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kenoh

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Actually, @kenoh now that I've gone back with a serious eye to that image with the birds in the tree, there's lots of irregularities to it in the reflections of the tree that look like someone actually painted them in! :eek:

There's a whole shebang of uprights in the top section of the tree reflections that don't match the trees in the image... o_O

In other parts of the water, there's definition to the waves and in other parts, there's the appearance of a milky long-exposure... :confused:

Me definitely suspects compositing at work there and not in-camera captures.
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May not be in-camera workmanship there!

I want to be able to do minimist effects and i suck at it...tips welcome


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Actually I thought the old fashioned way of misting a photo was to breath on the lens and clean just the middle spot. No muck or grease involved. Repeat as necessary.

Cheers :)

Hugh

Tried that, didnt work...
 

bbrks

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Regular food in Far East
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mollyc

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I don't think we need to hear about you and vasaline thank you very much! This is a family thread! :p

Actually I've read about such things, but I'd not want to get it everywhere. Even if using a UV filter, it would get on your stuff.
Plus I don't think you could end up with a uniform finish.

Actually, @kenoh now that I've gone back with a serious eye to that image with the birds in the tree, there's lots of irregularities to it in the reflections of the tree that look like someone actually painted them in! :eek:

There's a whole shebang of uprights in the top section of the tree reflections that don't match the trees in the image... o_O

In other parts of the water, there's definition to the waves and in other parts, there's the appearance of a milky long-exposure... :confused:

Me definitely suspects compositing at work there and not in-camera captures.
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May not be in-camera workmanship there!

But surely those start off with long exposures, right? And that would explain the wonky reflections, as the water ripples...I agree a sea/ocean would work better than a still lake.

I recently saw a tutorial about shooting through a used dryer sheet - do you guys have those on the other side? The point was to use it for distinct sunflare, but I wonder if it would help to get some more of that vaseline type of look without the mess. Might be worth experimenting.

https://www.clickinmoms.com/blog/surprising-way-get-sunflare/


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Anyway, here is my photo.

69/365 | Epicenter

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akash.nu

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Had a quick play with the graduated mist filter today... took a quick 20 minute stroll to the park at the bottom of the hill to a little stream there.

Unfortunately the sun was low in the sky still so a bit of a pig to photograph without and flare (cant fit a hood and filters). Will bring an umbrella next time

DSCF7653-Edit.jpg by Ken OHagan, on Flickr

How the hell do you always manage to come up with such awesome shots and edits?!
 
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Ish

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Had a quick play with the graduated mist filter today... took a quick 20 minute stroll to the park at the bottom of the hill to a little stream there.

Unfortunately the sun was low in the sky still so a bit of a pig to photograph without and flare (cant fit a hood and filters). Will bring an umbrella next time

DSCF7653-Edit.jpg by Ken OHagan, on Flickr

I really like the effect of this. I've never heard of a graduated mist filter. Live and learn!
 

Alexander.Of.Oz

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From time to time I get to play with one of the cameras at my Mindful Photography groups, if someone doesn't turn up for the session. I have grown to develop a soft spot for the little M43 cameras!

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Panasonic-Lumix G1, Lumix G Vario 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6, Multi-segment Metering, Aperture Priority,
ISO 100, 28mm, f/4.8, 1/1000

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But surely those start off with long exposures, right? And that would explain the wonky reflections, as the water ripples...I agree a sea/ocean would work better than a still lake.
Howdy Molly.

I'll illustrate my reasoning for it being a composite.
  1. Yellow arrows: The birds are all crisp, with no blurring, this is not possible with a long exposure.
  2. Red curve: The reflections having a perfectly cut off curve to them here is not natural and it does not marry up to the shape of the lower branches. I know that the wind blows in weird ways at times, but I have never captured anything like this in any of my shots. In the middle of the red curve there are a bunch of dark shadows that do not match anything in the image, there are more on the left side of the red curve too that do not match the tree either.
  3. Blue arrow: The bird shadow/reflection is too large and the wrong shape for the bird.
  4. Orange rectangle: Wave details here contradict the milky white long exposure finish around and beyond the trees.
  5. Green arrow: Tree reflections should be getting thinner, not wider here, and where are the reflections of the masses of birds here, even as a grey patch?
  6. Where's the reflection of the pole on the right?
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I strongly suspect composite work here and in many of this persons other images too. Not that there's anything wrong in digitally enhanced artistic interpretations of photography, I do it to a certain extent.

If you are after crisp reflection details in water, a still lake is perfect for a short long-exposure! Especially for Scottish mountains reflecting across a mirrored lake or loch. :cool:
 
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kenoh

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Ah... Ministry of Silly Walks ;)
I was gonna say John Cleese
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It was. I think I might print that one, and if I come home with one photo I want to print, to me it was a good excursion.



Thanks! Here’s another from a little earlier...

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Damn it you are spoling me.. oh go on then... :) lovely
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From time to time I get to play with one of the cameras at my Mindful Photography groups, if someone doesn't turn up for the session. I have grown to develop a soft spot for the little M43 cameras!

39850093564_b3e5e200a1_o.jpg

Panasonic-Lumix G1, Lumix G Vario 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6, Multi-segment Metering, Aperture Priority,
ISO 100, 28mm, f/4.8, 1/1000

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Howdy Molly.

I'll illustrate my reasoning for it being a composite.
  1. Yellow arrows: The birds are all crisp, with no blurring, this is not possible with a long exposure.
  2. Red curve: The reflections having a perfectly cut off curve to them here is not natural and it does not marry up to the shape of the lower branches. I know that the wind blows in weird ways at times, but I have never captured anything like this in any of my shots. In the middle of the red curve there are a bunch of dark shadows that do not match anything in the image, there are more on the left side of the red curve too that do not match the tree either.
  3. Blue arrow: The bird shadow/reflection is too large and the wrong shape for the bird.
  4. Orange rectangle: Wave details here contradict the milky white long exposure finish around and beyond the trees.
  5. Green arrow: Tree reflections should be getting thinner, not wider here, and where are the reflections of the masses of birds here, even as a grey patch?
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I strongly suspect composite work here and in many of this persons other images too. Not that there's anything wrong in digitally enhanced artistic interpretations of photography, I do it to a certain extent.

If you are after crisp reflection details in water, a still lake is perfect for a short long-exposure! Especially for Scottish mountains reflecting across a mirrored lake or loch. :cool:

I think you are right on the breakdown of the image...

I guess is want to take images more like yours and Mark0's
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I really like the effect of this. I've never heard of a graduated mist filter. Live and learn!

I think in general the effect looks fake... but wonder if i can make it work....
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How the hell do you always manage to come up with such awesome shots and edits?!

Oh my word... i suck at this my friend... i see the work of the likes of anotherscotsman, cheese&apple, mark0, stillcrazyman to name but a few and try desperately to produce something even close in quality. I am humbled by your comment but thank you.....
 
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Alexander.Of.Oz

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I think you are right on the breakdown of the image...

I guess is want to take images more like yours and Mark0's
I too want to take images more like @Mark0 's! I have begun consciously paring back my images as an homage to his beautiful minimal pieces.
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I thought Ken was after the misty look, which is why I said ocean/sea. :)
I have no idea! I was just suggesting how a still water body can work too.
 
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