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Leon1das

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I think this is the guide I used long ago.. Parallels was in the preview stage back then.

Thank you - I did this one.
In my question I was referring to getting the full license (that you have) vs the insider/evaluation.
 

bobcomer

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Thank you - I did this one.
In my question I was referring to getting the full license (that you have) vs the insider/evaluation.
A full license of Windows on Arm? Can't be done, you can only use the insider version. (for now, hopefully it'll change sometime)
 

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Thank you - I did this one.
In my question I was referring to getting the full license (that you have) vs the insider/evaluation.

I entered my Windows 10 activation key when I installed Windows 10 ARM and it was fully embraced by Microsoft. As shown in the photos, they know exactly how I am using it and approved the activation of a digital license. They gave me the option to upgrade to 11 and I took it. Everything works beautifully. I am having a lot of fun playing Assassins Creed: Black Flag on my base M1 Air.

Do not let Internet Anons tell you what you can or cannot do. Explore.
 

bobcomer

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I entered my Windows 10 activation key and it was fully embraced by Microsoft. As shown in the photos, they know exactly how I am using it and approved the activation of a digital license.
But you're still running the preview version, which is what the question was.
 

gank41

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I entered my Windows 10 activation key and it was fully embraced by Microsoft. As shown in the photos, they know exactly how I am using it and approved the activation of a digital license.
This is what I've been saying the entire time. I've also purchased a license directly from Microsoft, and then used said license on a Windows 10 on ARM install and it was activated just fine. I'm no lawyer, but if Microsoft sells me the product activation key and then accepts said product activation key to activate their own product, we're fine. The argument comes between Activation v Licensing. No where in Microsofts loooong and boring legal sheets does it ever say that they license standalone WoA installs.
 

gank41

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But you're still running the preview version, which is what the question was.
You are able to go into the Insider Preview settings and change the build from Dev to Beta, or even opt out of receiving further Insider Preview builds at all. Then you'd only get official releases...
 

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But you're still running the preview version, which is what the question was.

how many times are you going to spam this thread and others with the same comments? Interesting that you have a need to repeat the same thing over and over and over and over... step back my friend.
 

Leon1das

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I entered my Windows 10 activation key when I installed Windows 10 ARM and it was fully embraced by Microsoft. As shown in the photos, they know exactly how I am using it and approved the activation of a digital license. They gave me the option to upgrade to 11 and I took it. Everything works beautifully. I am having a lot of fun playing Assassins Creed: Black Flag on my base M1 Air.

Do not let Internet Anons tell you what you can or cannot do. Explore.

You are able to go into the Insider Preview settings and change the build from Dev to Beta, or even opt out of receiving further Insider Preview builds at all. Then you'd only get official releases...

Gents - my goal is to remove the desktop watermark and disable the unwanted updates - yet still keep the working Win10/11 image. Can you confirm this can be done? If so - this would be closest to real Win10 experience I had and I would opt for that.
 

gank41

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Gents - my goal is to remove the desktop watermark and disable the unwanted updates - yet still keep the working Win10/11 image. Can you confirm this can be done? If so - this would be closest to real Win10 experience I had and I would opt for that.
Yes, entering an activation key will remove the limitations of having a non-activated build of Windows. You'll be able to change all of the settings, appearance-wise, that are locked down by not having an activated copy of Windows. The Desktop Watermark will remain, from my experience anyway, until the version of Windows you're on is the official release build at that time. Mine still showed the build information in the bottom right (but not the "not activated" wording) after opting out of the Insider Preview builds until a new official release and then I just had my regular desktop wallpaper, no build information at all listed.

**Note that this experience was from Win10 on ARM. Win11 is still in Beta and can't be opted out yet. I'm curious if we'd have the same process once it's official.
 
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Gents - my goal is to remove the desktop watermark and disable the unwanted updates - yet still keep the working Win10/11 image. Can you confirm this can be done? If so - this would be closest to real Win10 experience I had and I would opt for that.

Yes, entering an activation key will remove the limitations of having a non-activated build of Windows. You'll be able to change all of the settings, appearance-wise, that are locked down by not having an activated copy of Windows. The Desktop Watermark will remain, from my experience anyway, until the version of Windows you're on is the official release build at that time. Mine still showed the build information in the bottom right (but not the "not activated" wording) after opting out of the Insider Preview builds until a new official release and then I just had my regular desktop wallpaper, no build information at all listed.

**Note that this experience was from Win10 on ARM. Win11 is still in Beta and can't be opted out yet. I'm curious if we'd have the same process once it's official.

@gank41 is correct. You will get a fully activated Windows 10. However, in my case, it removed the desktop watermark when I upgraded to 11 and if I go to settings, it doesn't show me as an Insider anymore. The option to join the Insider Program is there. I am using a local account also not my microsoft id so that may be the difference. I am receiving regular updates to Windows 11.

We cannot pretend to know what Microsoft is doing. A lot of their employees probably do not know. All we can do is give them money, get a license, and activate it.
 
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gank41

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@gank41 is correct. You will get a fully activated Windows 10. However, in my case, it removed the desktop watermark and if I go to settings, it doesn't show me as an Insider anymore. The option to join the Insider Program is there. I am using a local account also not my microsoft id so that may be the difference. I am receiving regular updates to Windows 11.
And I think that's because Windows 11 is still in Beta. Once the official first build is out the door and they're selling product keys for Win11, we'll have the same experience as on Win10.
 

Digitalguy

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the annoying watermark that goes over your active windows is removed, there is just a very small one the desktop that says evaluation copy, but you hardly ever see it in a VM, unless you choose to show the desktop
 

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the annoying watermark that goes over your active windows is removed, there is just a very small one the desktop that says evaluation copy, but you hardly ever see it in a VM, unless you choose to show the desktop

yes. even the eval copy watermark is gone for me.
 

bobcomer

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You are able to go into the Insider Preview settings and change the build from Dev to Beta, or even opt out of receiving further Insider Preview builds at all. Then you'd only get official releases...
Yes, but it will expire in not to long a time and not run. Insider builds have a drop dead date.
 

gank41

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Yes, but it will expire in not to long a time and not run. Insider builds have a drop dead date.
I have never had that issue since running the Windows 8 betas. Only once with Win10 did I end up reinstalling the OS altogether, but at that point it didn't matter as I was installing an official build. But I've been on a WoA build of Win10 now since day 1 of the Parallels Tech preview that supported it, and have seen no sign that it will expire.
 

bobcomer

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I have never had that issue since running the Windows 8 betas. Only once with Win10 did I end up reinstalling the OS altogether, but at that point it didn't matter as I was installing an official build. But I've been on a WoA build of Win10 now since day 1 of the Parallels Tech preview that supported it, and have seen no sign that it will expire.
You probably just updated every time it asked is all. I stopped updating a couple times, and it expired.

 
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gank41

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You probably just updated every time it asked is all. I stopped updating a couple times, and it expired.

The headline says it all:
Microsoft sets dead date for Insider Builds

When you opt out of the Insider Builds, and then stay on the current release build, there is no Insider Build to expire.

:rolleyes:
 

bobcomer

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The headline says it all:
Microsoft sets dead date for Insider Builds

When you opt out of the Insider Builds, and then stay on the current release build, there is no Insider Build to expire.

:rolleyes:
Don't take my word for it, try other people and VMWare's blog. You can only run an insider build, even if you opt out of insider builds, that's what is still on your VM when you opt out. Nothing gets installed when you opt out, does it....
 

bobcomer

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Don't take my word for it, try other people and VMWare's blog. You can only run an insider build, even if you opt out of insider builds, that's what is still on your VM when you opt out. Nothing gets installed when you opt out, does it....
In any case, I've said my piece, so yeah, I wont post again in this thread. So, use at your own risk, peace out.
 
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