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justperry

macrumors G5
Aug 10, 2007
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I'm a rolling stone.
It's actually ridiculous apps don't work after an update, I remember the good times when updating to the next OS X version would not be any problem except for old hardware, now apps just break with every major update (10.10- to 10.11 for instance). Those good old days are gone sadly!
 

kappaknight

macrumors 68000
Mar 5, 2009
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91
Atlanta, GA
It's actually ridiculous apps don't work after an update, I remember the good times when updating to the next OS X version would not be any problem except for old hardware, now apps just break with every major update (10.10- to 10.11 for instance). Those good old days are gone sadly!

To be fair, Linux add-ons have been randomly breaking apps and websites for awhile now if you keep upgrading them to the latest versions.
 

freeskier93

macrumors 6502
Jul 13, 2008
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It's actually ridiculous apps don't work after an update, I remember the good times when updating to the next OS X version would not be any problem except for old hardware, now apps just break with every major update (10.10- to 10.11 for instance). Those good old days are gone sadly!

Seriously? This isn't "just an update", you're going from a public release to a very early beta release. Of course apps will be broken! The whole point of a beta/developer preview is so developers can test their apps and fix them BEFORE the public release.
 

treimche

macrumors regular
Jun 16, 2012
145
48
Could someone else confirm if Quickbooks 2014 works?
Quickbooks 2014 does not work for me. I can get the program to open, but once I click on anything it crashes instantly. I use QB for my business on this laptop and definitely shouldn't have downloaded the El Capitan beta. Oops.
 

haddy

macrumors 6502a
Nov 5, 2012
543
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NZ
Don't mean to get you off topic here but I don't want to open another thread. I have a backup via timemachine but I want to know if and what VPN's are working with OS X EL Capitan?
Well....I use vyprvpn (Golden Frog) and it works the same as it does in 10.10...which is just fine.
 

nikmatt

macrumors newbie
Apr 14, 2013
15
6
Orlando, FL
I'm downloading the public beta right now (I hadn't been checking my email as diligently as I should be the last week or so and got to it a bit late), so I'm curious: Has anyone had any trouble with Ableton Live? It's not mentioned in the initial post and I searched the thread and it returned no results, so I figured it would be a good idea to ask. I know it was quite the pain in the ass for several months after Yosemite came out, but I'm hoping the changes in El Cap aren't the kind that will throw a proverbial stick into the spokes that make Live turn. Doing some cursory Googling has led me to believe it works just as well, but I like you guys and would like a straightforward answer.

I'm also curious as to whether or not certain games have issues (mostly Civ V and Borderlands 2), but those aren't exactly deal breakers and I didn't actually search for those in the thread yet.

I know I should be dual booting and not using it as a daily driver, but I like to live dangerously.
 
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DevilMayCry

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Jun 16, 2015
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After applied El Capitan Beta 3, only Java is broken, after applied Supplemental Update ... even official apps like Mail, Safari ... all broken ...
NOTE: do not install Supplemental Update ... you'll regret.

I mean I knew this is Beta ... where's the Quality now a days in Apple (other then gold sink, bull ******** consumer to buy way over-priced, ****** products, ... ) ...

It's like those days Steve was fired by Apple, the company board go really greedy, and almost kill Apple ...

And then they try to copy that crappy feature from Windows 10, split screen? (what the hell do you need split screen when your device don't support touch screen, it's so stupid !!!

OS X El Capitan: Working & Not Working Apps

You can edit this post rather than adding to the thread.

Working

1Password (has minor display glitches but functions fine)

4D
Adium
Adobe Photoshop CS6 - CC 2015
Adobe Illustrator CC 2015
AdwareMedic
Airmail 2
Air video HD
Alfred 2
Anki
Any.do
Aperture
AppCleaner
Asset Catalog Creator
Audio Hijack 3.1.1
Audio Hijack Pro
Autodesk Maya 2016
Battle.Net Launcher
BetterSnap Tool
BetterTouchTool
Billings
Bitdefender Virus Scanner
BOINC Manager
Boxer
Brainwave Studio
BreakTime (required permission repair)
Caffeine
Calibre
Circus Ponies Notebook
Cisco Anyconnect VPN
ClamXav 2.7.5
CleanApp
Coconut Battery
Coda
Compressor 4.2
Cyberduck
DaisyDisk
Day One
Degrees
Deliveries
DeSmuMe
Diablo III
Disk Sensei
Doomseeker
DOSBox
Dreamweaver CC2014
Dropbox
DVDpedia
EazyDraw 7 (using beta on developer's site)
Echofon
Electrum
Emcee
Evernote
EyeTV
FileMaker Pro Advanced 14.0.1
Final Draft
Firefox
Flux
FolxGo
Gamepedia
Geektool
Geek bench 3
gfxCardStatus, v2.3
Google Chrome
Google Chrome Canary
Google Drive
Google Music Manager
Google Photos Desktop Uploader
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
Handbrake
Hangouts
Hex Fiend
HipChat
Hype 3 Pro
iFlicks 2
iPhoto
iSentry
iStat Nano/Pro (Dashboard)
iTerm
iTerm2 (frequent crashes)
iWork '09 (Pages, Numbers, Keynote)
iZotope RX 3
Kega Fusion
Keka
Keynote (current version)
Kindle
Last.fm
Lightroom CC
Logic Pro 9.1.8
Logitech Control Center (Devices won't pair) - Works for me, when mouse reconfigured!
LogMeIn-Rescue
MacJournal
MacScan
Mactracker
MakeMKV
Matlab R2015
Microsoft Lync 14.0.11
Microsoft Office Suite (Vers 15.x)
Microsoft Office for Mac 2016
Microsoft Remote Desktop
Microsoft Word 2011
Mountain
MplayerX
Mumble 1.2.10
MySQLWorkbench 6.2
Notability
Numbers (current version)
OmniFocus
OmniGraffle
OmniOutliner
OpenEmu
OS X Fuse 2.8.0
ownCloud client 1.8.2
Pages (current version)
Paintbrush
Papers 3.2.10
Parallels Desktop (10.2.1) (Also version 9)
Path Finder
PDF Pen Pro
Plex Home Theater
Plex Media Server
pwSafe
R 3.1.2
Radarscope
RDM
RealVNC Viewer
Retrospect Client 12.0.2 (menu bar status doesn't work, but pref pane and backups do)
RingCentral for Mac
Safari Prairiefire
Seil
Sketch
Skim (since beta 3)
Skype
Slack
SMC Fan Control
Sophos Anti-Virus for Macintosh 9.2.4
Spark
Spotify
Starcraft 2
Steam
Sublime Text 3
Team Viewer
Team Fortress 2
Telegram
Text Wrangler
TextMate
TG Pro
Todoist
Total Manager 3.7.0
TorBrowser
Transmission
Transmit
TRIM Enabler
Tunnelblick
Tweetbot 2
Tweetdeck
Twitter
uBar
ubersicht
UnRarX
UP2
VirtualBox
Virtual DJ Pro Full
VLC
VMware Fusion 6
WavePad
WeatherDock
Wine
WiTopia
World Clock
VMWare Horizon Client 3.4.1 (released 2nd July to support El Capitan)
Xcode 6.3.2
Xee
XLD
Zandronum

Not Working

Anything that requires Java 6 (6 support is temporarily unavailable. 10.11 will be the last version to support 6.)
Bartender (mainly cosmetic issues but has gotten really ugly in DP3)
Box Sync
CalcBot
Calendar (Exchange is broken)
Calories 3
Carbon Copy Cloner
Casper (Jamf Software)
CCleaner
cDock
CleanmyMac 3
CrashPlan (was working earlier, but now BROKEN in DP3)
DockMod
Eclipse (was working after installing Java in DP1 and DP2, but now broken in DP3)
Egnyte Desktop Sync
Fantastical 2 (regularly crashes when adding appointments)
Final Cut Pro X 10.2.1 (crashes upon launch for some people)
Flash Player 18.0
Flashlight
gdisk 1.0.0 (Installation successful after disabling rootless and rebooting)
iBooks (Immediate crash, however if users use the same trick used on running Xcode 6.3.2, iBooks will work)
iConBox 2.6.0
Imprint V1.4.2
iShowU Pro (requires resetting settings)
iStat Menus (iStat Menus 5.1.1Beta released for 10.11)
jBidWatcher (requires Java 6)
Letter Opener Pro
LiteIcon 3.5.6
Little Snitch 3.5.3 (Nightly Build 3.6 - 4348 released for 10.11)
Logitech Control Center (Devices won't pair) - Works for me, when mouse reconfigured!
LogMeIn
LogMeIn Client
Lync 2011 (logs in then crashes)
Mail (Exchange is broken)
Mail Act-On
MenuMeters 1.8.1
Microsoft Remote Desktop (works for some)
Microsoft Outlook Preview 2016 (very buggy with exchange account)
Motion
Movie Magic Budgeting (requires Java 6, which can not be installed on 10.11)
NovaBench (totally white windows, needs to be force quit)
OS X Fuse 2.7.5 (OS X Fuse 2.8.0 Beta released for 10.11)
Parallels Bootcamp partition (Other VM's work fine)
Quicken (crashes on launch unless I start a new database from scratch)
RadioSHARK (app works but gets no sound from device). Workaround: Use Audio Hijack 3.1.1 to round sound from RadioSHARK input to Line Out
Razor Synapse
Rhinoceros
Roon (was working in DP1 and DP2, broken in DP3)
Safari Stand
Scrivener (was working in DP1 and DP2, broken in DP3)
Snag-It (All-In-One Capture does not work...Window and Full Screen work.)
SpamSieve (needs update to work with newest Mail)
Starry Night Pro Plus 7.1.2
SuperDuper! (see http://www.shirt-pocket.com/blog/index.php/shadedgrey/comments/uncovering_our_rootlessness/ for details and beta)
Synology Cloud Station (does not detect changes, needs stop/restart to make it work)
TechTool Pro 7
TechTool Pro 8
TotalFinder
TotalSpaces2 ( Works after rootless turning off)
Township (Game)
Taxer NTFS (Installed after disabling rootless via Terminal and rebooting)
Wacom Bamboo tablet driver
XQuartz (requires rootless be turned off to install)
XtraFinder
Yosemite CacheCleaner


I'm concerned about:

Clear
Backup Buddy

If anyone has these and are using El Capitan could you please post if they are working OK? Thanks
 

Amazing Iceman

macrumors 603
Nov 8, 2008
5,837
4,648
Florida, U.S.A.
Quickbooks 2014 does not work for me. I can get the program to open, but once I click on anything it crashes instantly. I use QB for my business on this laptop and definitely shouldn't have downloaded the El Capitan beta. Oops.
Thanks for your feedback. Have you installed the update that came out today?
One observation, tho: I have use Quickbooks for a while, and it seems Intuit makes it fail on purpose with newer version of OS X.
Think of this: Quickbooks doesn't do anything special on its GUI to become incompatible this easily.
I'm really considering getting another app to replace it, even if it's a plain spreadsheet.
 

elements79

macrumors newbie
Nov 21, 2013
2
4
After applied El Capitan Beta 3, only Java is broken, after applied Supplemental Update ... even official apps like Mail, Safari ... all broken ...
NOTE: do not install Supplemental Update ... you'll regret.


I just installed the Supplemental Update and Mail, Safari are working perfectly fine here.
 

Skoal

macrumors 68000
Nov 4, 2009
1,773
532
Seriously? This isn't "just an update", you're going from a public release to a very early beta release. Of course apps will be broken! The whole point of a beta/developer preview is so developers can test their apps and fix them BEFORE the public release.


Agreed! I think a lot of folks are buying dev licenses so they can have the latest software and somehow forget their using beta software that's made specifically to test for the actual final release. It's really hard to understand why people complain about software that's under development.
 

Ritsuka

Cancelled
Sep 3, 2006
1,464
969
It's actually ridiculous apps don't work after an update, I remember the good times when updating to the next OS X version would not be any problem except for old hardware, now apps just break with every major update (10.10- to 10.11 for instance). Those good old days are gone sadly!

You remember wrong. ;)
Btw, the final version will have less compatibility issues.
 

d4v1dv00

macrumors newbie
Jul 11, 2015
1
1
Anyone whom find Eclipse IDE not working, the closest workaround is to switch to NetBeans IDE 8. Just tested on El Capitan Public Beta built 15A215h
 
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bobbytomorow

macrumors 6502
Nov 10, 2007
429
25
Left Coast
Anyone whom find Eclipse IDE not working, the closest workaround is to switch to NetBeans IDE 8. Just tested on El Capitan Public Beta built 15A215h

Portal 2 has worked fine for me since DP1, now on DP3 and still works fine. However my game performance has taken a hit since DP1, DP1 it was great DP2/3 not so much
 

S.B.G

Moderator
Staff member
Sep 8, 2010
26,674
10,459
Detroit
After applied El Capitan Beta 3, only Java is broken, after applied Supplemental Update ... even official apps like Mail, Safari ... all broken ...
NOTE: do not install Supplemental Update ... you'll regret.
I updated yesterday afternoon and everything seems fine for me. Safari is working and so is Mail. I don't regret it.
 

matzeli

macrumors newbie
Jul 11, 2015
10
0
Ludwigshafen/Germany
Pathfinder 7 doesn't work for me (Public Beta and Patch from Yesterday).... it crashes regular... especially when you make file operations like copy, paste or look for File informations.
 

nagy7

macrumors newbie
Jul 10, 2015
5
0
Airplay doesn't work for me, I tried it with airport express second generation and third generation too.
 

MikeyMike01

macrumors 6502
Apr 4, 2010
395
107
And then they try to copy that crappy feature from Windows 10, split screen? (what the hell do you need split screen when your device don't support touch screen, it's so stupid !!!

You must not see the forest for the trees. One day there'll be no difference between iOS and OS X, only hardware. It's another step towards that.
 

SkipperRi

macrumors regular
Jul 11, 2015
103
14
Rijeka, Croatia
First of all, hello to all on this forum.

Yesterday I installed El Capitan, and for now there two problems with apps.
Topaz Labs don't work at all, and Adobe Premiere CC have problem with Mercury Playback Engine GPU Acceleration (Open CL). If I choose that in Project Settings, video is unusable, with glitches, horizontal lines, yellow and orange colour distortion (see the picture)... If I choose CUDA, preview is OK, but rendering can be done. After some time there is an "unknown error" when render video.

With Mercury Playback Engine Software Only everything is Ok, but rendering process is much, much slower. On Yosemite I render 4K video (241 MB) with Mercury Playback Engine GPU Acceleration (Open CL) for 8-9 minutes, same video on El Capitan with Mercury Playback Engine Software Only render for hour and half.

Another apps seems work fine, and obviously faster.

Best regards
Screen Shot 2015-07-11 at 18.48.37.png
 

EwanMcTeagle

macrumors 6502
Mar 26, 2012
261
43
Lodz, Poland
Scrivener is working - go to Settings > Privacy and tick off Scrivener's access to contacts. After that it does work, although it will crash in fullscreen mode in some instances - especially after waking the Mac from sleep.

iaWriter is crashing upon start. It works fine if you had any document opened - it will open all right. But when you close and try to open another document the app will crash and then crash upon restarting ad infinitum :)

PhotoBooth & iMovie - basically recording with FaceTime camera (tested on Thunderbolt Display) is buggy. It starts recording, but then freezes. The recorded video doesn't show up in PhotoBooth library, although it's visible in iMovie, but it's impossible to play it back. Recording in iMovie also doesn't work - same behaviour as in PhotoBooth.
 

noahyamen

macrumors newbie
Jul 11, 2015
2
0
Can anyone let me know about the following apps:

SwitchResX
SmoothMouse
USB Overdrive
uBlock

Thanks. :)

I can confirm that SwitchResX does not work. The program will launch and run. But it is not installing/modifying my ultrawide monitor anymore.
 

noahyamen

macrumors newbie
Jul 11, 2015
2
0
Working for me (that may not be listed above (also can't seem to edit that post)):
(Legit Adobe CC)
• Adobe After Effects CC
• Adobe Flash CC
• Adobe illustrator CC
• Adobe InDesign CC
• Adobe Photoshop CC
• Adobe Premiere Pro CC
• Espresso
• Fetch
• Adapter
• Handbrake

Not Working:
• SwitchResX (Program/Settings do launch. But it is not changing my LG Ultrawide monitor any more)
• Box Sync
 

dyn

macrumors 68030
Aug 8, 2009
2,708
388
.nl
XQuartz (requires rootless be turned off to install)
Tested it and cannot confirm it doesn't work in PB1. Rootless is turned on and it installed without any problems. It seems to be working fine. I only have to investigate why I can't start a remote x11 session, it might also be the remote machine or some setting ($DISPLAY for example).

Microsoft Outlook Preview 2016 (very buggy with exchange account)
This isn't an El Capitan problem but a general problem with Outlook 2016. It was introduced in one of the preview versions and is still in the final release. You can see some complaints about very buggy Exchange support in the official announcement on the MS Office blog.
 
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