go into the store and tell them to add the feature "CDMA-less" onto your line. The reason for this is, you won't get incoming texts if you don't do it. Once I did this, it took about 30 min and everything works perfectly.
I have my sims setup to do texting and calls with T-Mobile and data with Verizon. If I get into areas that Verizon has issues, I tap on the data button and switch over to T-Mobile. Love the dual sim capability. As much as I travel around the State of California, this is now a life saver feature for me!
[doublepost=1541705953][/doublepost]
Just got a new update yesterday from One+. Build number: ONEPLUS A6013_41_181103
Security patch level is still Nov 1, 2018
Great to hear, thank you!
 

Breaking Good

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Sep 28, 2012
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That’s it? No comment on the article?

What part did you want a comment on? The part where the author recommends that you purchase a Motorola (a.k.a. Lenovo) smartphone, another Chinese company, or the part where he recommends you purchase a phone from Essential?
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Apple and Google do not sell your info.

You may be correct about Apple, but if Google isn’t selling your info then how are they making money?
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I haven't tried wifi calling. I never use that feature. Regular calling works great for me, so see no need.
Only thing you need to do is either call Verizon customer service or go into the store and tell them to add the feature "CDMA-less" onto your line. The reason for this is, you won't get incoming texts if you don't do it. Once I did this, it took about 30 min and everything works perfectly.
I have my sims setup to do texting and calls with T-Mobile and data with Verizon. If I get into areas that Verizon has issues, I tap on the data button and switch over to T-Mobile. Love the dual sim capability. As much as I travel around the State of California, this is now a life saver feature for me!
[doublepost=1541705953][/doublepost]
Just got a new update yesterday from One+. Build number: ONEPLUS A6013_41_181103
Security patch level is still Nov 1, 2018

Just curious, how often do you run into areas where you have T-Mo service, but not Verizon?

I’m not trying to be critical of T-Mo as I think they have done great thing to spur competition in the U.S. cellular market. But from my reading it seems Verizon has far greater network coverage than T-Mo.

Either way I’m glad that OnePlus is now working on three of the four major U.S. networks. My guess is that things will continue to improve for OnePlus on Verizon as Verizon continues towards shutting down its CDMA network by the end f 2019.
 
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