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Seems unlikely given that Microsoft owns half of OpenAI.
As I understand, they don’t own any of OpenAI, it’s just an agreement
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I wonder how long before this voice assistant can run on device instead of the cloud. Using Whisper AI for dictation locally already works well on any recent Mac, even the base spec ones.
 
Still don’t see how any of this is Artificial INTELLIGENCE. Everything I tried so far just seems to be improved automations and command lines. I have yet to see AI inventing anything on its own. Hey AI, come up with some new battery technology because our own solutions suck. At the very least it should find solutions to problems I don’t even know I have yet before I encounter them, not just react to what I tell it to do
Most intelligent animals (including humans) have quite low ratio of inventions. AI is faking intelligence according to Turing, and all "enhanced" Turing tests and current AI is quite good a faking human behaviour being a computer.
 
I take it this app-to-be has nothing to do with the "ChatGPT" app I already have running on my Mac. I suppose it will be much better?
 
Speech doesn’t require Plus for it to work. It’s certainly impressive in its responses, but gets answers wrong. However, the interaction with it is so good, it really shames Apple in their decade+ work on Siri
 
What about 'information collapse' when it's eating its own output as its source data? No new information and hugely error-prone?
 
That’s pretty cute. I for one won’t be too happy about “the future” being filled to the brim with false data, plagiarism, and outright intellectual property theft. Guess that’s something to get used to. 🤣

People said the same thing about the internet. They’re weren’t ’wrong’ but it’s also so much more and not just that. People were saying similar things for the printing press, photography, radio and television.
 
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No different than Google processing search queries from an iPhone. Apple's approach will use its own local LLM for local inquiries involving your data (your photos, calendar, email, messages, notes, contacts, location), while anything beyond that, that requires information available on the internet or a very large dataset, will farm openAI or Google's Gemini to do the search for you on behalf of Siri which will then take what's sent to it and return to local processing.

Apple has published papers on how its approach will maintain privacy and I'm thoroughly convinced it can be accomplished this way with little to no loss of data fidelity or speed.
I really hope you’re right. It would be so awesome!
 
Pretty clear this means OpenAI declined Apple's offers to integrate and are instead forging their own separate path.
There has been an iOS ChatpGPT app for a while now. This is just extending their tech (and subscriptions) to another platform.
 
What about the joint venture of Sama with Ive? Maybe OpenAI can ride Apple until they have their own device and Apple can ride OpenAI until they have something in-house?
 
I think I will give it a miss and the next major update of macOS if that is full of AI stuff.
 
You don't have to use it if you'd like to remain a Luddite.
Just because they don't want it on their computer, don't mean they are a Luddite. One of the reasons I dumped windows was because iof the way it was integrating A.I. into everything.
But I am no Luddite, I have a load of Echo dots in the house, a load of smart home stuff, like Philips Hue, smartplugs, smart thermostat and switchbots, plus other things.
I just don't require, need or want AI stuff on my computer, or my phone for that matter, not that it will come to my old Android phone i doubt.
 
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Innovation!!! Reminds me of DJI, no one can copy them as they are always 10 steps ahead. Apple, Google and Facebook are left far behind with AI. Siri lol
 
if they giving it away for free, how they make money?
By absorbing new training data from everyone using it so they can then sell it to businesses.

Put another way, get people to give them the data they need to make it profitable.

The basic business model of the web for the last few decades.
 
Still don’t see how any of this is Artificial INTELLIGENCE. Everything I tried so far just seems to be improved automations and command lines. I have yet to see AI inventing anything on its own. Hey AI, come up with some new battery technology because our own solutions suck. At the very least it should find solutions to problems I don’t even know I have yet before I encounter them, not just react to what I tell it to do

AI has already done that where humans have failed, check out AlphaFold 3!

 
Of course laptops and desktops aren't going anywhere. However, smartphones have firmly supplanted them as the most important piece of tech in people's lives. Nothing is stopping a new type of device from doing that to smartphones as well. TV's didn't disappear with the advent of computers either. But the smartphone could be relegated to a similarly "dumb" screen, largely only used for content consumption. (Also ask the TV manufacturers how little money they make on those dumb screens.) Why use my smartphone to manually do something like make a bank transfer when I could simply ask my AI device to do it for me, while I continue watching a YouTube video on my smartphone?
I know it's just one example but I would not let my AI do a bank transfer and just walk away. That's the kind of thing I like to get confirmation for. Visually.
 
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The Luddites were among the most heroic protest movements in history who were given a bad name by the oligarchs of the time.

You aren't fit to wear their shoes if you are licking ClosedAI's boots.
You know, you could simply read what I said using the dictionary definition of the word, as was intended, and you wouldn’t be so confused.

Luddite refers to someone who is opposed to change, and especially to technological change.”


Not sure why your strange conclusion was that I was calling someone a 19th century laborer protesting against textile machines…
 
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I wonder how long before this voice assistant can run on device instead of the cloud. Using Whisper AI for dictation locally already works well on any recent Mac, even the base spec ones.
I've got ollama and llama3 running locally, it's really dumb and delusional compared to GPT-4. Most people are probably not going to be able to run a GPT-4 level AI locally any time soon, just because it's not feasible... it would require a computer with a ton of GPUs and would use too much power. And as hardware becomes cheaper and more powerful for AI, the cloud versions are always going to be significantly better for all the same reasons.
 
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