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I really like Chat-GPT, but I definitely think Siri shouldn’t be like it. Siri needs to improve a lot, but I think the main voice assistant of your phone should (almost) never provide an incorrect answer, or provide a simple, closed answer to complex and subjective questions. Once again, I really like Chat-GPT, but each service has its place, and the ChatGPT business model is not aligned with Apple’s expertise and culture.
I don't understand. chatgpt can provide a simple closed answer to complex and subjective questions.
 
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Yea but the tech wasn't even close to available back then when Apple acquired Siri from SRI international in 2010

Um...no. The technology to do this was not available in 2011.


sounds like apple shouldn't have acquired Siri.

apple has always waited until they were almost too late to implement things because they want to implement it the right way.
 
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Even on their website, OpenAI buries the release information down near the bottom. Apparently today ChatGPT 4o is rolling out only to an extended "red team", and after that it will be rolled out incrementally to all, no date is given.
Check your Chatgpt app, mine already has 4o as an option.
 
ChatGPT is like hanging out with a drunk person who speaks too fast and tells the Department of Defense everything you said.
 
How naive to not realise that everything you do, view, where you go etc is all worth money to marketing, government groups. To know and manipulate how people think is a tremendous power. Becomes a hell of a lot easier when you control the content and answers in an LLM.
Well, I can tell you they are 100% wasting their time investing their energy into attempting to promote goods and services to me ;)
 
People said the same thing about the internet. They’re weren’t ’wrong’ but it’s also so much more and not just that. People were saying similar things for the printing press, photography, radio and television.
That’s just totally and completely false. Acting like this is some “if men were meant to fly, they’d have been born with wings” thing is so disingenuous.

The difference here is that all of the above things were capable of producing something from nothing, or original content. They’re capable of serving as an avenue for people to create their own original artworks.

AI is solely built from data from existing sources. It does not create anything original that doesn’t draw on someone else’s work on some way, shape, or form. It is king plagiarizer that is used by lazy and talentless people who were incapable of creating without this special tool.
 
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That’s just totally and completely false. Acting like this is some “if men were meant to fly, they’d have been born with wings” thing is so disingenuous.

The difference here is that all of the above things were capable of producing something from nothing, or original content. They’re capable of serving as an avenue for people to create their own original artworks.

AI is solely built from data from existing sources. It does not create anything original that doesn’t draw on someone else’s work on some way, shape, or form. It is king plagiarizer that is used by lazy and talentless people who were incapable of creating without this special tool.

In an era of fake people you stand out by being more real.
 
The demos from the ChatGPT 40 announcement were quite impressive.

It’s almost as if they use the movie, ‘Her’ as their goalpost.
 

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I've tried various LLMs. I have yet to see a real world use case for me. I can ask it questions, and then it gives me some kind of textual answer that is formulaic, uninformative, and that's when it isn't wrong.
 
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Actually, one area I hope LLM will really help is with better language translation and teaching. My wife is Chinese. She speaks English pretty well, but has a much harder time reading English. We frequently use Google's translation app, and WeChat translation, both of which are fair to good, but not great. Maybe once ChatGPT is fully integrated into MacOS and iOS, Apple will be able to find ways to dramatically improve its translation capabilities, including translation on the fly through dictation (which is fiddly right now).
 
That’s just totally and completely false. Acting like this is some “if men were meant to fly, they’d have been born with wings” thing is so disingenuous.

The difference here is that all of the above things were capable of producing something from nothing, or original content. They’re capable of serving as an avenue for people to create their own original artworks.

AI is solely built from data from existing sources. It does not create anything original that doesn’t draw on someone else’s work on some way, shape, or form. It is king plagiarizer that is used by lazy and talentless people who were incapable of creating without this special tool.

You completely ignore that human-generated things like scientific knowledge and art often build on things that came before. On the shoulders of giants, as it were. Even a reaction counter to existing art is still building on what came before it, just in a different way.
 
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It can be found…however, it won’t launch unless you have an account that has the “app” functionality enabled.
Found where? It's supposed to be enabled for all Plus subscribers now. Where is this "Coming Soon" thing? I don't even see that anywhere, I see nothing. I am a Plus subscriber, and I keep logging in and out, and looking everywhere. Nothing.
 
Found where? It's supposed to be enabled for all Plus subscribers now. Where is this "Coming Soon" thing? I don't even see that anywhere, I see nothing. I am a Plus subscriber, and I keep logging in and out, and looking everywhere. Nothing.
Same here. I do have access to ChatGPT-4o though. But it's lacking self-awareness: when I ask it what ChatGPT-4o is, it tells me it doesn't know that version. ;)
 
You completely ignore that human-generated things like scientific knowledge

People didn't "generate" scientific knowledge. Science is an exploration of nature. Physics and math are discovered, not generated or invented.

The term 'human-generated' is very uncomfortable. Are you an alien species or a self-proclaimed god who addresses humanity in the third person? If not, then address your species correctly. Say people, don't say human.

and art often build on things that came before.

The arts are usually an expression of how a person or culture feels about the world around them. Artists do borrow from each other, but they do so freely and hopefully with acknowledgement. Often there is a patron-apprentice relationship when artist skills and styles are passed on from person to person.

Look, it's OK to admit that these corporations are plagiarising content and trying to monetise all the material they scanned form the internet. Just be honest about it instead of fraudulently claiming that their Nvidia GPU farms are the same as living breathing people.

When you say living people and machines are equivalent you are kinda saying it's ok to just switch people off and discard them like a burnt out server. In other words, it's like saying murder is totally ok. That's a road you don't want to go down. People are not like hardware or computers. We do not live in a simulation either.
 
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Same here. I do have access to ChatGPT-4o though. But it's lacking self-awareness: when I ask it what ChatGPT-4o is, it tells me it doesn't know that version. ;)
Yes, everyone has access to 4o since yesterday I believe. But people keep saying the Mac App is out (AppleInsider even falsely said it's on the App Store now)... but it seems like only some people can download it somehow through the OpenAi website but most can't... even though they said it was available to all Plus users.

ChatGPT has never known what version it is. It's a pointless question to ask it. I believe because the training data doesn't know about something that didn't exist yet.
 
Microsoft holds 49 percent equity in OpenAI. Not going to happen.
Microsoft doesn't own any of OpenAI, they only have a partnership with them that gives them a large chunk of their profits. They have no say in what OpenAI does.
 
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If there was ever a purchase to make…probably have some regulatory issues.
OpenAI would never sell itself to a company like Apple, and I doubt Apple would even try to buy them. It would be a very dumb self-defeating move like Apple buying ARM would have been... another thing they passed up on for being a terrible idea. Sometimes owning and controlling something isn't so advantageous to you.
 
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Microsoft doesn't own any of OpenAI, they only have a partnership with them that gives them a large chunk of their profits. They have no say in what OpenAI does.
Thank you for the clarification. I found the following on the web.

"While our partnership with Microsoft includes a multibillion dollar investment, OpenAI remains an entirely independent company governed by the OpenAI Nonprofit. Microsoft is a non-voting board observer and has no control."
 
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