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What I've had recently:
Temptation by Russian River Brewing (same Brewery that puts out Pliny The Elder). It's a barrel aged sour.
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Falling Water IPA by Brouwerij West
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Bright Double IPA by Tree House Brewing
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They look fantastic; one of my 'bucket list beers' is Pliny the Elder'.

What is the barrel aged sour like? Do you recommend it?

My second beer of the night is "Frootwood" by Founder's. This is a cherry ale aged in maple syrup bourbon barrels. And is quite delicious - when Founder's get a beer right, they really rock.
 

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They look fantastic; one of my 'bucket list beers' is Pliny the Elder'.

What is the barrel aged sour like? Do you recommend it?

My second beer of the night is "Frootwood" by Founder's. This is a cherry ale aged in maple syrup bourbon barrels. And is quite delicious - when Founder's get a beer right, they really rock.
If you are a fan of sours, I could not recommend this beer enough. Here is the official description.

"A blonde ale fermented with a special strain of yeast, then aged in French oak chardonnay barrels. Flavors of wine and oak absorb into the brew throughout twelve months of aging. During this aging process, a secondary fermentation occurs using a yeast strain disliked by most brewers and winemakers called Brettanomyces."
 
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If you are a fan of sours, I could not recommend this beer enough. Here is the official description.

"A blonde ale fermented with a special strain of yeast, then aged in French oak chardonnay barrels. Flavors of wine and oak absorb into the brew throughout twelve months of aging. During this aging process, a secondary fermentation occurs using a yeast strain disliked by most brewers and winemakers called Brettanomyces."

Thanks for taking the trouble to post this; much appreciated. Sounds amazing.

Actually, I love - that is, love - sours, and yes, I must admit that I love the yeast called "Brettanomyces", too. I have had some beers where it featured and they were superb.
 
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Thanks for taking the trouble to post this; much appreciated. Sounds amazing.

Actually, I love - that is, love - sours, and yes, I must admit that I love the yeast called "Brettanomyces", too. I have had some beers where it featured and they were superb.

Tonight's beer features this very hop: The beer hails from the Crooked Stave stable, and is called "St Bretta - Brettanomyces Citrus Wildbier," and is one I highly recommend, especially if you love sour beers.
 
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Excluding the great Belgian beers, and if I recall correctly, you don't live in the United States. How do you procure our beers (if you do)? Just curious.

I'm in Europe, the British Isles, in other words, west Europe (when I am home).

This is beer heaven - the great Belgian, Danish, British, Czech and German beers are all easily obtained, as are some good Irish ones and - yes, even a few legends from the US (Founder's for example; I ave also seen Sierra Nevada in the good off licences here, though I do not regard it as being anything like as good as Founder's is).

Obtaining good quality beer is not a problem in my part of the world - and, if I read reviews of something that interests me - I will ask one of the excellent places where I do business (i.e. buy stuff) if they will consider trying to order it.
 
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I'm in Europe, the British Isles, in other words, west Europe (when I am home).

This is beer heaven - the great Belgian, Danish, British, Czech and German beers are all easily obtained, as are some good Irish ones and - yes, even a few legends from the US (Founder's for example; I ave also seen Sierra Nevada in the good off licences here, though I do not regard it as being anything like as good as Founder's is).

Obtaining good quality beer is not a problem in my part of the world - and, if I read reviews of something that interests me - I will ask one of the excellent places where I do business (i.e. buy stuff) if they will consider trying to order it.

Right right. I have the good fortune of living in the U.S. and have abundant high-quality beer as well - I was just curious if you were able to get American imports (Founders, Stone perhaps, etc...). I don't recall seeing American beers too often in my travels (Budweiser and the like not included obviously), but was curious if there was a large import store or something similar like I come across here in the U.S. from time to time.
 

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Right right. I have the good fortune of living in the U.S. and having abundant high-quality beer as well - I was just curious if you were able to get American imports (Founders, Stone perhaps, etc...). I don't recall seeing American beers too often in my travels (Budweiser and the like not included obviously), but was curious if there was a large import store or something similar like I come across here in the U.S. from time to time.

Founder's and Sierra Nevada are the two 'good' US producers that I see in good off-licences - that is, those that are serious about offering good quality products, along with much from Europe; now, I will admit that I have never laid eyes on - let alone sampled, sipped or savoured - Pliny the Elder - and some of the rarities that I have read about on these threads.

Personally, I think Founder's brilliant - some for their beers are superlative - and making their acquaintance certainly caused me to re-think the prejudice I had conceiving American beer which had dates form my student days - and, to my mind, Founder's is far better than anything that Sierra Nevada has to offer.
 

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Founder's and Sierra Nevada are the two 'good' US producers that I see in good off-licences - that is, those that are serious about offering good quality products, along with much from Europe; now, I will admit that I have never laid eyes on - let alone sampled, sipped or savoured - Pliny the Elder - and some of the rarities that I have read about on these threads.

Personally, I think Founder's brilliant - some for their beers are superlative - and making their acquaintance certainly caused me to re-think the prejudice I had conceiving American beer which had dates form my student days - and, to my mind, Founder's is far better than anything that Sierra Nevada has to offer.

Ah ok. I was skimming through the thread and was under the mistaken impression (my fault of course) that you may have had access to some of our most exquisite offerings ;) .

That's great that you've had a chance to try Founders. They're quite good. I wish more Europeans had an opportunity to sample our beer culture in the United States now. Even small cities have craft breweries that are quite excellent. Now I'm not attempting to get into a US vs Europe beer bash or anything, but now that it's fall one of my favorite is the "Pumpkin/October" style beer that comes around fall. You must try if you happen to see one.

The Pumking is among my favorite that I can pick up at the grocery store: http://www.stbcbeer.com/beer/pumking/?age-verified=f081cc3e78
 
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Ah ok. I was skimming through the thread and was under the mistaken impression (my fault of course) that you may have had access to some of our most exquisite offerings ;) .

That's great that you've had a chance to try Founders. They're quite good. I wish more Europeans had an opportunity to sample our beer culture in the United States now. Even small cities have craft breweries that are quite excellent. Now I'm not attempting to get into a US vs Europe beer bash or anything, but now that it's fall one of my favorite is the "Pumpkin/October" style beer that comes around fall. You must try if you happen to see one.

The Pumking is among my favorite that I can pick up at the grocery store: http://www.stbcbeer.com/beer/pumking/?age-verified=f081cc3e78

I will admit that I have heard very positive reports of the beer culture in places such as Portland, Oregon, and on parts of the west coast from people who work in the wine and beer sectors.

I gather that a sort of renaissance in artisan production (and brewing) in craft beer brewing - with some excellent results - has occurred in parts of the US - much as what has happened in both Ireland and the UK.

This is an outstanding development, and one I can only applaud - I remember the industrial horrors I grew up and consumed as a student (and some of the European monsters were very bit as bad as the grotesque stuff - such as Budweiser - from the US).

Despite having travelled extensively - very extensively - I have worked in three continents - I have never actually visited the US; if and when I do, I will most certainly attempt to seek out some of the good beers that some have kindly written about and posted pictures of on this very thread.
 

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I will admit that I have heard very positive reports of the beer culture in places such as Portland, Oregon, and on parts of the west coast from people who work in the wine and beer sectors.

I gather that a sort of renaissance in artisan production (and brewing) in craft beer brewing - with some excellent results - has occurred in parts of the US - much as what has happened in both Ireland and the UK.

This is an outstanding development, and one I can only applaud - I remember the industrial horrors I grew up and consumed as a student (and some of the European monsters were very bit as bad as the grotesque stuff - such as Budweiser - from the US).

Despite having travelled extensively - very extensively - I have worked in three continents - I have never actually visited the US; if and when I do, I will most certainly attempt to seek out some of the good beers that some have kindly written about and posted pictures of on this very thread.

Oh don’t just look at the West Coast! Founder’s is actually located in the state of Michigan. The good news is no matter which state you visit (at least in the north or on either coast) you will find some fantastic beer. There is a lot to see in the United States so you should come visit. Seriously ignore the Trump stuff you will be loved just for having an accent and people will ask you all sorts of questions (whether you’re in cosmopolitan New York or up here near the Lakes).
 

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Pics from this weekend.

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Bavarian Pale Ale from Iron Triangle Brewing in Los Angeles.

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Skidrokyo A Porter with Stumptown Coffee from Mumford Brewing in Los Angeles

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Up And At them IPA on the left, and Box Logo NE Style IPA on the right from Mumford Brewing.

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Needs no description! :p

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Nor does this one. :)

The last two I know, the former by repute (have never had the honour of making its acquaintance, alas) and the latter from personal experience, and/or consumption.

However, the others are all unknown to me.
 
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