Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X Public Beta Testing

[Nightkrawler]

I have some major problems with the final + leopard
Running: German Mac OS 10.5.1 + 300GB NTFS disk over USB
I never had macfuse/ntfs 3g or a beta version of this driver installed on this system.

// Started Disk utility

20.11.07 20:37:04 Disk Utility[699] ********** 
20.11.07 20:37:04 Disk Utility[699] „Festplatten-Dienstprogramm“ wurde gestartet.

// Plugged in my external NTFS USB drive for the first time

20.11.07 20:37:36 fseventsd[27] log dir: /Volumes/Mobile Filez/.fseventsd getting new uuid: E87001D7-BE58-482A-A7AC-0E985674C31B 
20.11.07 20:38:38 kernel disk1s5: device/channel is not attached. 
20.11.07 20:38:38 kernel um ] [ErrNo 6] [IOType Read] [PBlkNum 30075977] [LBlkNum 30075977] [FSLogMsgID 244420251] [FSLogMsgOrder First]  
20.11.07 20:38:38 kernel evel 3] [ReadUID 0] [Facility com.apple.system.fs] [DevNode devfs] [MountPt /dev] [Path /dev/disk1s5] [FSLogMsgID 726513188] [FSLogMsgOrder Last]  
20.11.07 20:38:38 fseventsd[27] disk logger: failed to open output file /Volumes/Mobile Filez/.fseventsd/000000000266d31a (Input/output error). mount point /Volumes/Mobile Filez/.fseventsd 
20.11.07 20:38:38 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:38 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:38 kernel 30075977] [FSLogMsgID 1002757097] [FSLogMsgOrder First]  
20.11.07 20:38:38 kernel lkNum 30075977] [LBlkNum 30075977] [FSLogMsgID 779638750] [FSLogMsgOrder First]  
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel ogMsgID 1436200182] [FSLogMsgOrder Last]  
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel tPt /dev] [Path /dev/disk1s5] [FSLogMsgID 1052087464] [FSLogMsgOrder Last]  
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel 0781833] [FSLogMsgOrder First]  
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 kernel disk1s5: media is not present. 
20.11.07 20:38:39 /usr/sbin/spindump[716] process 258 is being monitored 
20.11.07 20:38:39 /usr/sbin/spindump[716] process 712 is being monitored 
20.11.07 20:39:06 fseventsd[27] failed to store the uuid in /Volumes/Mobile Filez/.fseventsd/fseventsd-uuid.  unlinking it. 
20.11.07 20:39:06 fseventsd[27] failed to create the uuid file /Volumes/Mobile Filez/.fseventsd/fseventsd-uuid 


// Everything freezed around here, i unplugged the hdd and everything worked again
// Tried to plug it in again, and it mounted this time
// Started Disk utility again

20.11.07 20:39:54 Disk Utility[731] **********
20.11.07 20:39:54 Disk Utility[731] „Festplatten-Dienstprogramm“ wurde gestartet.
20.11.07 20:40:00 fseventsd[27] log dir: /Volumes/Mobile Filez/.fseventsd getting new uuid: 21780F43-8468-412A-877A-294D2BFE0096 
20.11.07 20:40:00 Disk Utility[731] „Mobile Filez

// I created a new folder and tried to delete it again (finder says that the folder is a text file now), i couldnt delete it: 

20.11.07 20:40:14 com.apple.launchd[97] (0x10b2e0.Locum[740]) Exited: Terminated 

// Started Disk utility again, remounted the volume

20.11.07 20:40:28 Disk Utility[744] **********
20.11.07 20:40:28 Disk Utility[744] „Festplatten-Dienstprogramm“ wurde gestartet.
20.11.07 20:40:33 fseventsd[27] log dir: /Volumes/Mobile Filez/.fseventsd getting new uuid: A64FFBCA-B665-4432-A297-9F182EF7FB58 
20.11.07 20:40:33 Disk Utility[744] „Mobile Filez

// Couldn't delete folders

20.11.07 20:40:58 com.apple.launchd[97] (0x10b750.Locum[757]) Exited: Terminated
20.11.07 20:41:02 com.apple.launchd[97] (0x10b7c0.Locum[758]) Exited: Terminated 

// i think i remounted here again

20.11.07 20:41:27 fseventsd[27] log dir: /Volumes/Mobile Filez/.fseventsd getting new uuid: 361753B1-7B9A-4FC4-8130-CBE07A165F34 
20.11.07 20:41:42 com.apple.launchd[97] (0x10b7e0.Locum[776]) Exited: Terminated

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reboot
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Plugged in the disk again, mounted with no problems.
I tried to delete the "system volume informations" folder (+1200 files) since i dont use windows system restore on the external
after 600 Files or so ive got a kernel panic

Tue Nov 20 20:44:48 2007
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x00A33E0D): FSObject == NULL
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack) 
0x53183498 : 0x12b0e1 (0x455670 0x531834cc 0x133238 0x0) 
0x531834e8 : 0xa33e0d (0xa61fc4 0x531834f0 0x531834f8 0x531834f8) 
0x53183508 : 0xa3741b (0x68f52d0 0x53183510 0x53183518 0x53183518) 
0x531839b8 : 0x1f098c (0x531839d8 0x531839ec 0x53183a08 0x44c275) 
0x53183a08 : 0x1d2616 (0x68f52d0 0x53183df4 0x53183f08 0x5e4b7c4) 
0x53183a98 : 0x1d3350 (0x53183ddc 0x100 0x53183dfc 0x0) 
0x53183b48 : 0x1e1e1d (0x53183ddc 0x0 0x0 0x3e8070) 
0x53183d88 : 0x1e2411 (0xb0523e98 0x0 0x0 0x0) 
0x53183f48 : 0x1e24aa (0xb0523e98 0x0 0x0 0x0) 
0x53183f78 : 0x3da847 (0x53c12b0 0x5e4b6c0 0x5e4b704 0x6028208) 
0x53183fc8 : 0x19ea34 (0x5c5f440 0x0 0x1a10b5 0x6182128) 
No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb0523f78
      Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
         com.paragon-software.filesystems.ntfs(1.0.7)@0xa32000->0xa66fff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: fseventsd

Mac OS version:
9B18

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.1.0: Wed Oct 31 17:46:22 PDT 2007; root:xnu-1228.0.2~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro2,1 (Mac-F42189C8)

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reboot
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Kernel Panic 2 :
I copied the pagefile (512MB), and copied the copy and the oreginal again at the root folder on my NTFS bootcamp windows xp partition.
at 50%:

Tue Nov 20 21:37:25 2007
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x00A33E0D): FSObject == NULL
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack) 
0x54f8f4b8 : 0x12b0e1 (0x455670 0x54f8f4ec 0x133238 0x0) 
0x54f8f508 : 0xa33e0d (0xa61fc4 0x2 0x54f8f538 0x13cda9) 
0x54f8f528 : 0xa377d1 (0x7bc55b0 0x5f4e6b0 0x54f8f578 0x13ce9a) 
0x54f8f578 : 0x1f42cf (0x54f8f5a0 0x0 0x54f8f5c8 0x38799e) 
0x54f8f5c8 : 0x1eb8ef (0x7bc55b0 0x1 0x5cb72e4 0x462ed8) 
0x54f8f8c8 : 0x1edf26 (0x5cb72e4 0x46125c 0x17 0x54f8fee8) 
0x54f8f958 : 0x1c3a58 (0x7bc5640 0x461134 0x54f8fee8 0x54f8ff58) 
0x54f8ff78 : 0x3da847 (0x5a49bc0 0x5cb71e0 0x5cb7224 0x3f03) 
0x54f8ffc8 : 0x19ea34 (0x5c410e0 0x0 0x10 0x5c42f40) 
No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb019b2c8
      Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
         com.paragon-software.filesystems.ntfs(1.0.7)@0xa32000->0xa66fff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: SecurityAgent

Mac OS version:
9B18

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.1.0: Wed Oct 31 17:46:22 PDT 2007; root:xnu-1228.0.2~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro2,1 (Mac-F42189C8)

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I booted windows and it ran chkdsk.

after that i uninstalled the driver. (uninstallation worked fine here)

I will test newer versions if i find time for it

 

[LGFelix]

Lost NTFS functionality going from 10.4.10 to 10.4.11

Anatoly said:

Is your external driver (USB 2.0) not showed on your desktop under your 10.4.10 with applied OS x 10.4.11 patch when our driver is installed?

Yes, however, the Paragon NTFS driver was the Beta 4 version. It worked fine for me on 10.4.10, but upon upgrading to 10.4.11, when reconnecting the NTFS volume, it would not mount. To upgrade, I repaired permissions and ejected all USB and Firewire external disks. The NTFS volume is a USB 2.0 connection. After upgrading and repairing permissions again, I connected each volume. All showed up except the NTFS-formatted volume. It showed up in Disk Utility but not on the desktop. I disconnected the NTFS volume, uninstalled Beta 4, restarted and reconnected the NTFS volume. It showed up normally and I could browse its contents.

Note: this was with Beta 4. I've had no problems with the full application. All remains OK.

 

[milkrocket]

Thanks for the key

Thanks a lot for the serial.

Anyway I had this issue with my NTFS Drive. For some reason my Trashes folder got corrupted and refused to be deleted. Had to run chkdsk to remove it.

Also I now get approx 24 MB/Sec from my NTFS Partition which is FASTER than the 22 MB/Sec from FAT32.

Great Job guys.

 

[papypaprika]

NTFS Volume Disappeared after uninstalling

Dear Anatoly,

any news on what I could do to recover the access to my ntfs volume ?

I am waiting for a solution, since I have no other computer to access my ntfs datas.

Please, help !

 

[Anatoly]

Dear papypaprika,

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Can't you access your NTFS partition if you install our driver? Uninstall? In both cases?

We have prepared a special debug version that will keep the necessary log information in the /var/log/pntfs.log. Please install the debug version, reproduce the problem and let me know you have this file ready to send.


Dear Nightkrawler,

Thank you for your feedback. Please install the debug version too and plug in the disk. Will this disk be mounted? If not, please let me know you have this /var/log/pntfs.log file ready to send.


Dear LGFelix,

Do you have the same problem with the release version of the driver?


The debug version can be downloaded here:
http://download.paragon-software.com/macosx/beta/NTFS_for_Mac_OS_X_6.0_debug.dmg

Thank you all,
Anatoly.

 

[papypaprika]

Dear Anatoly,

I tried to install your debug version, but it tells me that my trial period is over... So I cannot install this version...

Dear papypaprika,

Can't you access your NTFS partition if you install our driver? Uninstall? In both cases?

Anatoly.

I cannot access my partition in both case.
Now when i try to uninstall, it tells me that ntfs is not installed, but, still do not have access to any ntfs partition.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Nightkrawler]

Dear Nightkrawler,

Thank you for your feedback. Please install the debug version too and plug in the disk. Will this disk be mounted? If not, please let me know you have this /var/log/pntfs.log file ready to send.

The disk mounts without problems, i can reproduce the kernel panic while copying a previously copied file on my ntfs bootcamp partition. (see the kernel panic in my previous post). Unfortunately i cant give you a debug log because there is none even after numerous reinstalling/restarting with the debug version, should the log exist even the disks mounts successfully?

-edit-
odd, now i cant reproduce my the copy kernel panic anymore, im going to try some things now maybe i can find out what it was.
Anyway, i noticed that i cant open some files on my external ntfs drive when they are compressed, even finder crashes in coverflow view when trying to previewing them:
23.11.07 20:46:45 com.apple.quicklook[122] Fri Nov 23 20:46:45 MacBookPro17LAN quicklookd[122] <Error>: read_file: warning: failed to read entire file.
and
23.11.07 20:46:52 com.apple.launchd[98] ([0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.finder[113]) Exited abnormally: Bus error
This may be the reason why it kernel paniced the first time (previous post) because the system volume informations directory is compressed. The files working perfectly fine in windows and the filesystem should be healthy because i was checking it in windows with chkdsk many times.

-edit2-
yikes...., i just noticed that if i try to repair my external with disk util. im getting an error seems to be the master file table. Odd, i ran chkdsk in windows before with the "auto. repair filesystem errors" (in german: "dateisystemfehler automatisch korrigieren") and it said it was healthy...
Also, there are variable names ($Volume for example, look at the screenshot) instead of the text while repairing, i think thats a small bug unless its only in the debug version

-edit3-
after the error from repairing the disk the mft seems to be broken. (-> disk unmountable, windows says its raw format)
I tried to restore the mft with testdisk but even the backup from mft is gone (there are no important files on it so no big deal, im gonna format it and run some disk diagnosis tools when i have the time, maybe it was really the disk that died, but everything worked in windows without problems before the "repair" with disk util. )

 

[Hyperblue]

Debug version

Thanks for posting the debug version, but I have the same problem too "my trial period is over".

 

[LGFelix]

Reply to Anatoly

Anatoly said: Dear LGFelix, Do you have the same problem with the release version of the driver?

Anatoly: I have found no problems with the release version, and it appears to work correctly in OS X 4.10.11. The problem I had was only with Beta 4 when I upgraded to OS X 4.10.11 from OS X 4.10.10. Beta 4 worked (for me) in OS X 4.10.10 but not 4.10.11.

 

[ScienceMac]

Possible severe problem with Diskutility formating as "Windows NT"

Hi Anatoly,

I have discovered the following problem:

1. I formated a USB Harddisk (SAMSUNG MP0804H Media) with 74.2 GB as "Windows NT Filesystem" using Diskutility and the Filesystem plugin of Paragon NTFS for Mac (Final version)

2. upon testing (copying to and from) I discovered that some files were corrupt: primarily images and Powerpoint presentations (possibly others).

3. It is reproducible and I then prepared different Powerpoint-slides in Windows using Office 2003 and embedded different types of images inside (JPG, PNG, TIF, BMP, GIF) for each type a different Powerpoint file.

4. I copied those files to the USB drive (Windows NT Filesystem) and then back again to a windows machine (all files were corrupt - EXCEPT: the file with the embedded JPG-File appeared ok!)

5. This error does not appear on Drives formatted from the Windows side (eg. Bootcamp) only the diskutility plugin from Paragon has this error!

I can send you the files (original and modified) both are unfortunately to large for the forum upload (both 1MB) if desired.

Tell me if you need more details!

IN CONCLUSION:
I currently strongly suggest to NOT format disks for storage of important data from Diskutility using "Windows NT Filesystem" until somebody can reproduce this error and Paragon might supply a fix!

 

[SpookTheHamster]

I've been using the betas until beta 3, I've recently lost the ability to mount my NTFS drive. Where can I download the uninstaller from? I made the mistake of deleting it.

 

[dtdrpepper]

Anatoly,

I have installed the final release version and found issues in the following situations:

Situation 1 - I connected an NTFS formatted 45GB USB2 drive to my MacPro. The drive had previously been the system drive (XP SP2) in an old box. I placed it, unaltered, in an external enclosure. I wanted to delete everything from it except for jpegs downloaded from my camera and contents of the My Documents directory. I made directories for the things I was saving and made my deletions.

Everything appeared to go fine until I attempted to empty the Trash. I got a progress bar dialog with message of preparing to delete X number of items. I allowed it to continue for probably 10 or 15 minutes. When it got to over 3 million items and still counting (I'm sure more than were in the Trash) it was preparing to delete, I canceled the emptying. I made a couple more starts with the same results.

I uninstalled NTFS for Mac and emptied the Trash without issue, but now the USB drive would not mount. I tried it on another Mac and had the same result of no recognition.

I booted into XP and found that the Trashes directory refused to be deleted. Finally, I reformatted the drive.

Situation 2 - With the same drive reformatted, I booted back into OS X, made some directories and copied some jpegs and Quicktime files back onto the drive. I booted back into Windows and found that most of the jpegs (probably 9 out of 10) were corrupted and about half of the mov files were corrupted.

Here's a resized-resaved example of the typical appearances of the corruption.

 

[Neil321]

many thanks will give it go

hi all finally got xp installed after loads of probs formatted partition ntfs
will it now be ok to download paragon so it can read my xp partition

 

[nospamboz]

Paragon E-Service System Login Problems?

Has any other beta tester who got a free license been able to log in
to the Paragon E-Service system, using the Username and Password in
the same email from Paragon as the license key?

I go to:

http://kb.paragon-software.com/ess

enter the info, and then get a blank page. The same thing happens when I
enter an incorrect password. The password (which the system can re-send
to me so I know it's right) is a dollar "$" followed by an English word,
and looks vaguely like a shell variable reference, which makes me suspicious.
I also know the username is correct, because when I try to create a new one
with the same name, it says it already exists.

Any help is appreciated.

 

[dtdrpepper]

Both ScienceMac and I have recently posted about reproducible corruption on USB drives (mine was formatted under Windows) - Pretty serious stuff IMO.

Is anyone else finding the same thing?

 

[SpookTheHamster]

Can someone help me get my NTFS drive back? I just want the uninstaller for beta 3.

 

[Jack Flash]

Both ScienceMac and I have recently posted about reproducible corruption on USB drives (mine was formatted under Windows) - Pretty serious stuff IMO.

Is anyone else finding the same thing?

I lost a file transferring it to my Windows partition.

 

[dtdrpepper]

Can someone help me get my NTFS drive back? I just want the uninstaller for beta 3.

Sorry, I never downloaded beta 3. I could be mistaken, but I think I recall reading somewhere in this thread that the uninstaller in any version will remove what ever version is installed.

Do you know that this is not the case?

 

[dtdrpepper]

I lost a file transferring it to my Windows partition.

Internal drive?

 

[papypaprika]

Dear Anatoly,

I tried to install your debug version, but it tells me that my trial period is over... So I cannot install this version...



I cannot access my partition in both case.
Now when i try to uninstall, it tells me that ntfs is not installed, but, still do not have access to any ntfs partition.

Thanks in advance.

Is there still anybody from Paragon listening? My access is not back... I'm wondering: we reported lots of bugs, and no answer since a long time...

 

[mapl]

huge files and jpegs

Hi all,

I am trying Leopard with the trial version of paragon ntfs. This seems to work quite well, but there are still a few issues.

1) I have a full backup of my hfs+ partition in a dmg-file on a hfs+ formated partition of an external HDD. I would like to copy this 56 GB file to a ntfs partition mount using paragon ntfs on the same external drive. Doing this works without any error messages while coping. Unfortunately the content of the file gets corrupted during this operation. Mounting the dmg from the ntfs partition is not possible and the md5 sum is differs from the original.

2) I get a similar effect, with corrupted jpegs, as described by dtdrepper before. Fortunately the file itself is not corrupted on the disk. I know this because I can still read and display the image in a proper way under windows XP.

Greetings
Martin

 

[ScienceMac]

Little Endian vs. Big Endian (Just a theory)

Hi all,

might it be, that the problems with file corruption might be due to some little endian - big endian issue?

Just a theory...

 

[dtdrpepper]

Hi all,

might it be, that the problems with file corruption might be due to some little endian - big endian issue?

Just a theory...

It's a bit over my head, but wouldn't that make the issue processor dependent (i.e., whether Intel, G4, or G5 -- where Intel/NTFS should be the same as Intel/HFS)?

 

[Anatoly]

Dear Forum Visitors,

I have uploaded a new version to our web site:
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/download.html

We can’t find or reproduce any problem with this version. Please check it.

Dear Nightkrawler,

Please check the new version, your problem may be fixed.

Dear papypaprika,

Install the version above. Do you have access to NTFS partitions?

Dear ScienceMac, dtdrpepper and mapl,

The issue is fixed. Thank you very much. Please check.

Dear SpookTheHamster,

Please write me a private message and let me know your email so that I may send you the Beta3 and you may uninstall it.

Thank you all,
Anatoly.

 

[dtdrpepper]

Dear Forum Visitors,

I have uploaded a new version to our web site:
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/download.html

We can’t find or reproduce any problem with this version. Please check it.

Anatoly,

The only version I find on your website is the same one I had. The item info for both .pkg files is the same, Version: 6.0.9 Created: 11/20 10:25 AM