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MacNB2

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Happy New Year.
Try Amazon UK for a Kryo M2 card.
I can order from USA Amazon (to UK) quite often cheaper shipping (or the same, especially if shipped by Amazon direct) than from UK store.
Happy New Year.
Wow ! That Kryo M2 adapter seems very expensive for what it does.

I use this one for my Sabrent Rocket 1TB NVMe and it only cost £14.99. Even cheaper on eBay.
The heatsink is screwed in with a metal plate on the back of the board. Comes with the required thermal pads.
 

Fastsavage

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Happy New Year.
Wow ! That Kryo M2 adapter seems very expensive for what it does.

I use this one for my Sabrent Rocket 1TB NVMe and it only cost £14.99. Even cheaper on eBay.
The heatsink is screwed in with a metal plate on the back of the board. Comes with the required thermal pads.
I saw that one when I bought mine but Unavailable and not sure when back in stock......
 

Fastsavage

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Tanks


Thanks! I'm now wondering how much mail from NZ to Oz is!!! Buying a few might lower the shipping mail price.

I checked both places too, and from Germany to Australia was a hundred Aussie bucks. And Melbourne is 2,000 km closer to Frankfurt than is Auckland.

I suspect I am dominated by "value" - rather than my short term need. Or perhaps I just don't how much I'l benefit from extra speed and capacity. But I do think that these chewing gum drives will fall in price, although with Covid that still might take some time ...

With the USA, Australia Post uses a company in the USA to forward local mail bought items to Australian addresses, which results in much cheaper shipping. But Australia Post is stopping the service I think early this year ... which might mean USA to Australia prices will likely increase from many companies.

Checking at Deutsch Post (who incidentally own DHL and they are the "largest" shipping company in the world although I'm not sure what "largest" means), their charge for a half kg parcel bigger than these cards, is 9.5 Euro with limited packaging and insured for 35 Euro; and with 100 euro insurance, the cost is 11.5 euro.
I agree its expensive - we can get stuff from Sydney AU to Christchurch NZ on DHL in a small bag way cheaper AND overnight.....

I should have bought a few and put them on TradeMe to recoup some costs....
 
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I agree its expensive - we can get stuff from Sydney AU to Christchurch NZ on DHL in a small bag way cheaper AND overnight.....

I should have bought a few and put them on TradeMe to recoup some costs....
Yeh ... when you cop such a transport cost, whose going to be thinking of breaking even somehow? !!!!

So I went to my page with the HighPoint SSD7101A-1 on it - and its gone! The price is now up 50%. I should have bought it yesterday ... so now, its the single card solution, darn!!

But I'd like to comment on your spec list - you say you have a 1x Samsung 2T 870 Evo. That is not on the list provided on the first page ... let us know how it goes!

I am doing a spreadsheet on pricing of all these gum stick drives, which hasn't been made easier by a keystroke in Mac "Numbers" spreadsheet program crashing ... I think because my Mac does not recognise my keyboard. And the keyboard is made by Apple!! I think my keyboard is from my G4 twin mirror door tower. The alloy one which came with the Mac Pro 5,1, was poorly made- I'e concluded that because it failed quite early on. Not so the plastic fantastic G4 mirror door one - although it does have a serious case of yellow fever (I'm referring to how its keys and upper plastics have yellowed).

Back to point: You have listed a Samsung "drive".

The 2 TB 870. Let us all know, as it would be useful to know which ones work.

The shortened version of page one's list on the Samsung drives:

Samsung XP941: UAX controller (S4LN053X01): AHCI; Available in 128GB, 256GB, and 512GB
Speeds: ~1,000 MB/s read, ~800 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung SM951: UBX controller (S4LN058A01): Both AHCI and NVMe versions; Available in 128GB, 256GB, and 512GB
Speeds: ~2,150 MB/s read, ~1,500 MB/s write (512 GB model); Compatibility status (AHCI): Good; Compatibility status: (NVMe): Good

Samsung 950 PRO: UBX controller (S4LN058A01): NVMe; Available in 256GB and 512GB
Speeds: ~2,500 MB/s read, ~1,500 MB/s write; Compatibility status: (NVMe): Issues/not compatible; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung PM961: Polaris controller (S4LP077X01): NVMe; Available in 128GB, 256GB, 512GB, and 1TB
Speeds: ~3,000 MB/s read, ~1,500 MB/s write; Sector size: 512 bytes per sector; Compatibility status: Good

Samsung SM961: Polaris controller (S4LP077X01): NVMe; Available in 128GB, 256GB, 512GB, and 1TB
Speeds: ~3,200 MB/s read, ~1,800 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung 960 EVO: Polaris controller (S4LP077X01): NVMe; Available in 250GB, 500GB, and 1TB
Speeds: up to 3,200 MB/s read, up to 1,900 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung 960 PRO: Polaris controller (S4LP077X01): NVMe; Available in 512GB, 1TB, and 2TB
Speeds: ~3,500 MB/s read, ~2,100 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung PM981: Phoenix controller (S4LR020): NVMe; Available in 256GB, 512GB, 1TB, and 2TB
Speeds: ~3,500 MB/s read, up to 2,400 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Issues/not compatible; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung PM981a: Phoenix controller (S4LR020): NVMe; Available in 256GB, 512GB, 1TB, and 2TB
Speeds: ~3,500 MB/s read, up to 2,400 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Issues/not compatible; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung 970 EVO: Phoenix controller (S4LR020): NVMe; Available in 500GB and 1TB
Speeds: up to 3,500 MB/s read, up to 2,500 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung 970 EVO Plus: Phoenix controller (S4LR020): NVMe; Available in 250GB, 500GB, 1TB and 2TB
Speeds: up to 3,500 MB/s read, up to 3,300 MB/s write; 4Kn support: No; Additional notes: Not recommended for use in the Mac Pro 6,1 because it operates at a higher temperature than other NVMe blades. About 10-15 degrees C warmer than SK Hynix and Toshiba/KIOXIA NVMe blades.

Samsung 970 PRO: Phoenix controller (S4LR020): NVMe; Available in 512GB and 1TB
Speeds: up to 3,500 MB/s read, up to ~3,000 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown
 

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Yeh ... when you cop such a transport cost, whose going to be thinking of breaking even somehow? !!!!

So I went to my page with the HighPoint SSD7101A-1 on it - and its gone! The price is now up 50%. I should have bought it yesterday ... so now, its the single card solution, darn!!

But I'd like to comment on your spec list - you say you have a 1x Samsung 2T 870 Evo. That is not on the list provided on the first page ... let us know how it goes!

I am doing a spreadsheet on pricing of all these gum stick drives, which hasn't been made easier by a keystroke in Mac "Numbers" spreadsheet program crashing ... I think because my Mac does not recognise my keyboard. And the keyboard is made by Apple!! I think my keyboard is from my G4 twin mirror door tower. The alloy one which came with the Mac Pro 5,1, was poorly made- I'e concluded that because it failed quite early on. Not so the plastic fantastic G4 mirror door one - although it does have a serious case of yellow fever (I'm referring to how its keys and upper plastics have yellowed).

Back to point: You have listed a Samsung "drive".

The 2 TB 870. Let us all know, as it would be useful to know which ones work.

The shortened version of page one's list on the Samsung drives:

Samsung XP941: UAX controller (S4LN053X01): AHCI; Available in 128GB, 256GB, and 512GB
Speeds: ~1,000 MB/s read, ~800 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung SM951: UBX controller (S4LN058A01): Both AHCI and NVMe versions; Available in 128GB, 256GB, and 512GB
Speeds: ~2,150 MB/s read, ~1,500 MB/s write (512 GB model); Compatibility status (AHCI): Good; Compatibility status: (NVMe): Good

Samsung 950 PRO: UBX controller (S4LN058A01): NVMe; Available in 256GB and 512GB
Speeds: ~2,500 MB/s read, ~1,500 MB/s write; Compatibility status: (NVMe): Issues/not compatible; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung PM961: Polaris controller (S4LP077X01): NVMe; Available in 128GB, 256GB, 512GB, and 1TB
Speeds: ~3,000 MB/s read, ~1,500 MB/s write; Sector size: 512 bytes per sector; Compatibility status: Good

Samsung SM961: Polaris controller (S4LP077X01): NVMe; Available in 128GB, 256GB, 512GB, and 1TB
Speeds: ~3,200 MB/s read, ~1,800 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung 960 EVO: Polaris controller (S4LP077X01): NVMe; Available in 250GB, 500GB, and 1TB
Speeds: up to 3,200 MB/s read, up to 1,900 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung 960 PRO: Polaris controller (S4LP077X01): NVMe; Available in 512GB, 1TB, and 2TB
Speeds: ~3,500 MB/s read, ~2,100 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung PM981: Phoenix controller (S4LR020): NVMe; Available in 256GB, 512GB, 1TB, and 2TB
Speeds: ~3,500 MB/s read, up to 2,400 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Issues/not compatible; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung PM981a: Phoenix controller (S4LR020): NVMe; Available in 256GB, 512GB, 1TB, and 2TB
Speeds: ~3,500 MB/s read, up to 2,400 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Issues/not compatible; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung 970 EVO: Phoenix controller (S4LR020): NVMe; Available in 500GB and 1TB
Speeds: up to 3,500 MB/s read, up to 2,500 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown

Samsung 970 EVO Plus: Phoenix controller (S4LR020): NVMe; Available in 250GB, 500GB, 1TB and 2TB
Speeds: up to 3,500 MB/s read, up to 3,300 MB/s write; 4Kn support: No; Additional notes: Not recommended for use in the Mac Pro 6,1 because it operates at a higher temperature than other NVMe blades. About 10-15 degrees C warmer than SK Hynix and Toshiba/KIOXIA NVMe blades.

Samsung 970 PRO: Phoenix controller (S4LR020): NVMe; Available in 512GB and 1TB
Speeds: up to 3,500 MB/s read, up to ~3,000 MB/s write; Compatibility status: Good; 4Kn support: Unknown
Samsung 870 series will never be listed on this thread because it's a SATA drive. Btw, a SATA one with issues when installed on a MacPro5,1:

Caution! Troubles with 870 evo drives on cMP 5,1 !
 

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But Fastsavage List his gear as: Mac Pro 4.1>5.1 | 2 x 2.8Ghz X5660 | 32Gb 1333Mhz RAM | PCI Apple 500Gb | 1x Samsung 2T 870 Evo | 1x 1T Mercury Electra 6G | 2x 3T Spinners | RX580 8GB SAPPHIRE PULSE | OS 12.1
What his signature even have to do with with the topic of this thread? If you wan to discuss Samsung 870 anything, go to the correct thread and post there, I've even linked it up for you. Please discuss SATA issues/cooling/buying/whatever on the correct threads.

This thread will need a serious clean-up…
 
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Samsung 870 series will never be listed on this thread because it's a SATA drive. Btw, a SATA one with issues when installed on a MacPro5,1:

Caution! Troubles with 870 evo drives on cMP 5,1 !
Thanks then. Although the pricing for that card from me, was expensive.

But Fastsavage List his gear as: Mac Pro 4.1>5.1 | 2 x 2.8Ghz X5660 | 32Gb 1333Mhz RAM | PCI Apple 500Gb | 1x Samsung 2T 870 Evo | 1x 1T Mercury Electra 6G | 2x 3T Spinners | RX580 8GB SAPPHIRE PULSE | OS 12.1

Fastsavage


I thought Fastsavage was using one successfully, hence my query, from Fastsavage's gear list. Its certainly important to point out the difference, because those SATA ones do look very similar to NVME cards, but for the connection on the end. And their speed.

The better price option for me looks at the moment to be a Sabrent Rocket Q 2 TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive R/W 3200/3000MB/s (SB-RKTQ-2TB) if I bought a card that supports just one disk card. But I've initially just priced through a PC supplier I've found is good. Most of their cards are PC branded ones, such as MSI, Gigabyte, Corsair etc, rather than the brands listed in the intro hear. One would be very brave to buy a PC branded one I guess ...

I've seen the brand Silverstone mentioned here at times ... they sell a few that should work, and they are sold in Australia and have a two year warranty. They say Mac OS compatible, but they say up to 10.14. I guess they haven't updated their descriptions to take into account Apple's later Operating systems. At least I hope so, if I buy one. And they do not supply heat sinks either, which further adds to the cost and the time of working out what to do ...

I am now tempted to get that German one and send it to my cousin (in law) in Germany. He's a train guy (very senior) at Siemans sort of, and has to go to Austria soon ... so if I do that, I could be waiting quite a while. And while I wait that bargain HighPoint SSD7101A-1 might come up again ... I wish I had just bought the darn thing.
 
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Thanks for posts Fastsavage. My apologies for involving you! and Happy New Year to you, MacNB2 and especially to tsialex!

I have found two local to Melbourne Australia single 4 channel cards, which I think would do the job.

They are:
Cheapest is $Au45 ($US32) - SST-ECM22
SilverStone ECM22 Dual M.2 to PCIe NVMe/SATA Adapter Card
It has a local 1 year warranty. But it doesn't have heat sinks. Its duel, so that is very low cost considering it list Mac OS compatibility.

ECM22 duel Silverstone cardd.jpg


Secondly there is a local 1 year warranty for the same Silverstone brand, one which has a heat sink included, and importantly, it has flashing LED lights as well (these sell mostly to PCs of course hence the low prices):

2nd Cheapest is $Au49 ($US35) - SilverStone ECM24-ARGB M.2
SilverStone ECM24-ARGB M.2(M Key) NVMe SSD to PCI-E x4 Adaptor Card, Heatsink, Thermal Pad and RGB LED Indicator, Compatibles with M.2 2230, 2242, 2260 and 2280

Also list Mac OS compatible (although says OS 10.13 & 10.14 - I presume later would still work fine as I think the issue is the firmware.

Silverstone ECM-24 single NVME card RGB.png


Please note the LED lights - essential for verifying a PC's true power.

Third low cost alternative is a brand we all know - OWC. They have a card that is locally available from Macfixit (who'd ship to NZ too - apologies Fastsavage but you have a good product and that is what matters at the end of the day):

Third Cheapest @ $Au 69 ($US 49): OWC Accelsior 1M2 PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD Card
It comes with a heat sink too. There is a video on installing it, as OWC do often do:
The card:
OWC Excelsior NVME 4x card.jpg


I have also found the $US 305 HighPoint Technologies SSD7101A-1 card locally to Australia. This issue is that the seller does not list the card's description. However all the visuals show the card's name. I will have to contact the seller, and then perhaps, the seller will change the price. Or I could buy the card and then have a fight if the seller ships a different card to the one his advertisement advertises. I am unsure who is the potential unfair person or should I say - unethical person: myself if I buy knowing the card is under priced - or if the seller is doing something not right. Also I suspect the card is being dropped or discounted soon. Highpoint have said the SSD7101A-1 is being replaced soon, by a better card.

Now I may be all mixed up with all this. I have only got this information by reading Highpoint's web site, and the Web. To get reliable information, I should have spoken to Highpoint themselves.

So please tell me to what extent I may be wrong!

For a while I thought the new card had been out for a while - but it seems my information may be current, and that the new card hasn't yet landed. But Highpoint has also said they will continue to sell the SSD7101A-1 card - hence I presume, it will fall in price. I am pretty sure I saw the replacement cards price as being similarly priced to the current SSD7101A-1 price. If so SSD7101A-1 would fall in price, or, Highpoint would withdraw it. They have previously revised the same card I think.

Mostly the new card's price is not listed. Also, some sites now list the SSD7101A-1 as no longer being available. SSD7101A-1 does a great job, but the next version will be better (due to better heat characteristics with newer hotter drive cards, and also it will work faster in some computers). But I doubt it would perform better in a Mac, especially in a slow old bus 5,1.

As listed I think in the first page, Highpoint sell a number of cards. Those that can take 8 NVME drive (cards) on the one cards, I will not mention as they cost a lot more and are beyond reason for most of us here. IF NVME cards were much cheaper in lower capacity, such 8 slot cards might be worthwhile. But my costings show 2TB as being the better value per TB. However, RAID increases speed ... and can increase security. Sheesh ...

Highpoint:
An 8 channel card that holds two cards only. SSD7202 – PCIe 3.0 x8 2-Port M.2 NVMe RAID AIC RAID - It has a RAID controller on the card - cost here is about $Au 470 - $US 333
Then there is the Rocket 1101 4X M.2 PCIe Gen3 x16 NVMe - it costs $Au505 - $US 359
It supports up to 4 cards, is 16 channel, but you have to use the computer for a sotware RAID, rather than its own controller.

I should say too - in early 1994, I was putting in an NT servers as the core for a Mac environments along with image setter, scanners, Quark Xpress, Photoshop (I think version 1.4 and it wasn't owned by Adobe back then) etc. (I was digitising newspaper workflows) - and I used a RAID card back then in a Windows NT server computer ( a fraction of the cost of Unix servers and they were easy for staff to operate). NT was brand new back then (late 1993 it came available). and it supported Mac's low speed standard wired network. Such a card cost well over $Au3,000 back then. In today's money, such a card would cost maybe $15,000. And of course it was very slow ... today, Highpoint charges about $US 70 for their RAID controller hardware chip on the card.

Finally there is the SSD7101A-1 which costs normally around $Au 600 or $US 425. It includes the RAID controller processing unit, is 16 channel and supports 4 cards.







 
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Thanks for posts Fastsavage. My apologies for involving you! and Happy New Year to you, MacNB2 and especially to tsialex!

No apology necessary - didn't drag me into anything and Happy New Year to you.

I have found two local to Melbourne Australia single 4 channel cards, which I think would do the job.

They are:
Cheapest is $Au45 ($US32) - SST-ECM22
SilverStone ECM22 Dual M.2 to PCIe NVMe/SATA Adapter Card
It has a local 1 year warranty. But it doesn't have heat sinks. Its duel, so that is very low cost considering it list Mac OS compatibility.

View attachment 1937894

Don't buy anything WITHOUT a Heatsink........

Secondly there is a local 1 year warranty for the same Silverstone brand, one which has a heat sink included, and importantly, it has flashing LED lights as well (these sell mostly to PCs of course hence the low prices):
2nd Cheapest is $Au49 ($US35) - SilverStone ECM24-ARGB M.2 SilverStone ECM24-ARGB M.2(M Key) NVMe SSD to PCI-E x4 Adaptor Card, Heatsink, Thermal Pad and RGB LED Indicator, Compatibles with M.2 2230, 2242, 2260 and 2280

Also list Mac OS compatible (although says OS 10.13 & 10.14 - I presume later would still work fine as I think the issue is the firmware.

View attachment 1937907

Please note the LED lights - essential for verifying a PC's true power.

Flashing LED's make all the difference ?

Third low cost alternative is a brand we all know - OWC. They have a card that is locally available from Macfixit (who'd ship to NZ too - apologies Fastsavage but you have a good product and that is what matters at the end of the day):

Third Cheapest @ $Au 69 ($US 49): OWC Accelsior 1M2 PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD Card
It comes with a heat sink too. There is a video on installing it, as OWC do often do:
The card:
View attachment 1937910

A few people don't like OWC products but I have had a Mercury Electra 6G SSD for years and it's still going great so...

OWC ship direct to NZ - I have a Sonnet Technologies Allegro USB 3.2 4-Port SuperSpeed coming from them USD$9.86 freight via USPS International Priority Air


Good luck choosing a card
 
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....

Don't buy anything WITHOUT a Heatsink........
....
And thanks for your good wishes.

On the heat sinks - lots of evidence here about their benefits, and how they do cool these thin drives.

But perhaps not all of Apple's heat sinks? Look at this quote from years ago, which made me wonder about heat sinks:
The Mac Pro supports all capacities (128GB – 1TB) of Gen. 3 SSDs, but originally included drives with heatsinks that are attached with an extremely strong thermally conductive adhesive. It’s generally a safe bet that if Apple’s engineers decided it was necessary, it’s probably necessary, but it’s worth mentioning that the Mac Pros can use the heatsink-less SSDs found in other devices, and our internal testing showed absolutely no difference in SSD temperature when using drives with and without heatsinks, even under stress test conditions.
https://beetstech.com/blog/apple-proprietary-ssd-ultimate-guide-to-specs-and-upgrades June 2017!

This is an article referred to on the first page of this thread, at the end of the Apple SSD section.
 
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And thanks for your good wishes.

On the heat sinks - lots of evidence here about their benefits, and how they do cool these thin drives.

But perhaps not all of Apple's heat sinks? Look at this quote from years ago, which made me wonder about heat sinks:

https://beetstech.com/blog/apple-proprietary-ssd-ultimate-guide-to-specs-and-upgrades June 2017!

This is an article referred to on the first page of this thread, at the end of the Apple SSD section.

that's for the rather slow (compared to modern blades) AHCI blades from years ago.

I use two 256 GB AHCI blades in a PCIe Adapter without the bracket as test SSDs. They do not get hot and they are fine without a heat sink.

But modern NVMe do get hot if they are at heavy load, please do stop confusing people with outdated information.
 

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that's for the rather slow (compared to modern blades) AHCI blades from years ago.

I use two 256 GB AHCI blades in a PCIe Adapter without the bracket as test SSDs. They do not get hot and they are fine without a heat sink.

But modern NVMe do get hot if they are at heavy load, please do stop confusing people with outdated information.
I actually said that its well proven cooling is necessary. However this thread, on page one, refers to an article, which said what I repeated. I don't really know what relevance the Macbook and iMacs SSDs have to this thread either.

I'm here to learn in order to improve my 5,1.
 
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I'm curious about the Kioxia brand of NVME blades. They are referred to as being similar to XG5 & XG6 Toshiba SSD NVME blades. However, looking at one on Amazon, Kioxia appears to be made in Germany, and I couldn't find any reference to Toshiba, or the Toshiba blades approved on in page one of this thread.

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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I'm curious about the Kioxia brand of NVME blades. They are referred to as being similar to XG5 & XG6 Toshiba SSD NVME blades. However, looking at one on Amazon, Kioxia appears to be made in Germany, and I couldn't find any reference to Toshiba, or the Toshiba blades approved on in page one of this thread.

Any help would be appreciated.
Look the first page, it's there, don't write that is not.

Toshiba Memory was spun-off from Toshiba back in 2018 as KIOXIA, you could found this info on the first page of a web search.
 
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Look the first page, it's there, don't write that is not.

Toshiba Memory was spun-off from Toshiba back in 2018 as KIOXIA, you could found this info on the first page of a web search.
But no models of the Kioxia brand are listed in the thread. For instance, I presume this one is not similar to the XG5 and XG6 blades listed as Toshiba that work ...

This is the data provided on the sales thread in Amazon:

Hard Drive‎1 TB Solid State Drive
Other Technical Details
Brand‎Kioxia
Item Model Number‎LRC10Z001TG8
Product Dimensions‎10 x 7 x 0.7 cm; 7 Grams
Item Dimensions L x W x H‎10 x 7 x 0.7 centimetres
Flash Memory Size‎1
Item Weight‎7 g
Manufacturer‎Kioxia
ASIN‎B087CPV6BR
Date First Available‎20 April 2020

From the speed, it seems quite different to the XG5 & XG6 blades, which appear quick. The "Other Technical Details" are the details I've shown.

I've done a search of this thread for "LRC10Z001TG8" and it's not been mentioned.

It seems to be a low cost product, newly introduced.

I will try and make sense from this review site: ttps://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/kioxia-exceria-1tb-m-2-nvme-ssd-review,1.html The review on page two says:

"This model is offered with a proper 5-year warranty (or number of TBW reached). Unfortunately, there is no information available on the controller."

I'm sorry for my ignorance upsetting people.

I'm just after a couple of good price point 1 or 2 TB blades that will work.

Having read return policies, it seems for me at least, unless its Dead on Arrival, I'll have to keep the blade, so I want to buy one that works.
 
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But no models of the Kioxia brand are listed in the thread. For instance, I presume this one is not similar to the XG5 and XG6 blades listed as Toshiba that work ...

This is the data provided on the sales thread in Amazon:

Hard Drive‎1 TB Solid State Drive
Other Technical Details
Brand‎Kioxia
Item Model Number‎LRC10Z001TG8
Product Dimensions‎10 x 7 x 0.7 cm; 7 Grams
Item Dimensions L x W x H‎10 x 7 x 0.7 centimetres
Flash Memory Size‎1
Item Weight‎7 g
Manufacturer‎Kioxia
ASIN‎B087CPV6BR
Date First Available‎20 April 2020

From the speed, it seems quite different to the XG5 & XG6 blades, which appear quick. The "Other Technical Details" are the details I've shown.

I've done a search of this thread for "LRC10Z001TG8" and it's not been mentioned.
I already wrote that ONLY blades and adapters KNOW to work (or not) in the long run are listed on the first post. It will never list non tested products, it's too difficult to understand that?
 
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I already wrote that ONLY blades and adapters KNOW to work (or not) in the long run are listed on the first post. It will never list non tested products, it's too difficult to understand that?
Really, sometimes i want to kill people… xD
 

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However, it will work with one NVMe.
Did you tested? This is not granted since the PCIe Lane Partitioning can be implemented in a way totally incompatible with MacPro5,1 and from the AliExpress page screenshot of the PC BIOS/UEFI I have a hunch that will not work for one blade, but I may be completely wrong.

Anyway, added to the Do Not Buy List of the first post.
 

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CEACENT ANM22PE08 NVMe Controller PCIe 3.0 x8 to M.2 Dualport with heatsink added to the Do Not Buy List of the first post, requires PCIe Lane Partitioning (Bifurcation).
 
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