OnePlus One

[spriter]

I thought I read a while ago the true build costs for each phone, and the iPhone was like $250 for Apple to produce, and the Galaxy S5 like $225, these are not exacts costs. And they retail off contract for like $650, making like $400 per phone. Let's say the iPhone 5S sold in one year like 80 million iPhone 5S's, they would have made like $32 billion ?

So let's say the OnePlus costs around $200 to build, and they sell them for $300 to $350, making $100 / $150 per phone. So selling 500,000 phones at $100 profit they could have made like $50 million possibly.

Slightly simplified accounting there.

Build costs are only part of an overall cost that also includes distribution, logistics, returns, support, sales, retail, marketing, staffing, and many more. Only then can you talk about margin and profit.

Whilst OPO undoubtedly has lower overall costs due to direct sales and minimal marketing, I doubt they're making anywhere near the margin you're suggesting.

However, as volumes increase and parts become cheaper, manufacturing issues lower, yield rates hit their stride, they should be maximizing any margin (or limiting losses) as time passes - as long as they continue selling.

They would probably have made more per unit on SwapStyle cases had those ever happened.

 

[Vegastouch]

I thought I read a while ago the true build costs for each phone, and the iPhone was like $250 for Apple to produce, and the Galaxy S5 like $225, these are not exacts costs. And they retail off contract for like $650, making like $400 per phone. Let's say the iPhone 5S sold in one year like 80 million iPhone 5S's, they would have made like $32 billion ?

So let's say the OnePlus costs around $200 to build, and they sell them for $300 to $350, making $100 / $150 per phone. So selling 500,000 phones at $100 profit they could have made like $50 million possibly.

According to the article they are making less than $10 profit per phone.

 

[xARx2]

I think they have another pre-order run November 17

Thanks. Let's see how fast it sells out. IMO probably faster that the first pre-order. This is terrible. People's interest will die out, one can only wait for so long. I know my interests are shifting towards Nexus 6, but it seems Google has taken a page out of OnePlus's book and done an every Wednesday sale (in which stock flies off the shelves). I hope these "sales" (e.g. invites and pre-order rushes) don't become the norm when manufacturers get low on inventory. ​

 

[Jibbajabba]

Thanks. Let's see how fast it sells out. IMO probably faster that the first pre-order. This is terrible. People's interest will die out, one can only wait for so long. I know my interests are shifting towards Nexus 6, but it seems Google has taken a page out of OnePlus's book and done an every Wednesday sale (in which stock flies off the shelves). I hope these "sales" (e.g. invites and pre-order rushes) don't become the norm when manufacturers get low on inventory. ​

That's the problem. It has been 'released' almost six months ago and they still release only limited numbers. By the time they have caught up, purple moved on to similar deals. It is impressive given they only had a marketing budget of $300 and already sold over 500k phones.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/11/07/oneplus-one-marketing-budget-was-just-300/

At the end of the day it doesn't matter how many they are selling as long as they are making a profit and their business model works for them. Sure people like me are annoyed lol but it clearly works for them. Maybe they make enough cash with this to ramp up production for their next one or the one after.

And to be honest, it clearly works better than Google's. N4 selling shambles

 

[theapplefanboyj]

Can anyone help me?
A few days ago I didn't put my phone on charge and when I woke up it drained 15%
Does anyone else have this problem? And is there a fix?

 

[Peckpeck]

invite?

Does anyone have any spare invites here? Id really like to try out the oneplus one!

 

[Tig Bitties]

Just got this case;
http://www.amazon.com/Nillkin-Frosted-Protector-Compatible-OnePlus/dp/B00L2D3NYE

I gotta say this case is AWESOME I have the Diztronic matte black case too, and typically I am a big fan of Diztronic, I had the Diztronic for my HTC One M8, and my brother does for his Nexus 5, and it's very thin, while also protecting the phone, but the Diztronic for the OnePlus One feels pretty thick and bulky for some reason on the 1+1, and is very slippery.

Anyways, this Nillkin black case is just perfect for me. The 1+1 is already a pretty large phone to begin with, and the Diztronic case made it feel quite a bit bigger and heavier, and I just loved using my OnePlus One naked, it felt so light and easier to handle, but I was always afraid of scratching it and dropping it. Well this Nillkin is very thin, and makes the phone feel naked almost still. It looks very nice, I love the rubbery feel on the back.

This case won't protect the phone much if dropped, but then again most cases aren't guaranteed to fully protect a phone. But I like the very light profile, making the phone still feel naked, but it does protect the camera in back, and the lip goes over the front screen, protecting the screen if you lay the phone face down.

 

[xARx2]

Does anyone have any spare invites here? Id really like to try out the oneplus one!

You are not alone...

Waiting for when it actually goes on sale. Or a phone with competing price and performance gets released. TBH that might happen first, unless OnePlus properly gears up for the holiday season sales.

 

[mrex]

have you noticed to update your opo? =) 44s has been out few days... if not getting ota (slow), just d/l the file, boot the phone in the recovery mode and apply the update.

http://builds.cyngn.com/fota/incremental/bacon/cm-bacon-ac1ccf7921-to-5fa8c79c0b-signed.zip

 

[Savor]

Biggest problem with these Chinese OEM's is availability or lack of which ends up discouraging potential buyers. Been interested in the IUNI U3 ever since of its announcement two months ago. But I know it seems like a pipe dream ever seeing that phone reach our shores. OnePlus aside, most inexpensive China phones with high specs stay in China.

OnePlus One alternatives...

IUNI U3 & Xiaomi Mi 4

 

[EbookReader]

Lot of invites are given away by members here
https://forums.oneplus.net/forums/invites/

though there are way more demand than supply.

The pre-order on Nov 17th might be better.

 

[Tig Bitties]

OnePlus CM12 Lollipop First Release
http://techpunked.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/rom-oneromaweek-oneplus-cm12-lollipop-first-release/

 

[spriter]

OnePlus CM12 Lollipop First Release

http://techpunked.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/rom-oneromaweek-oneplus-cm12-lollipop-first-release/

Been running this today - super light and fluid even though it's an early quick build.

If you know you're way around flashing and are curious about Lollipop, like I was, give it a try.

Suspect there'll be a pretty solid build by the time the official CM release comes around.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Been running this today - super light and fluid even though it's an early quick build.

If you know you're way around flashing and are curious about Lollipop, like I was, give it a try.

Suspect there'll be a pretty solid build by the time the official CM release comes around.

Your a brave soul

Is this good enough as a daily driver ? I mainly need the phone and texting to work. I heard Bluetooth and NFC not working, but I don't use either.

 

[spriter]

Your a brave soul

Is this good enough as a daily driver ? I mainly need the phone and texting to work. I heard Bluetooth and NFC not working, but I don't use either.

The OPO is now a backup or flash phone so I had nothing to lose.

It seems solid for an early build and it hasn't crashed or rebooted on me yet in 7-8 hours, although others have reported so. Not sure if they all did a clean wipe and if it was done via fastboot or recovery (I did fastboot).

BT not working but there's a more recent build with NFC fixed, plus multi-user mode added.

I'm still on the original first build (AK kernel, rooted, Gapps / Play Store ask working fine).

If it's your only phone and you need it to work, maybe wait a day or two for more reports and fixes. Or at least make a nandroid and copy it to your computer for insurance.

 

[Jibbajabba]

A shame, they finally lost me as a customer - been trying to get invites for 4 months now I think and thought "sod it" ....

 

[spriter]

Don't blame you. Mid-year was quiet but now the market is rife with choice, temptation, and access.

They will likely lose many more like you, especially after a few rounds of failed pre-orders.

 

[Tig Bitties]

CyanogenMod: First Android 5.0 Lollipop nightlies could arrive later this month
http://phandroid.com/2014/11/13/cyanogenmod-lollipop-news/

The development arm posted an update today noting that they’ve begun work on Android 5.0 Lollipop, and that folks can start to build it from the public github right now. Unfortunately they aren’t yet providing the ROM in nightly capacity, but the good news is that they don’t expect it to take long before those start showing up — the window has officially been set for late November or early December.

The team won’t look to rush the update out as they’ll want to get all the killer features CyanogenMod has become known for loaded up into Android 5.0 Lollipop, and potentially rework features that don’t fit the new look of Lollipop.

They also touched on device support, noting that while they don’t have a clear idea of how many devices they can support for Android 5.0 Lollipop, it’s looking to be a wider range of devices than they originally anticipated. This might be thanks to Google’s work to make Android work smoothly on entry-range and mid-range hardware. We can’t wait to see what’s in store for the near future. For now, you can get your hands on CyanogenMod 11 M12 (which is more of a security and bug fixer than anything else) right here.

 

[xARx2]

A shame, they finally lost me as a customer - been trying to get invites for 4 months now I think and thought "sod it" ....

Lost me for this product.
Maybe the "Oneplus Two" will be better, as is with many first generation devices.
Or maybe another phone manufacturer will fill the gap.
Unless I stumble upon an invite (probably less than the chance of being struck by lightning), I will cease actively looking for them and focus my attention to a different phone.

 

[Tig Bitties]

At this point if you can't get a OnePlus One, or another phone you really like. Just wait. The next next gen phones are just a few months away.

The HTC One M9 and Galaxy S6 will be out in 3 to 4 months.

 

[Jibbajabba]

Lost me for this product.
Maybe the "Oneplus Two" will be better, as is with many first generation devices.
Or maybe another phone manufacturer will fill the gap.
Unless I stumble upon an invite (probably less than the chance of being struck by lightning), I will cease actively looking for them and focus my attention to a different phone.

Indeed. I got a handful of messages lately regarding invites. Almost all of the want cash.

One guy offered me am invite for $200.

People, I am normal and don't feed the money making trolls. I won't pay premium for tickets of all kinds, for phones of all kinds or anything really unless it is retail or cheaper than retail.

I am too old for these games and couldn't care less

In fact, I just sold my Note 3 as I wanted to buy the OPO, but then I thought screw it and thought I am buying the Note 4 .... Now I ended up going smaller again and cheaper lol. Ordered myself a Moto G 2014 Dual Sim for a third of the price and take my wife out for dinner for the rest of the money instead.

 

[theapplefanboyj]

Indeed. I got a handful of messages lately regarding invites. Almost all of the want cash.

One guy offered me am invite for $200.

People, I am normal and don't feed the money making trolls. I won't pay premium for tickets of all kinds, for phones of all kinds or anything really unless it is retail or cheaper than retail.

I am too old for these games and couldn't care less

In fact, I just sold my Note 3 as I wanted to buy the OPO, but then I thought screw it and thought I am buying the Note 4 .... Now I ended up going smaller again and cheaper lol. Ordered myself a Moto G 2014 Dual Sim for a third of the price and take my wife out for dinner for the rest of the money instead.

I find invites in eBay for 5-10 dollars. Can't you?

 

[Jibbajabba]

I find invites in eBay for 5-10 dollars. Can't you?

Didn't I just say I am not willing to support kids in selling their free invites for cash?

Don't care if its $5, $10 or 2 cents

I am personally not supporting it.

 

[mrex]

buy it without an invite: https://oneplus.net/fi/nov17

 

[Faux Carnival]

Does OnePlus One currently have any problems/bugs or have they all been fixed?