Google Gemini and Claude-3-Opus cannot do what I saw today from Open AI! Nowhere near it! Vision, text, and sound and speech comprehension all at the same time in real time!
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Google Gemini and Claude-3-Opus cannot do what I saw today from Open AI! Nowhere near it! Vision, text, and sound and speech comprehension all at the same time in real time!
I use Siri on rare occasion to turn offs all lights, otherwise she is meh
If she gets smarter, maybe but that has to be seen 😊
Yea but the tech wasn't even close to available back then when Apple acquired Siri from SRI international in 2010
Why do you keep talking about Siri?
Also, at this very moment, if OpenAI restricted their software to hardware they came out with by themselves, people would stop caring about their software
Also, I am under no illusions that the smartphone is invincible, obviously it might be replaced.
But it’s certainly not going to be replaced with any type of AI gadget that you can only interact with with your voice, or that is just a tiny phone like the rabbit.
The AI devices being described here are nothing but dumb stripped phones, that is not what’s going to replace the smartphone.
If Ive and Sam are cooking up some type of smart glasses that not only are as powerful as a smartphone, but are as easy to communicate with other people as a smart phone, as easy to consume content as a smart phone, have battery life that is comparable to a smart phone and are priced around the same as a smartphone, then maybe Apple should feel threatened.
But obviously, that’s not what they are doing.
Moving the iOS app to a Mac app would be a pretty easy change for them, not a big lift.
The thing that makes a smartphone so compelling is that it is so many things in one.
An iPod, a phone, an Internet communicator, a gaming machine, a video viewer, a banking portal, an alarm clock, and yes, an AI assistant, sorta.
Any AI gadget misses that, it’s basically like trying to take the smartphone and split it back up into several different gadgets.
And no one wants that, no one wants to carry around another thing.
People really need to watch MKBHD’s Pin and Rabbit reviews again, because they are completely missing the point.
His point was not that those two things as individual gadgets sucked, even though they did.
His point was that it was literally taking something that works just fine on a smart phone, and trying to split it off into its own device, despite the fact that the phone is more powerful, easier to use, and ALLREADY EXISTS!
The AI device that everyone is clamoring for here… Already exists.
And no, I am obviously not talking about Siri specifically.
The smartphone, not just the iPhone, but any phone made by any company, can do these AI tasks just as well as a dedicated device.
Better in fact, because it’s already with you.
An iPod, a phone, an Internet communicator, a gaming machine, a video viewer, a banking portal, an alarm clock, and yes, an AI assistant, sorta.
Any AI gadget misses that, it’s basically like trying to take the smartphone and split it back up into several different gadgets.
And no one wants that, no one wants to carry around another thing.
People really need to watch MKBHD’s Pin and Rabbit reviews again, because they are completely missing the point.
His point was not that those two things as individual gadgets sucked, even though they did.
His point was that it was literally taking something that works just fine on a smart phone, and trying to split it off into its own device, despite the fact that the phone is more powerful, easier to use, and ALLREADY EXISTS!
The AI device that everyone is clamoring for here… Already exists.
And no, I am obviously not talking about Siri specifically.
The smartphone, not just the iPhone, but any phone made by any company, can do these AI tasks just as well as a dedicated device.
Better in fact, because it’s already with you.
It's not about being doomed so much as the potential for them to no longer the preeminent tech company in the U.S. Apple isn't likely going under anytime soon.
Because that's the most probable way Apple continues to refer to their on-device AI...
Says who? Such a device could be as revolutionary as the iPhone was.
You saying that a device from OpenAI only being allowed to run the latest ChatGPT would have people stop caring about their software actually shows that you do have that view. The smartphone isn't personal tech's final form.
Exactly, some kind of glasses device will likely surpass the smartphone eventually. People still won't care if OpenAI launches something like that? How do you know what OpenAI or any other company may be working on? You don't. Just because Apple spent their resources working on an overpriced VR headset doesn't mean other companies weren't working on a different kind of tech that could take over a lot of what smartphones do today.
The AI Pin couldn't do well the only thing it's supposed to do: AI. It's slow and is siloed away from all of your personal data and use. It should've been a smartphone accessory.
OpenAI is demonstrably much farther ahead. It's also important that you can type in settings where you'd rather not have a spoken conversation, so a Jony Ive designed openAI device will probably look a lot like a smartphone, built on a GPT foundation.
The smartphone format is unlikely going anywhere, but it'll increasingly be augmented by devices that are more portable and frankly, healthier to use. The amount of screen time people consume these days is not healthy – we all know the feeling of getting sucked into our phones for hours after just checking the time or a notification.
In Apple's case, they're well positioned with the Apple Watch which has far less potential for this time suck and is perfectly suited to a built-in conversational LLM. It can fill the role the AI pin was going after, but Apple needs to catch up real fast to what openAI has accomplished here.
The long term concern is that Tim Cook blew a decade head start after Steve Jobs' final major acquisition before his death: Siri. Just as Steve Jobs saw a mouse prototype and GUI at Xerox that they didnt know what to do with, and Jobs immediately licensed it and changed how computers were used, then did the same with multi-touch and transformed the world with iPhone, he knew what he was doing with the Siri acquisition. Tim Cook is a fantastic CEO, but he's not a visionary, and openAI is looking a lot like early Apple right now. I got my fingers crossed for a major turnaround for Siri at WWDC.
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That’s pretty cute. I for one won’t be too happy about “the future” being filled to the brim with false data, plagiarism, and outright intellectual property theft. Guess that’s something to get used to. 🤣
I have no idea what they might be working on, but I do know that technology to have a transparent display that’s just as bright and sharp as today’s smartphones, that can be powered by a battery for an entire day, that only costs $1000 or so simply does not exist in 2024.
People have their expectations way too high on this stuff.
Send my data to Altman’s ClosedAI and tell them what I’m working on every day?
No fat chance.
It’s another Zuckerberg style spy agency and none of them should have this much data.
Free my ass. This **** costs more money than any search engine and consumes a country worth of energy. You will be their product.
No fat chance.
It’s another Zuckerberg style spy agency and none of them should have this much data.
Free my ass. This **** costs more money than any search engine and consumes a country worth of energy. You will be their product.
Um...no. The technology to do this was not available in 2011.
I think it's amazing the number of people who think they and their little lives are actually important enough for anyone to actually care about... LOL
Sure if you are running a country, or have your finger on the nuclear button, but 99.999999% of people are basically just uninteresting no-bodies as far as anyone important is concerned.
In a way I'd actually feel pretty flattered if a country was trying to collect detailed data about me! LOL.
It doesn’t have to be able to do every single thing better than a smartphone does. It just needs to be a valuable tool for people to use. Remember when people complained about smartphones needing to be charged every day when their dumb phone would go three days on a charge? People were willing to forgo longer battery life because the smartphone’s other features were much better. Remember when other phones could record video, but the first two iPhones could not? People were willing to forgo video recording because of the iPhone’s other features. Something can absolutely come to market that doesn’t beat a smartphone in every metric but is still deemed too useful not to have. Even if such a device doesn’t completely replace a smartphone for most people, a sufficient device may continue to chip away at things people go to their smartphone for. People didn’t used to do most of their banking from their smartphones either, but many people do now. Smartphones can easily be relegated to a similar position that laptops and desktops are in now. Only used when someone can’t do something on their AI device.
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Still don’t see how any of this is Artificial INTELLIGENCE. Everything I tried so far just seems to be improved automations and command lines. I have yet to see AI inventing anything on its own. Hey AI, come up with some new battery technology because our own solutions suck. At the very least it should find solutions to problems I don’t even know I have yet before I encounter them, not just react to what I tell it to do
