Perfect imac 27 received!

[old john]

I have my menu bar set to translucent, the colour you can see is the picture in the back ground.

Thanks for the explanation, xSPRINTERx, but that means there's an amazing coincidence, because when djrod, the OP, posted a photo of his screen, I noticed a very similar colour variation on his menu bar. The colour is very similar to the colour in the photo of your menu bar and it varies left to right in the same way! Not only must djrod's menu bar must be set to translucent, but the colour provided by the picture in the background must be very nearly identical!

I didn't realize the menu bar could be transparent; perhaps it appeared after Tiger, which we're still using.

 

[xSPRINTERx]

Thanks for the explanation, xSPRINTERx, but that means there's an amazing coincidence, because when djrod, the OP, posted a photo of his screen, I noticed a very similar colour variation on his menu bar. The colour is very similar to the colour in the photo of your menu bar and it varies left to right in the same way! Not only must djrod's menu bar must be set to translucent, but the colour provided by the picture in the background must be very nearly identical!

I didn't realize the menu bar could be transparent; perhaps it appeared after Tiger, which we're still using.

when this photo was taken I had the standard os x desktop background set, djrod could quite easily have that set as his back ground.

 

[rymack]

One more thing to consider - the line refresh is due some time soon. Maybe they'll fix the screen?

Tom B.

AHH! Thanks for the link, sir! The last time I looked it had a different status, now it says "Buy only if needed". I guess I will do some thread searching for speculated refresh times? lol.
Thanks!

 

[SaSaSushi]

AHH! Thanks for the link, sir! The last time I looked it had a different status, now it says "Buy only if needed". I guess I will do some thread searching for speculated refresh times? lol.
Thanks!

The next iMac refresh could be in June or it could just as easily be in September or even later.

I highly doubt that Apple is going to change the LCD panels it is using in the next refresh anyway. Apple used the same LG panels in its 24" iMacs from mid-2007 until the most recent update in late-2009 and this is obviously the first iteration with these current 27" panels. I expect the next revision will be primarily speed bumps.

If you get one with a yellow tinge or any other color gradients Apple will replace it. Take what experts like Tom will tell you about all 27" panels being broken with a grain of salt. Look at one for yourself and decide.

 

[rymack]

If you get one with a yellow tinge or any other color gradients Apple will replace it. Take what experts like Tom will tell you about all 27" panels being broken with a grain of salt. Look at one for yourself and decide.

Yeah, for sure. The 27" they have on display at FutureShop is GORGEOUS and I have no idea if it has tint or not. I have also been assured that Apple is the best when it comes to customer service (although, of course, there are always exceptions and different situations...). I guess my biggest concern is the fact that the closest Apple stores to me are a 9 hour drive west, an 8 hour drive south, or a 16 hour drive east, lol, so I don't have the luxury of bringing my machine back to an Apple store if there is a problem. Although I am pretty sure the campus tech store at the university in town is an authorized Apple reseller/service depot or whatever you call them...

 

[SaSaSushi]

Yeah, for sure. The 27" they have on display at FutureShop is GORGEOUS and I have no idea if it has tint or not. I have also been assured that Apple is the best when it comes to customer service (although, of course, there are always exceptions and different situations...). I guess my biggest concern is the fact that the closest Apple stores to me are a 9 hour drive west, an 8 hour drive south, or a 16 hour drive east, lol, so I don't have the luxury of bringing my machine back to an Apple store if there is a problem. Although I am pretty sure the campus tech store at the university in town is an authorized Apple reseller/service depot or whatever you call them...

Well, I'm 3 hours from the nearest Apple Store here so I call AppleCare whenever I have a problem. If the computer needs to be sent in they send a courier to pick it up complete with packing materials. I just hand over the machine and they have it back to me in a few days. I have had only excellent service experiences although it's always inconvenient to be without one's Mac for any period of time.

Yes, if the campus store in Thunder Bay is an authorized service center you will likely be able to get service directly through them as well.

 

[alanwong]

I really want the 27" but I am having a hard time NOT getting sucked in by all the bad things I have read about the screen. Any advice would be great!

Until the frequency of postings on https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9773226#post9773226 goes down I would not get an iMac.

 

[lefse]

Its pretty clear from the picture that either this is the worst screen ever produced in the world with completely off centre balance of light, or else its just a bad photo with the screen not being evenly lit.

Its not a yellowing issue with the screen just an obviously bad photo (no offense to the taker) that can't possibly let you know whether the screen has issues or not. Surely its obvious to everybody that either the backlighting on that screen is completely broken (in which case slight yellowing would be the least of the poster's complaints) or else the photo is so over exposing the bottom middle of the screen (compared to the corners) that any suggestion it can be used to judge the screen is just silly.

Seem to be rather a lot of people around happy to proclaim bad screens off photos which frankly show nothing other than how hard it is to get a representative picture of an LCD display.

A somewhat controlled photo of an LCD is far better than someone's word.

The reason people are interested to see these photos, is that they want to know if Apple has done something to correct the problem.
Giving a refund after a few "iMac-trials" should not be considered a fix.

Djrod stated that he does not care about the tinge, and cannot notice it in real life. That's good for him.
But there are other people who care about colour fluctuations that in many cases are close to 800K.
And to these people getting a thread like this debunked, helps them to avoid getting an iMac at this point.

Btw: the new MBP has according to anandtech.com over 75% of the Adobe RGB colour space. Making it the best Colour-performing Mac currently available.

 

[djrod]

when this photo was taken I had the standard os x desktop background set, djrod could quite easily have that set as his back ground.

Yes, I have the default background:

And here is a screenshot of the toolbar:

 

[SaSaSushi]

Until the frequency of postings on https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9773226#post9773226 goes down I would not get an iMac.

We go in circles. I'll stop when you do.

I'd say basing a decision not to buy a new computer, sight unseen, based on the frequency of posts to a user forum, is slightly ridiculous.

And if you really wanted to sell that advice post some hard data on how the number of actual bad machines reported in that thread (frequency of posts, many repeats from the same posters, is quite irrelevant) compare to the total number of iMacs sold.

Just let your own eyes be the judge. Don't buy the hype.

 

[SaSaSushi]

Djrod stated that he does not care about the tinge, and cannot notice it in real life. That's good for him.
But there are other people who care about colour fluctuations that in many cases are close to 800K.
And to these people getting a thread like this debunked, helps them to avoid getting an iMac at this point.

So you admit to your agenda in here of trying to discourage sales of iMacs?

Personally, I couldn't care less if someone buys a new iMac or not. That's up to them.

I just find it hilarious that posters, some of whom have no experience with the late-2009 iMac beyond reading forum posts, make scurrilous claims that the entire line is broken, or that a tinge exists in all of them. This, I can absolutely prove is not the case. I have a 27" iMac, two good eyes and a colorimeter. I doubt very seriously that I lucked out and got the one good iMac in 3 plus million or whatever the amount is now. I don't have that sort of luck, sorry to say.

If I got a display with anything close to an 800K color fluctuation it would be sent back immediately for replacement.

 

[tiguanito]

So you admit to your agenda in here of trying to discourage sales of iMacs?

Personally, I couldn't care less if someone buys a new iMac or not. That's up to them.

I just find it hilarious that posters, some of whom have no experience with the late-2009 iMac beyond reading forum posts, make scurrilous claims that the entire line is broken, or that a tinge exists in all of them. This, I can absolutely prove is not the case. I have a 27" iMac, two good eyes and a colorimeter. I doubt very seriously that I lucked out and got the one good iMac in 3 plus million or whatever the amount is now. I don't have that sort of luck, sorry to say.

If I got a display with anything close to an 800K color fluctuation it would be sent back immediately for replacement.

Please can you give us your fluctuation values ?
I have :
middle-top: 6523K
middle-center: 6530K
middle-bottom: 6266K
right-bottom:6308K

and would like to know if some screens are significantly better than this one ?

 

[dade]

i bought an imac i7. in substitution of g4 owc 1.3, the productione week is 17 (april) . it will arrive on may 6th-7th . Which tests i will have to make when it will arrive. I hope it will be ok i sold the car for buy this one
1.yellow problem for monitor
2.flikering
3.noise of monitor???? what is this?when it happens
4.noise of hd
5.bluetooth and wifi
and... what else?
thanks

 

[SaSaSushi]

Please can you give us your fluctuation values ?
I have :
middle-top: 6523K
middle-center: 6530K
middle-bottom: 6266K
right-bottom:6308K

and would like to know if some screens are significantly better than this one ?

Absolutely, and thanks for your figures! I will take measurements later tonight after work.

 

[dougal]

new 27 inch imac

Hi

I've just received my 27 i7 iMac, no yellow tinge, or at least I can't see it (I've done the test).

According to this site http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html :

Production week: 16 (April)

I bought mine from applestore in uk


no problems whatsoever


perfect in fact

 

[Btom]

....Although I am pretty sure the campus tech store at the university in town is an authorized Apple reseller/service depot or whatever you call them...

Contrary to what some people here are saying, I am not an expert, however I'd suggest to check the return/replacement policy of your university store before taking the plunge (specifically the "no questions asked" clause). For example, my local authorized reseller/service shop charges the restocking fee.

Tom B.

 

[rymack]

Thanks again for all the advice and input. I was just thinking the other day, for the most part the people who are posting on these forums dealing with iMac problems are going to be the people who have the problems, and not so much the problem-free users (why would someone with a problem-free iMac post, unless they are offering advice, help, etc.), which would kind of make it seem like there is a bigger issue than there really is. Seeing as how I am not in a position to buy until June anyways, I figure I will wait and see if a refresh is released. If not, I will take the plunge, so to speak. I have been drooling over a Mac for years now, lol.

 

[alanwong]

for the most part the people who are posting on these forums dealing with iMac problems are going to be the people who have the problems, and not so much the problem-free users

Agreed, which is why I asked the guys at 27", 21.5" iMac Owners, test your screen for yellow tint issue here how many people got replacement screens or iMacs they were happy with.

At least if (more) people were getting their issues resolved rather than getting a refund that would be a positive sign. Unfortunately noone responded, probably due to the reason you raised (ie happy people are less likely to post)!

 

[rymack]

Agreed, which is why I asked the guys at 27", 21.5" iMac Owners, test your screen for yellow tint issue here how many people got replacement screens or iMacs they were happy with.

At least if (more) people were getting their issues resolved rather than getting a refund that would be a positive sign. Unfortunately noone responded, probably due to the reason you raised (ie happy people are less likely to post)!

lol too true! I have just recently Facebook messaged a few of my friends who have 27" iMacs, and neither of them even knew there was a problem, and both said they were amazed and awed by the awesomeness of their machines!

 

[IndustrialSpace]

Thanks again for all the advice and input. I was just thinking the other day, for the most part the people who are posting on these forums dealing with iMac problems are going to be the people who have the problems, and not so much the problem-free users (why would someone with a problem-free iMac post, unless they are offering advice, help, etc.), which would kind of make it seem like there is a bigger issue than there really is. Seeing as how I am not in a position to buy until June anyways, I figure I will wait and see if a refresh is released. If not, I will take the plunge, so to speak. I have been drooling over a Mac for years now, lol.

I understand your logic, but it's not correct in this situation. Those who have had issues, have had several issues in terms of defective replacements. For several individuals to receive anywhere from 2-7 replacements, with each one having a yellow tint problem, indicates that it is not just those who stop by with an isolated case. Its much more widespread than a squeaky wheel.

I'm hoping that this will be fixed come the next revision later this Summer.

 

[sleyeu]

hey noob question, how can i measure my colour balance on my imac screen?

i think it is with an app called spyder? do i have to pay?

and can i do it with a non-dslr? i only have the gimp.

 

[rymack]

I understand your logic, but it's not correct in this situation. Those who have had issues, have had several issues in terms of defective replacements. For several individuals to receive anywhere from 2-7 replacements, with each one having a yellow tint problem, indicates that it is not just those who stop by with an isolated case. Its much more widespread than a squeaky wheel.

I'm hoping that this will be fixed come the next revision later this Summer.

Yeah you are right, for sure. I guess I am just hoping that the issue isn't as bad as some of the forums would have me think. I was perfectly happy this time last week with my intentions of purchasing the 27", but of course my excitement led me to these forums, and in turn, have me doubtful.

 

[SaSaSushi]

hey noob question, how can i measure my colour balance on my imac screen?

i think it is with an app called spyder? do i have to pay?

and can i do it with a non-dslr? i only have the gimp.

You need a colorimeter. The Spyder is such a device. Taking pictures of your screen is hit or miss.

By the way, to Tiguanito, sorry I haven't posted my temps yet. It's the Golden Week holiday here in Japan and I've been busy but I'll try to get them done today.

Yeah you are right, for sure. I guess I am just hoping that the issue isn't as bad as some of the forums would have me think. I was perfectly happy this time last week with my intentions of purchasing the 27", but of course my excitement led me to these forums, and in turn, have me doubtful.

Oh is he happy to hear that. It's that seed of doubt that he lives for. He doesn't even own a 27" iMac and never has. His sole purpose is to troll these groups and try to dissuade others. WHY he, and others like him, do this is anyone's guess.

I got a great iMac on the first delivery and so did the vast majority of others out there. Do yourself a favor and believe your own eyes and not anything you read in user forums.

On the one hand you have these horror stories of people with multiple returns, some percentage of whom are squeaky wheels with unrealistic expectations of absolute perfect color uniformity and yellow-tinged eyes. On the other you have record sales of iMacs.

 

[Btom]

Please can you give us your fluctuation values ?
I have :
middle-top: 6523K
middle-center: 6530K
middle-bottom: 6266K
right-bottom:6308K

and would like to know if some screens are significantly better than this one ?

I know I am repeating myself, but is there any way you could somehow measure temperatures across the Samsung LED TV screen you've mentioned the other day?
It could be a very interesting comparison.

Tom B.

 

[rymack]

You need a colorimeter. The Spyder is such a device. Taking pictures of your screen is hit or miss.

By the way, to Tiguanito, sorry I haven't posted my temps yet. It's the Golden Week holiday here in Japan and I've been busy but I'll try to get them done today.



Oh is he happy to hear that. It's that seed of doubt that he lives for. He doesn't even own a 27" iMac and never has. His sole purpose is to troll these groups and try to dissuade others. WHY he, and others like him, do this is anyone's guess.

I got a great iMac on the first delivery and so did the vast majority of others out there. Do yourself a favor and believe your own eyes and not anything you read in user forums.

On the one hand you have these horror stories of people with multiple returns, some percentage of whom are squeaky wheels with unrealistic expectations of absolute perfect color uniformity and yellow-tinged eyes. On the other you have record sales of iMacs.

lol, yeah, I'm just trying to be diplomatic, I guess. The last time I called someone on something in a forum (not here, it was a comic book forum lol) I got flamed so bad I never posted again. The last thing I want to do is get into an argument with someone on the internet over something like this. But I will be taking your advice, for sure. I could hold off on an iMac for months and months waiting for the perfect LCD, and miss out on months and months of Mac awesomeness.

It's like the whole HD DVD vs. Blu-Ray. When I upgraded to an HDTV, the two formats were neck in neck, with literally a 50/50 split between studios. I eenie-meenied, and wound up buying an HD DVD player. 7 months later, Blu-Ray won. I have a Blu-Ray player now, of course, and love the heck out of it, but do I regret taking the plunge and buying an HD DVD player when things were uncertain?? ABSOLOUTELY NOT!! That was 7 months worth of amazing High Definition movies that I got to enjoy!

I think I will apply that logice to my upcoming Mac purchase, because I will lose my mind over-thinking this yellow screen thing. If I get a yellow screen, I will deal with it. If I don't, I will enjoy the crap outta my new iMac!