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[ofarlig]

Honestly I am a bit disappointed with the the thickness, sure it is 1.5 mm thinner than a Fold 5 and slightly thinner than the Pixel Fold but that camera bump is really thick and covers almost half the phone and the measurement of thickness doesn’t include that.

 

[Awesomesince86]

The fact that OP is releasing a foldable with such a good form factor should just highlight how bad Samsung are doing at adapting and evolving their Fold lineup. It’s clear that the regular size phone outside is the preferred form factor for 99% of people, yet they persist with that narrow nightmare. With Samsungs level of hardware refinement and their superior fold centric software, they should easily have the best device in this market and now I would argue they’re third, regardless of sales numbers.

 

[Ludatyk]

The fact that OP is releasing a foldable with such a good form factor should just highlight how bad Samsung are doing at adapting and evolving their Fold lineup. It’s clear that the regular size phone outside is the preferred form factor for 99% of people, yet they persist with that narrow nightmare. With Samsungs level of hardware refinement and their superior fold centric software, they should easily have the best device in this market and now I would argue they’re third, regardless of sales numbers.

Now, I agree with you. Samsung should widen the outer (cover) display... but if you were to ask Fold users, I'd say the percentages those who favor the narrow display are more than you think.

It's no coincidence they have kept it this way... some people like the narrow display for one-handed use and the fact they can grab it easily with one hand while out in public. Samsung approach for the Galaxy Fold is quick interaction on the outer (cover) display... they implore users to use the inner display.

Imagine having a foldable and not take advantage of the inner display... while using the outer (cover) display more than 80% of the time. And if that's the case, should the user stick with a slab phone and not spend extra for the tablet experience? Because in most case, smartphone users own a tablet as well.

 

[Bkdodger]

Honestly I am a bit disappointed with the the thickness, sure it is 1.5 mm thinner than a Fold 5 and slightly thinner than the Pixel Fold but that camera bump is really thick and covers almost half the phone and the measurement of thickness doesn’t include that.

Yup that's my only down vote with the design..hopefully the camera performance justifies the circular camera ...if you use a case with it at least that hump won't be unstable when placing on desk ..

 

[Bkdodger]

QUOTE="Awesomesince86, post: 32648662, member: 1047054"]The fact that OP is releasing a foldable with such a good form factor should just highlight how bad Samsung are doing at adapting and evolving their Fold lineup. It’s clear that the regular size phone outside is the preferred form factor for 99% of people, yet they persist with that narrow nightmare. With Samsungs level of hardware refinement and their superior fold centric software, they should easily have the best device in this market and now I would argue they’re third, regardless of sales numbers.[/QUOTE]

Now, I agree with you. Samsung should widen the outer (cover) display... but if you were to ask Fold users, I'd say the percentages those who favor the narrow display are more than you think.

It's no coincidence they have kept it this way... some people like the narrow display for one-handed use and the fact they can grab it easily with one hand while out in public. Samsung approach for the Galaxy Fold is quick interaction on the outer (cover) display... they implore users to use the inner display.

Imagine having a foldable and not take advantage of the inner display... while using the outer (cover) display more than 80% of the time. And if that's the case, should the user stick with a slab phone and not spend extra for the tablet experience? Because in most case, smartphone users own a tablet as well.

I'm thinking about all those leaked prototype Samsung Fold leaks we saw as a good sign that the outer display will increase for Samsung Fold this upcoming year ....you will never make everyone happy but at the end of the day closer to regular phone while closed is the way to go ...

 

[Aneres11]

This looks like great hardware.
But as soon as it's turned on it looks like a Chinese iPhone knock off. So, nope.

But, if it means other manufacturers will look at their Fold hardware offerings and see that this is clearly the desired form factor (unless you're a Samsung apologist) then it's a win!

 

[Ludatyk]

I'm thinking about all those leaked prototype Samsung Fold leaks we saw as a good sign that the outer display will increase for Samsung Fold this upcoming year ....you will never make everyone happy but at the end of the day closer to regular phone while closed is the way to go ...

For sure, the outer (cover) display will increase next year... I'm already on board the Fold 6 preorder even with it not being announced yet lol.

My point is... the perception is 99% of Fold users prefer a much wider (cover) display and I don't think that's the case. Given Samsung track record, the amount of experimental devices they have given the public. They were the first to push foldables and phablets. Not Apple, not Google.

I'm just pointing out... if the data shows that the Galaxy Fold outer (cover) display should have been wider all along, you don't think they would have done it already.

 

[Bkdodger]

For sure, the outer (cover) display will increase next year... I'm already on board the Fold 6 preorder even with it not being announced yet lol.

My point is... the perception is 99% of Fold users prefer a much wider (cover) display and I don't think that's the case. Given Samsung track record, the amount of experimental devices they have given the public. They were the first to push foldables and phablets. Not Apple, not Google.

I'm just pointing out... if the data shows that the Galaxy Fold outer (cover) display should have been wider all along, you don't think they would have done it already.

I think it's a combination... I'm sure there are more people that like the narrow outside display than the numbers that got floated around so I agree on that part.. I also think Samsung didn't really have any competition in the US so there's some laziness as to their design as well... or maybe not laziness but they figured why mess with it so much let's concentrate on other improvements to it...but Fold 6 should see the change hopefully and if so make plenty of us happy ... OnePlus is a blessing for us in the US to hopefully push ahead ...

 

[aggie99]

There's a lot to like about this device. I don't think it's for me due to the lack of water resistance and wireless charging, but it is a fantastic looking device and I think it will push Samsung and Google to improve on their designs. For now, the Pixel Fold still checks all the boxes for me when I want to use a foldable. The camera is good and I have my 8 Pro for when I want a better camera but I'm excited to see how the camera is on the OPO. I think I'm sitting this one out but excited to see reviews and impressions from those of you that get one.

 

[Bkdodger]

A couple of camera views and points ...

 

[nfl46]

There's a lot to like about this device. I don't think it's for me due to the lack of water resistance and wireless charging, but it is a fantastic looking device and I think it will push Samsung and Google to improve on their designs. For now, the Pixel Fold still checks all the boxes for me when I want to use a foldable. The camera is good and I have my 8 Pro for when I want a better camera but I'm excited to see how the camera is on the OPO. I think I'm sitting this one out but excited to see reviews and impressions from those of you that get one.

What do y'all be doing with your phone to have water resistant as a major deal breaker? Lol.

I've seen quite a few people point out the two things the OPO doesn't have: wireless charging and IPX8 rating.

I honestly didn't think they were deal breakers for people especially with the insanely fast charging the OPO provides.

 

[aggie99]

What do y'all be doing with your phone to have water resistant as a major deal breaker? Lol.

I've seen quite a few people point out the two things the OPO doesn't have: wireless charging and IPX8 rating.

I honestly didn't think they were deal breakers for people especially with the insanely fast charging the OPO provides.

I do alot of things.

1. I own a construction company and am on jobsites quite frequently.
2. I spend alot of my time on my boat and have got my phone wet plenty of times.
3. I have a pool that I spend alot of time in, even in winter.
4. I have kids. Kids are known to spill things and mess things up that are around.
5. I like to drink beer. That tends to mess things up as well.
6. I go to the beach a few times a year
7. I coach kids' sports teams. I've had the ole gatorade shower a time or two.
8. I hunt alot and spend alot of time outdoor. Occasionally I have got caught out in the rain.
9. I ski alot in the winter. Nice to have peace of mind there as well.

I could go on and on. There's a reason water resistance became mainstream on flagship devices. Not everyone needs it but quite a few people do. The wireless charging is not necessarily a deal breaker but I have wireless chargers everywhere. In my truck, office, just about every room in my house. It sure is convenient to have.

 

[Ludatyk]

What do y'all be doing with your phone to have water resistant as a major deal breaker? Lol.

I've seen quite a few people point out the two things the OPO doesn't have: wireless charging and IPX8 rating.

I honestly didn't think they were deal breakers for people especially with the insanely fast charging the OPO provides.

I believe it's the peace of mind when going out to the beach or water park... they can carry their device and not worry about water damage.

And on the topic of wireless charging... it's the convenience factor. Being able to just place their phone on the wireless charger and go about their way.

 

[Achillias]

Incorrect I believe. The £99 is a deposit, it does not reduce the price by £99. It just means £99 less off the balance. Ie the price in the UK is still £1,599 - £250 = £1,350.

The £99 is a separate order that has already been paid. This amount is then deducted from the total costs of the telephone when completing the order, as you would otherwise pay twice. For example, I just had to pay €1450, while the phone is €1549.

 

[Achillias]

Just placed the order. There was no option to trade-in a device. Now we have to wait for delivery .

 

[dba415]

This looks like great hardware.
But as soon as it's turned on it looks like a Chinese iPhone knock off. So, nope.

But, if it means other manufacturers will look at their Fold hardware offerings and see that this is clearly the desired form factor (unless you're a Samsung apologist) then it's a win!

I was watching a couple reviews yesterday and found myself overall unimpressed despite the fact that it has great hardware. I couldn't really figure out why I wasn't excited about it but I think you hit the nail on the head, in all the vids I've seen the software looks unrefined. The phone looks better when it's closed and off lol.

 

[Ludatyk]

I was watching a couple reviews yesterday and found myself overall unimpressed despite the fact that it has great hardware. I couldn't really figure out why I wasn't excited about it but I think you hit the nail on the head, in all the vids I've seen the software looks unrefined. The phone looks better when it's closed and off lol.

What makes the software look unrefined? I think the software looks dope... of course, updates can help animations run much better. And maybe touch targets can be improved... all that can be contributed with updates to it.

But in general... I don't see much of an issue with the software as a whole. This one vid... where they mention the Recent Shortcuts how accessible OnePlus made it. Indicates how much thought they put into the tablet experience especially the canvas feature where users can interact with 3 windows in a unique way.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Now, I agree with you. Samsung should widen the outer (cover) display... but if you were to ask Fold users, I'd say the percentages those who favor the narrow display are more than you think.

It's no coincidence they have kept it this way... some people like the narrow display for one-handed use and the fact they can grab it easily with one hand while out in public. Samsung approach for the Galaxy Fold is quick interaction on the outer (cover) display... they implore users to use the inner display.

Imagine having a foldable and not take advantage of the inner display... while using the outer (cover) display more than 80% of the time. And if that's the case, should the user stick with a slab phone and not spend extra for the tablet experience? Because in most case, smartphone users own a tablet as well.

If you ask current Galaxy Fold owners…I’m sure a decent amount would vote to keep the narrow display. If you ask all people interested in a folding device and hand them the OP foldable and the GF5, I bet the votes would be overwhelmingly in favor of the OP.

Foldable phone adoption is not big. What’s the better way to get more people on board if you’re a company? Hand them a device that’s radically different both outside and inside than what they’re currently used to? Or give them a device that’s basically the same as what they currently use on the outside and a tablet on the inside?

As for this phone, I think OP could have made some real headway into the market here if they could’ve gotten the carriers onboard AND if the price was more around the $1400 mark. You can’t be a minor OEM, be missing features of rivals, and still come in at a similar price and expect things to go well unless you bring something special to the table. Still, it’s good to see more competition in this market. If only to give the big players, like Samsung, a kick in the ass to stop resting on previous accomplishments.

 

[blairh]

If you ask current Galaxy Fold owners…I’m sure a decent amount would vote to keep the narrow display. If you ask all people interested in a folding device and hand them the OP foldable and the GF5, I bet the votes would be overwhelmingly in favor of the OP.

Foldable phone adoption is not big. What’s the better way to get more people on board if you’re a company? Hand them a device that’s radically different both outside and inside than what they’re currently used to? Or give them a device that’s basically the same as what they currently use on the outside and a tablet on the inside?

As for this phone, I think OP could have made some real headway into the market here if they could’ve gotten the carriers onboard AND if the price was more around the $1400 mark. You can’t be a minor OEM, be missing features of rivals, and still come in at a similar price and expect things to go well unless you bring something special to the table. Still, it’s good to see more competition in this market. If only to give the big players, like Samsung, a kick in the ass to stop resting on previous accomplishments.

I'm confident the GF6 will end up looking a lot like the OPO. Brighter screens, a wider cover screen, a larger inner display.

Here in the States, the OPO will be niche as long as it isn't sold in carrier stores.

 

[The Game 161]

One area nobody else seems to be doing is different screens on inside and outside. Surprised it’s not more of a thing. Only Samsung seem to be doing this

 

[Ludatyk]

If you ask current Galaxy Fold owners…I’m sure a decent amount would vote to keep the narrow display. If you ask all people interested in a folding device and hand them the OP foldable and the GF5, I bet the votes would be overwhelmingly in favor of the OP.

Again, I'm not denying... that the Galaxy Fold outer display should be wider (I'm part of the group who wants it wider lol). I'm only debating your case that 99% of Fold owners desires a much wider outer display. You'll be surprised from Reddit or any Android centric site of how many people like the narrow outer display.

Foldable phone adoption is not big. What’s the better way to get more people on board if you’re a company? Hand them a device that’s radically different both outside and inside than what they’re currently used to? Or give them a device that’s basically the same as what they currently use on the outside and a tablet on the inside?

Obviously, I'll vote for the latter... the device that's the same on the outside and tablet on the inside. But in Samsung case, their method was to focus primarily on the inner display and outside display secondary which resulted in a narrow outer display.

As for this phone, I think OP could have made some real headway into the market here if they could’ve gotten the carriers onboard AND if the price was more around the $1400 mark. You can’t be a minor OEM, be missing features of rivals, and still come in at a similar price and expect things to go well unless you bring something special to the table. Still, it’s good to see more competition in this market. If only to give the big players, like Samsung, a kick in the ass to stop resting on previous accomplishments.

1000% percent, they are half stepping it. I don't see any listing through the major retailers in the US either... from Walmart, Target or Best Buy. I don't think OP can take a significant piece of the foldable market in the US... without the support of 3rd party resellers.

And I think Samsung will do better next year... I don't see why there should of been a big jump in improvement with the Fold 5. Apple and Google makes incremental improvements annually, why can't Samsung be apart of that mix too?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

One area nobody else seems to be doing is different screens on inside and outside. Surprised it’s not more of a thing. Only Samsung seem to be doing this

Yea, I noticed that too and that would be an annoyance for me, cause I've learned to like that about the Fold.

 

[tbayrgs]

While I agree about the Never Settle statement I'm wondering if Qi charging was a compromise due to battery health longevity or charging efficiency issues causing too much warmth.

I don't what wireless charging is on the Android landscape but in iOS on the iPhones its terrible - so much to the fact that this year Apple quitely discontinued their magsafe charging accessories and to be honest bbetween the iPhone 12 & 13 mini's MagSafe really killed battery health in less than 7mths between them from 100:83% just 1 % above their standard replacement under warranty threshold.

Wireless charging terrible on iOS? Exactly the opposite situation. Stop in an Apple store and there’s magsafe pucks on every single table and magsafe multidevice charging stands all over from partners like Belkin, Otterbox and Mophie. All the phones are displayed on what are essentially magsafe stands. The magsafe charging accessories they discontinued the magsafe battery and magsafe duo, but only because they both used lightning cables. I’ll wager you see usb-C versions out sometime in the next year.

What do y'all be doing with your phone to have water resistant as a major deal breaker? Lol.

I've seen quite a few people point out the two things the OPO doesn't have: wireless charging and IPX8 rating.

I honestly didn't think they were deal breakers for people especially with the insanely fast charging the OPO provides.

Wireless charging would be a deal breaker for me. I have magsafe or standard Qi chargers all over the house. My wife’s car has a wireless charging area. Heck, I stuck a magsafe style metal ring to my Pixel Fold case so that I could charge it wirelessly using any of my magsafe style wireless chargers.

Only time I ever plug in my phone is when I’m in my car (no wireless charger) and don’t even do that much of the time on short trips as I have wireless Apple CarPlay.

 

[zakarhino]

Kinda stunned to see Faizal Westcott got one from OnePlus to try out the cameras, I've been watching him for a while and he was the last person I expected to get a review unit. He's a great photographer-youtuber and if you want to see what this phone is capable of when taking RAW photos, I really suggest taking a look at this video. His photos from the Open are wayyy better than I thought they would be.

 

[The Game 161]

Again, I'm not denying... that the Galaxy Fold outer display should be wider (I'm part of the group who wants it wider lol). I'm only debating your case that 99% of Fold owners desires a much wider outer display. You'll be surprised from Reddit or any Android centric site of how many people like the narrow outer display.


Obviously, I'll vote for the latter... the device that's the same on the outside and tablet on the inside. But in Samsung case, their method was to focus primarily on the inner display and outside display secondary which resulted in a narrow outer display.


1000% percent, they are half stepping it. I don't see any listing through the major retailers in the US either... from Walmart, Target or Best Buy. I don't think OP can take a significant piece of the foldable market in the US... without the support of 3rd party resellers.

And I think Samsung will do better next year... I don't see why there should of been a big jump in improvement with the Fold 5. Apple and Google makes incremental improvements annually, why can't Samsung be apart of that mix too?

If Samsung make Z fold 6 wider like one plus open and make it thinner I’m sure people will think it’s perfect certainly if they get S pen inside the device or at least working on front display