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jamezr

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$450 for a OnePlus Two, vs $700 or so, for a HTC One M9, and the OnePlus Two is supposed to share exact same, if not better specs

Where did you get the dollar amount info for the OnePlus Two? I haven't seen anything on the next OPO yet..... do you have a link?
 

Tig Bitties

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Where did you get the dollar amount info for the OnePlus Two? I haven't seen anything on the next OPO yet..... do you have a link?

Nothing official, but just info I have read over the past several months and put together.

There have been comments regarding the next phone, will have to be a bit higher price, but still well below flagship pricing.

They have commented on wanting to use better materials and nicer build quality on the next phone.

Hardware wise it will match or even surpass current flagship specs, of whatever is the hot phone out at the time.
 

Cnasty

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Oneplus one successor will be unveiled in September.

Can't find source anymore

Curious to see how this pans out with Cyanogen being out of the picture which I think was one of the bigger selling points of the OPO. That and the specs/price of course.
 

epicrayban

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Curious to see how this pans out with Cyanogen being out of the picture which I think was one of the bigger selling points of the OPO. That and the specs/price of course.

It'll probably be Oxygen OS.

I hope the introduce two sizes. I wouldn't mind going back to a ~5" screen. Lol.
 

Oohara

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Curious to see how this pans out with Cyanogen being out of the picture which I think was one of the bigger selling points of the OPO. That and the specs/price of course.

Yep I'm bringing out the popcorn for this one! If OP(P)O handle putting together their own ROM - which is quite a task - like they handled the release of their first phone, then we might be in for an amusing trainwreck here :D

Dropping Cyanogenmod was a mistake imo....but we'll see...
 
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Tig Bitties

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The OnePlus One, is almost one years old, and the 16GB version for just $299, still can't really be beat at that price range.

Once the official CM12S update comes out running Lollipop 5.1, this phone will be even more of a beast, and add to that the new Xposed, and all the battery saving modules that has as well, this thing is a battery champion, and still super fast smooth.

What other phone can you buy today at $299, off contract, with these specs and custom type stock Android OS ?
 

C.O.T

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Coming from a Oneplus One I am definitely happier with the 6. It's better optimised, better camera, just the right size and has better build quality. I really liked the Oneplus One though and the battery was amazing! I would recommend it someone looking for good specs at a reasonable price
 

vantt1

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Coming from a Oneplus One I am definitely happier with the 6. It's better optimised, better camera, just the right size and has better build quality. I really liked the Oneplus One though and the battery was amazing! I would recommend it someone looking for good specs at a reasonable price

I also moved from the OnePlus One to the 6, and I'm also happier with it. The camera's auto focus, auto exposure, auto white balance (pretty much auto everything) is way more predictable than the OPO. The only thing it doesn't have that the OPO does is RAW capture, but when photos are so good from the get-go already, I don't need to mess with that stuff.

The 6's aluminum body definitely feels more premium than Sandstone Black, albeit being much more slippery. At least aluminum won't wear off from friction, but I can see those antenna bands getting damaged.

What made me switch was the absence of the promised Styleswaps, weak vibration that made me miss the already few phone calls I get, quiet earpiece and battery life that falls short of a lot of people's claims of 7+ hours SOT. Sure, everyone's usage patterns are different, but SOT is a good rough estimation of how much active interaction with the phone you can get. I was a fool to think they'd actually deliver on one of their main selling points.
 

whoknows87

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Owned a OnePlus one since June 2014, and by far this is one of the best smartphones i've ever owned IF not THE best, I also went out and bought an iPhone 6 and used it for a few days while on a trip one thing I did like about the 6 is the size and the very sharp and quick camera, but that's about it

I missed the customization that Android/CM allowed on the OnePlus, I also had Xposed installed and missed that too, I was hoping I'd be able to jailbreak the iPhone 6 and then see if I can use it as my daily driver unfortunately I'm on 8.1.3 and no jailbreak is available at the moment.Another point to mention is Google Now vs Siri the former is far more responsive and superior , I missed Google Now/ cards functionality, one more thing that really irritated me is not being able to filter contacts on the iPhone I had emails and contacts mixed together, an app purchase was necessary to sort things out, also the Caller ID
there is no app in the AppStore that allows for identification of unknown callers/numbers I dont have saved in my phonebook, I even went for a paid feature via my carrier only to find out the feature is not compatible with iPhones on iOS 8, I was able to install more than one App via Google Play store that got that job done, it identified unknown callers/texts without an issue. I still have the iPhone 6 but not using it at all , hoping a jailbreak would appear within the next few days will play around with it and see if the JB makes any difference
 

Tig Bitties

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I am going back to the OnePlus One. I had one last Fall, and sold it for a iPhone 6 Plus I jailbroke, but now I am missing Android a lot.

I value battery life #1 option

Price was an issue, but disregard price, what other newish type Android phone has the battery life like the OPO, that has been released in the past 12 months ? The Note 4 maybe ? I hate Tocuhwiz, and not a fan of the Note 4. The Nexus 6, nope, my Wife has it, and the battery life is good, but not OPO good, and the Nexus 6 feels cheap to me.

Only other good battery life phone would be the Sony Z3, but the development community looks pretty bleak, but other than that the Z3 seems like a great phone. But is the Z3 worth the $550, vs the OPO at $299 ? IMO I don't think so.

I still view the OPO as the true Nexus successor to the Nexus 5. The OPO looks like a larger and newer Nexus 5, and has the price point of Nexus phones too. Where the Nexus 6 is nothing like the previous Nexus phones. My Wife has the Nexus 6, it feels cheap, it rattles when haptic vibration on, it just seems ok, but certainly not great, and certainly not a $650 phone.

Out of the four 2014 Android phones I owned last year, the Galaxy S5, HTC One M8, OnePlus One, and Nexus 6. I put the OnePlus One at the top, and a close second the One M8, if the battery life was better, I'd say M8 #1. And then the Nexus 6 third, and S5 last.

Lastly I am not dissing my Jailbreak iPhone 6 Plus, it is a very nice phone, with EXCELLENT battery life, but it's more iOS I am not a fan of. Maybe iOS 9 or iOS 10 will bring me back. I like stock Android, or close, like the OPO has CM12S or the new Oxygen OS from Paranoid Android team, made specifically for the OnePlus One.
 

Kariya

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I've just done the opposite. Sold my Oneplus because i got tired of the promises that were always delayed or just never materialised

Good phone but the company...not so much.
 

epicrayban

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I am going back to the OnePlus One. I had one last Fall, and sold it for a iPhone 6 Plus I jailbroke, but now I am missing Android a lot.

I value battery life #1 option

Price was an issue, but disregard price, what other newish type Android phone has the battery life like the OPO, that has been released in the past 12 months ? The Note 4 maybe ? I hate Tocuhwiz, and not a fan of the Note 4. The Nexus 6, nope, my Wife has it, and the battery life is good, but not OPO good, and the Nexus 6 feels cheap to me.

Only other good battery life phone would be the Sony Z3, but the development community looks pretty bleak, but other than that the Z3 seems like a great phone. But is the Z3 worth the $550, vs the OPO at $299 ? IMO I don't think so.

I still view the OPO as the true Nexus successor to the Nexus 5. The OPO looks like a larger and newer Nexus 5, and has the price point of Nexus phones too. Where the Nexus 6 is nothing like the previous Nexus phones. My Wife has the Nexus 6, it feels cheap, it rattles when haptic vibration on, it just seems ok, but certainly not great, and certainly not a $650 phone.

Out of the four 2014 Android phones I owned last year, the Galaxy S5, HTC One M8, OnePlus One, and Nexus 6. I put the OnePlus One at the top, and a close second the One M8, if the battery life was better, I'd say M8 #1. And then the Nexus 6 third, and S5 last.

Lastly I am not dissing my Jailbreak iPhone 6 Plus, it is a very nice phone, with EXCELLENT battery life, but it's more iOS I am not a fan of. Maybe iOS 9 or iOS 10 will bring me back. I like stock Android, or close, like the OPO has CM12S or the new Oxygen OS from Paranoid Android team, made specifically for the OnePlus One.


I can relate to most of what you're saying here. I had the iPhone 6 (not 6+ like you) and also disliked where iOS was progressing, and actually more importantly, where it was not progressing. I also, personally, just didn't really like the design of the iPhone 6 and thought Apple lost its edge design-wise. People eat up the iPhone 6 design because it's Apple and you sort of have to because there's no other options, but when you really look at the iPhone 6, it's quite an ugly design.

So, I began exploring Android. And at the top of my lists were the Xperia Z3, OnePlus, Nexus 6, and in the distance, the Moto X and the M8. I eventually ruled out the M8 and Moto X quite easily because of the poor cameras. Then ruled out the Nexus 6 because stock Android just looked boring (plus price and lack of availability I guess).

It came down to the Z3 and the OnePlus, and the value of the OnePlus and the software really gave it the edge. I've already preached about how awesome the OnePlus One is many times before, both from a hardware standpoint and a software standpoint (Cyanogen is simply amazing. Close to stock, but has additional options and features that really make a big difference in the day to day experience). The only one thing I thought Xperia Z3 had over the OnePlus was design and grip-ability. Other than that, if you break it down, the OnePlus is its equal or better.

My only one gripe with the OnePlus is the camera. It's good, but it's not iPhone good.

Sounds like you're making the right choice. Plenty of invites floating around out there, or you could wait for when they open it up every Tuesday to anyone.

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I've just done the opposite. Sold my Oneplus because i got tired of the promises that were always delayed or just never materialised

Good phone but the company...not so much.


I'm still waiting for Lollipop. Supposed to drop by end of March. Other than this one month delay (I think they originally promised it for February), what did they fail to deliver on promise-wise that affects your use of the phone so much? Just curious.
 

epicrayban

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Holy crap! I just discovered that if you long press the app switcher software button on the oneplus it automatically brings you to the previous app you were just in. It's like an auto app switcher to the most recent/previous app. Try it.

Again, love cyanogen.
 

vantt1

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Holy crap! I just discovered that if you long press the app switcher software button on the oneplus it automatically brings you to the previous app you were just in. It's like an auto app switcher to the most recent/previous app. Try it.

Again, love cyanogen.

I can double tap my hardware menu button and it does the same thing. I wish they had either made the capacitive buttons bigger or not have them at all. When you use the software buttons you're left with a big functionless chin down the bottom.

Gotta love Android devices, because you can flash CM on any phone that supports it and get the same software features!
 

epicrayban

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I can double tap my hardware menu button and it does the same thing. I wish they had either made the capacitive buttons bigger or not have them at all. When you use the software buttons you're left with a big functionless chin down the bottom.

Gotta love Android devices, because you can flash CM on any phone that supports it and get the same software features!

Yeah I wish they did away with the capacitive buttons as well. I've adapted to the on screen buttons quite well. Feel it's wasted space too. But who knows what other hardware lies beneath that lower chin (the speakers are pretty loud and good quality).

I guess they tried to please both on screen and capacitive button users.
 

Farplaner

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It came down to the Z3 and the OnePlus, and the value of the OnePlus and the software really gave it the edge. I've already preached about how awesome the OnePlus One is many times before, both from a hardware standpoint and a software standpoint (Cyanogen is simply amazing. Close to stock, but has additional options and features that really make a big difference in the day to day experience). The only one thing I thought Xperia Z3 had over the OnePlus was design and grip-ability. Other than that, if you break it down, the OnePlus is its equal or better.

I had the exact same thought process when choosing my phone. Battery life is the most important factor for me and it came down to the Z3 vs OPO as well. Love the OPO.
 

vantt1

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I'm still waiting for Lollipop. Supposed to drop by end of March. Other than this one month delay (I think they originally promised it for February), what did they fail to deliver on promise-wise that affects your use of the phone so much? Just curious.

4 more days until official Lollipop. Woohoo. I've been running Liquidsmooth Lollipop for nearly 3 months now, so the LP hype has kinda died down. Since CM is so close to stock (and OOS too), I doubt there'd be anything that really sets it apart from the custom ROM crowd for me. Besides, unless it's LP 5.1 (which it isn't), I can't be bothered. By the time their LP is released, it's already outdated.

What disappointed me the most was the cancellation of the whole Styleswap line due to the poor yield of just the single Bamboo variant. Back when I had the Galaxy S4 Black Edition (dat pleather back tho) and first heard about the OPO, I instantly fell in love with the Walnut Styleswap:

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I didn't care much for CM11S, since there are so many custom ROMs for the S4. And the price wasn't a big deciding factor; as long as a device is worth its price, I don't care if it cost 3x more. I had to have the OPO, just for that Walnut finish. Then they cancelled the whole Styleswap line about 2 months after I got the phone. If I had known, I would've stuck with my S4.

I'm a sucker for BOMs and whatnot, and OnePlus said they were gonna put up a cost breakdown infographic of the One. This was nearly a year ago.

Yeah I wish they did away with the capacitive buttons as well. I've adapted to the on screen buttons quite well. Feel it's wasted space too. But who knows what other hardware lies beneath that lower chin (the speakers are pretty loud and good quality).

I guess they tried to please both on screen and capacitive button users.

And they ended up not fully satisfying either party :(

The capacitive buttons are probably smaller and dimmer than most would admit to prefer, and because the bottom bezel is already bigger than the one on the top, the on-screen buttons would further throw off this balance. If they had flipped the LCD and put the backlight LED array along the top edge, they could've evened out the top and bottom and also hid those unsightly LED spots in the status bar, which is black when in an app that displays mostly white (when those spots are most noticeable).

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They already shrunk the vibrate motor and speaker enclosures and put some empty space below the charging/speaker flex, so a smaller chin doesn't seem so far-fetched.

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The speakers are loud and clear, but they lack the "full-bodiness" that a mono speaker with a larger enclosure can provide. Throwing in two mono speakers just so they could initially advertise it as stereo speakers seems a bit counter-intuitive, when a single mono speaker with a more spacious enclosure could provide a better frequency response, albeit at a slightly lower volume (but on-par with other flagships). Maybe if they diverted the power output of the two mono channels into a single speaker and slapped a linear oscillating vibrator in place of one of the speakers...

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Take an OPO and an iPhone 6, place them next to each other, then play the same song from both phones. You'll find the iPhone 6 has more mids and lows compared to the OPO, which has an evident treble bias.

Heck, I wouldn't mind sacrificing 200-300 mAh off the battery for a more polished phone.
 
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soulsyphon

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i know OPO is a year old, but how is it doing when it comes to games? is it as powerful as nexus 6?

i'm in search for a phone... i don't really want htc or samsung... i'm also wondering if i should wait till OP2 instead

the lack of info on the OP2 makes waiting a long and painful experience.
 
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