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Holy crap! Where the heck did you get that number??! They don't even come close to making 500 bucks on each phone sold. You think it cost 100 bucks to make the thing? You're crazier than iSuppli!
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Only 146,000 iPhone activations Opening Weekend
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Holy crap! Where the heck did you get that number??! They don't even come close to making 500 bucks on each phone sold. You think it cost 100 bucks to make the thing? You're crazier than iSuppli!
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146k is a slap in the face by reality to the hypesters. It's no surprise to me that a crippled product has flawed numbers. Regular people like me are holding out for the one that actually works without a reality distortion field.
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146k is a slap in the face by reality to the hypesters. It's no surprise to me that a crippled product has flawed numbers. Regular people like me are holding out for the one that actually works without a reality distortion field.
Apologies if this has already been said but I do not think the 146k represents the number of phones that ATT sold at their stores on Friday and Saturday and does not take into account the number of phones sold at Apple stores or the number of phones sold for the entire first weekend.
Not to mention why should anyone care how many phones were purchased. The sales figures have nothing to do with the satisfaction that I have had with mine since I purchased it.
Not to mention why should anyone care how many phones were purchased. The sales figures have nothing to do with the satisfaction that I have had with mine since I purchased it.
you guys sure like numbers!
I really hope Apple will tell the 'exact' number of iPhones sold tomorrow...
For probably the first week of sales, I saw iPhones being sold heavily on ebay. Every minute or couple of minutes another auction would end, and this went on for 24 hrs a day. So it *seemed* like a ton. However now that I do the math, if a different auction for an iPhone ended every 60 seconds, that is still only 10,000 worth of units, assuming this went on for a week or so. Of course there are buy it now's, etc. But I had heard a good portion of the early buyers bought 2 phones. Even if only half of the buyers bought 2 phones, that is still a lot that got disposed of somewhere, or given as a gift, etc.
Wow, the weirdos have come out of the woodwork
OK, seems the anti-Apple/AT&T weirdos have really come out of the woodwork on this one.
I _did_ have an "activation issue" porting my number over from Sprint, and I think I would not show up on this number, event hough I was waiting on line and bought two units Friday. The second one (for my boss) wouldn't show up either, he activated later.
We are representative of, I would think, the MAJORITY of buyers. When you port a phone number, it can easily take a day or two to go through. Do you really want your phone number to be up in the air Friday evening before you hit the town? Are you even going to bother to activate that weekend? I bet MOST people did not.
I also think, probably, that the number of people who had to wait 1-2 days for their numbers to properly get ported, or experienced other activation delays, was WAY higher than 2%. Like maybe 10-20 percent.
Others have mentioned online orders, people holding them for friends, for resale, to give away as gifts, etc. etc. etc.
My guess is 250,000 units sold Friday-Sunday is VERY conservative, when all purchases in that timeframe are taken into account.
And for the record, the iPhone is pretty awesome, I have been LOVING mine, I would go so far as to say it has exceeded my expectations.
OK, seems the anti-Apple/AT&T weirdos have really come out of the woodwork on this one.
I _did_ have an "activation issue" porting my number over from Sprint, and I think I would not show up on this number, event hough I was waiting on line and bought two units Friday. The second one (for my boss) wouldn't show up either, he activated later.
We are representative of, I would think, the MAJORITY of buyers. When you port a phone number, it can easily take a day or two to go through. Do you really want your phone number to be up in the air Friday evening before you hit the town? Are you even going to bother to activate that weekend? I bet MOST people did not.
I also think, probably, that the number of people who had to wait 1-2 days for their numbers to properly get ported, or experienced other activation delays, was WAY higher than 2%. Like maybe 10-20 percent.
Others have mentioned online orders, people holding them for friends, for resale, to give away as gifts, etc. etc. etc.
My guess is 250,000 units sold Friday-Sunday is VERY conservative, when all purchases in that timeframe are taken into account.
And for the record, the iPhone is pretty awesome, I have been LOVING mine, I would go so far as to say it has exceeded my expectations.
The majority of 29,346 other wireless customers seem to disagree with you (in regards to wireless call quality).
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2007040
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Wish I'd been awake this morning to catch more AAPL at 136. It's now back to around 140.
Are any more analysts going to be fired over this?
I find it hard to believe a significant number of people who got iPhones in the first couple of days didn't do exactly what I did and activate their phone ASAP.
And how much can AT&T really get away with fudging the percent of people who had activation problems. They say 2%. If they were as far off as analysts, it would still be just 4%-6%.
I find it hard to believe a significant number of people who got iPhones in the first couple of days didn't do exactly what I did and activate their phone ASAP.
And how much can AT&T really get away with fudging the percent of people who had activation problems. They say 2%. If they were as far off as analysts, it would still be just 4%-6%.
As I said, I'm pointing out the news that many think is hurting Apple stock most:
http://communities.canada.com/natio...ares-down-concrete-results-out-wednesday.aspx
And it's hard to sell unavailable phones
True.
The hype around the iPod happened when you show yours to someone who never saw/used one before. Then, since it still "only" $100/$300 per unit, most of the people who felt in love with it could afford one.
This is clearly not the case with the iPhone. It's way more expensive, not available outside the US and not that useful for Mr. Joe... I mean the cellphone capabilities yes but the email, mms, wifi, web, widgets are probably not, at least not for $500.
You know...I love Apple products...I love the Mac...but please....
STOP WITH THE 'EFFING iPHONE ARTICLES ALREADY!!!!
146,000 iPhone activations Opening Weekend - no one cares! It's out. It sold well. Enough!
Will there be any Mac articles here on MacRumors anymore?
STOP WITH THE 'EFFING iPHONE ARTICLES ALREADY!!!!
146,000 iPhone activations Opening Weekend - no one cares! It's out. It sold well. Enough!
Will there be any Mac articles here on MacRumors anymore?
You know...I love Apple products...I love the Mac...but please....
STOP WITH THE 'EFFING iPHONE ARTICLES ALREADY!!!!
146,000 iPhone activations Opening Weekend - no one cares! It's out. It sold well. Enough!
Will there be any Mac articles here on MacRumors anymore?
Obviously someone cares, or AAPL wouldn't have spiked low this morning. If you are using "Forum Spy", you can simply turn off iPhone related forums.
this is silly,
i got an iphone that weekend given to me as a present, didn't activate it until monday. after i came home and got it as a present.
my bet is that a good percentage of people buying phone didn't activate immediately, maybe had a few days delay.
also, some were being sold on ebay and more. those units would definitely be delayed activated.
so, my thoughts are that sales numbers should be based on first month sales and activations, not the first 2 days. hell, even a weekly basis.
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i got an iphone that weekend given to me as a present, didn't activate it until monday. after i came home and got it as a present.
my bet is that a good percentage of people buying phone didn't activate immediately, maybe had a few days delay.
also, some were being sold on ebay and more. those units would definitely be delayed activated.
so, my thoughts are that sales numbers should be based on first month sales and activations, not the first 2 days. hell, even a weekly basis.
M
You know...I love Apple products...I love the Mac...but please....
STOP WITH THE 'EFFING iPHONE ARTICLES ALREADY!!!!
146,000 iPhone activations Opening Weekend - no one cares! It's out. It sold well. Enough!
Will there be any Mac articles here on MacRumors anymore?
isn't this in the iPhone forum?
Online Orders
What about the online orders on the Apple Store? Obviously these were not included in this number. However I believe that online orders don't count unless shipped. But its something to think about.
What about the online orders on the Apple Store? Obviously these were not included in this number. However I believe that online orders don't count unless shipped. But its something to think about.
Actual iPhones Sold!
1. These numbers are only for the last weekend of the month people!
2. AT&T had fewer iPhones than the Apple Stores.
3. Most Apple Stores SOLD OUT of their phones!
So giving any guess as to how many were sold would be WRONG! Even today as I check Apple Stores in each state, most are out of iPhones......
I love how we Apple Fans just bitch and bitch about ANYTHING APPLE. Next are we going to complain that Apple no longer has the rainbow logo???
1. These numbers are only for the last weekend of the month people!
2. AT&T had fewer iPhones than the Apple Stores.
3. Most Apple Stores SOLD OUT of their phones!
So giving any guess as to how many were sold would be WRONG! Even today as I check Apple Stores in each state, most are out of iPhones......
I love how we Apple Fans just bitch and bitch about ANYTHING APPLE. Next are we going to complain that Apple no longer has the rainbow logo???
Ummm, compared to what?!?!
Why is everyone freaking out (haters, fanboys and all in between)? Yes the number is lower than analysts expected for sales (of course this is not a sales number either) but even if it was the real sales number it's still damn respectable.
I think everyone here is forgetting another very significant AT&T report released just a little while ago. They specifically stated the iPhone sold more in it's opening weekend than ANY OTHER PHONE has sold in an ENTIRE MONTH. I don't know figures since I don't normally research mobile phone sales but 2.5 days sales being more than a month sales of other phones I'd say is beyond awesome no matter what the numbers.
Sales figures have to be looked at relatively people.
p.s. Sorry if the bold and capitalization irritates anyone, just frustrated with all this silliness.
Why is everyone freaking out (haters, fanboys and all in between)? Yes the number is lower than analysts expected for sales (of course this is not a sales number either) but even if it was the real sales number it's still damn respectable.
I think everyone here is forgetting another very significant AT&T report released just a little while ago. They specifically stated the iPhone sold more in it's opening weekend than ANY OTHER PHONE has sold in an ENTIRE MONTH. I don't know figures since I don't normally research mobile phone sales but 2.5 days sales being more than a month sales of other phones I'd say is beyond awesome no matter what the numbers.
Sales figures have to be looked at relatively people.
p.s. Sorry if the bold and capitalization irritates anyone, just frustrated with all this silliness.
He's saying that the iPhone costs $300 to make, not $100. Profit = $600 sales price - $300 cost + $200 from at&t, for $500 total.