Apple's market share is MUCH higher among younger populations. They will be the technology drivers in the coming decades. Even people I work with who are 30 are often too old to "get" macs and basically don't want to bother learning new tech. The young 20 year olds def get it though and will buy many computers in the future. Doesn't apple have the most loyal userbase by far among computer manufacturers? In this case, the 2-3% is more significant than it looks.
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Apple's market share is MUCH higher among younger populations. They will be the technology drivers in the coming decades. Even people I work with who are 30 are often too old to "get" macs and basically don't want to bother learning new tech. The young 20 year olds def get it though and will buy many computers in the future. Doesn't apple have the most loyal userbase by far among computer manufacturers? In this case, the 2-3% is more significant than it looks.
There are other tablet WiFi browsing devices, and they have much higher screen resolution than the iPhone.
Too bad Apple is such a control freak. Someone could do a nice LCARS theme. I started to do one for fun under iPhone Safari, but it's crippled as far as mouse movements (your finger) go... because the browser thinks you want to scroll around instead.
ST-TNG is a good example of why touchscreens won't take over, btw. Don't you just cringe each time they get hit by a blast, and the bridge crew stumbles around, grabbing ahold of any console they can? All those random control touches must cause tons of trouble
Never thought of an lcars theme, seems like every new app for the iphone follows the same pattern. They all look the same. You'd have to to add a few eventhandlers that trapped the motion and redirected it the way you wanted to, that will prevent the scrolling.
There is a nice lcars theme for the nokia 770 and that can be found at discount for 135.00.
Touch screens in the 24th century, not likely when in the next 20 years you will start seeing volumetric displays.
The orion block 1 (leo) and 2 (moon ship) reference designs have touch screen controls but also have more traditional switches as backup. A computer failure on the way to the moon could be very costly.
I won't tell you how old I am but its considerably more than 20,
and I own:
5 macs
- am a better hacker than most 20 year olds
- more up on technology than most, Knew about ajax and gwt when you guys thought it was somekind of cleaner.
- read 2 - 3 books from the safari site every couple months
And still have time for partying and cloths shopping, my second love after macs.
SO MAYBE YOU are just lazy.
Indifference rarely leads to sufficient motivation to prompt the reader to make the effort of writing a post. As such, what's your real motivation?
What you have with the AT&T report is a partial "truth". Given the context and how limited of a view it is, I hardly find the number to be low. Personally, I was pleasantly surprised that AT&T proved to be successful in processing more than 100K activations over that weekend, since it was relying on the brand new "via iTunes" activation process.
And while there was some 'hype' on the order of claims of 500K+ units sold the first week, you really need to take into account who was saying what and judge their credibility. From all that I saw, all of these crazy claims were coming from 3rd Party Outsiders who didn't have access to corporate data.
You misspelled "delighted." Granted, there have been some people who are very confused as to what the AT&T value really represents, because they don't recognize it as a subset of a subset of a subset (etc). However, simply not being good at Set Theory hardly means that they are 'fan boys'.
For meaningful clarity, it will have to wait the 3 months until the next fiscal quarter ends, barring some out-of-necessary-cycle announcment from someone.
Is this 10% of those who tried to activate, or of all units sold?
Don't forget your conditional branching:
Goto store --> wait in line --> buy product --> bring product home --> unpack product --> attach product to PC ---> run iTunes --> initiate activation --> activation successful --> activation success is logged --> etc
Color code:
Blue = the number people want to know
Red = the number that we have from AT&T
To build a proper model, you actually need to have the data ... or at least good estimated values ... for every single process step.
If its to be used in industry, then the business should pay for it. As such, you may very well end up like me, with two cellphones.
What was said was merely that hard numbers are better than estimates.
And yet you've got a problem with that. Care to explain?
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College students are more than willing to spend big bucks to increase productivity in their lives. Having a phone, email, to do lists, calendar, internet, and an IPOD!, all in one device is heaven for a college student. Think about all those students carrying their 200 dollar Blackjack, 300 dollar video ipod, and 2000 dollar Blackbook computer around all day with their college books (prices are estimated). Combine those products into one little device that can complete all the same tasks and I don't care how much it is, its sold to the generation that has the most expendible income in history. Yes, the iphone may not be the best at any one of these tasks yet, but that is what software updates are for
. Yes, I think we will see a price decrease or new product launch soon to attract more buyers but it will because apple is taking the next step in innovation and not because it is too expensive for college students. If the product adds enough value to someones life, and lightens up our backpack, its worth it.
So how do we get from 176,000 activated, 200,000 sold but only 1% of the people had activation issues?????
Which is correct, the first or the second lie?
Which is correct, the first or the second lie?
Want to generate more sales again? UPDATE the phone to include all the features it lacked at the launch. MMS, ringtones, disc ability, copy and paste... A lot of people waited a few days to see peoples reactions, and when they saw this phone is lacking some abilities that almost every other phone on the market has, they said "I'll wait."
Update it. Simple solution to more sales.
Update it. Simple solution to more sales.
They have larger screens. Not higher screen resolution. iPhone has a 160dpi screen resolution. You won't find anything that high on a PC. The PC market has enjoyed confusing consumers about screen resolution for many years.
OK lets settle this, if the iPhone ISNT a success, I will cut my private parts off.
You can hold me to that one
Some people are incredibly blind to how significant the iPhone is, but being an atheist im used to being in the minority of switched on humans.
You can hold me to that one
Some people are incredibly blind to how significant the iPhone is, but being an atheist im used to being in the minority of switched on humans.
They said the same thing about the iPod. Too expensive. And really, it is a lot to spend on a glorified walkman. But you can't argue with the numbers...
Please, tell me, which $599 windows laptop weighs less than 5 ounces and fits in your pocket? Extended typing might get tiresome on the iPhone, but so does carrying a 7 pound laptop and looking for a wall socket when the battery dies after 2 hours.
Know this: children of baby boomers are some of the most entitled consumers on the planet. If being able to afford something never meant anything to boomers, why would it matter to their children? Just use a credit card. Besides, as parents, the boomers would rather mortgage their soul(if they haven't already) than have their child drop in social status by not having an iPhone.
Sorry, but you're wrong. The Nokia 770 has a 4.3" screen at 800x480, so that is about 200dpi.
iPhone is a good product for what it is, I just think it's way overpriced. Anyway, during 2 hours on a laptop I'll be much more productive than on an iPhone with it's small screen and tiresome keyboard. It really doesn't matter to me if I can fit iPhone in my pocket when it's all said and done it's just not a productive device such as a laptop. It maybe useful for short emails/messages, or as an organizer and mp3 player, but I can do all those things with much cheaper cell phones. iPhones interface maybe top notch but it's not worth the price difference.
no my problem is people are screaming how far off those numbers are.
Yes of you list people want to know the blue. But the red numbers are not very easy to get a good count from. We can find out how many apple ship to the stories and it kind of ends their. The sold data after that point is difficult to get and quite often not able to be collected in a timely manner.
Now the red numbers are very easy to collect and as time goes on will be the best way to judge the number sold. Yes the number sold is higher but not by maybe more than 10% because almost everyone who buys the phone is going to try to activated it that night. Yes their would be a few who don't but by large it is them. But thinking the number is over 200k is well pure fan boy.
for figures for lets say the end of the 1st full quarter sold the activation numbers will be the best place the pull the data.
My issue is the fan boy part people have here because it makes all apple users look like a bunch of idiots if we can not accept the fact the number where over hyped and can not accept the fact something from apple did not do better than we thought.
Seriously, where are you getting your information? Some coffee house in Europe surrounded by goats?
US cell phone technology is behind "some" parts of the world because of a few things:
Competition. Unlike Europe, which mandated one technology, the US has more than one. This is partly because Europe had the "advantage" of being significantly BEHIND the US early on and was able to start with a clean slate and select from several more mature technologies. US companies had significant analog infrastructures and multiple companies (as in more than 10). They had cell technology rolled out (and had to pay for the investment) when people in Europe were excited just to have a plain telephone.
Size. The US is huge. It costs a lot of money to put up enough cell towers to provide 100% coverage. Italy is what, the size of Florida?
The US is not communist/socialist. Therefore, the US government does not heavily subsidize cellular infrastructure. Nor does it pay for broadband buildout or have a national airline.
And Enron? Seriously?
Wake me up when Italy becomes a first world country.
Actually, it isn't overpriced. Compare it to an unlocked Blackjack, Blackberry, Motorola Q, Nokia smartphone, LG Prada, whatever. The iPhone is very competitively priced.
Whether you find it affordable is a completely different story.
Comparing what you can get done on a cell phone compared to a laptop is ludicrous. You can get a lot more DNA sequencing, CAD design, or video editing done on a desktop compared to a laptop. So what.
We get it. You either don't like the iPhone or don't find it affordable. Feel free to rationalize it all you want.
Thanks for jumping in. Ditto for the Archos 605:
Archos 605
Some see the word "tablet" and always think "Microsoft". We were, of course, talking about consumer WiFi internet tablets.
Might as well throw in a phone as well, like the G900:
Toshiba G900 Phone
The iPhone shows less than half as much of a web page at one time, as the above do in about the same screen area.
I think that is a hell of a point. I have never been to Europe but I hear it would probably take you a little more than 15 hrs to cross all of Europe. In the span of 14 hrs here in the USA you just crossed the state of Texas! Size is a huge factor.
But on a serious note, the US culture simply didnt click with mobile phones until very late. Whereas the EU embraced it, as did Asia. And judging by some of the people on here, some of you still dont 'get it'.
Kind of like European women haven't quite embraced shaving and most europeans in general haven't enbraced bathing.
Yes, but im english we dont get hairy women, you have to swim the channel to see prehistoric females.
From Brest, France to Samara, Russia (just as an example) 2,353 miles (3,787km). New York, NY to San Francisco, CA 2,567 (4,130km). Please don't play the dumb.
American (I can say that because I'm an American).
As a Mac fan - I can't hear iPhone anymore and I really don't care about the numbers. If I just think about that the Mac Pro hasn't seen an update for a year ...dsds