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[RaceTripper]

I'd much rather have a car that gets "meh" MPG than one that gets good MPG and breaks down all the time. Or is boring as hell. I bought my 96 Land Rover Discovery when gas was nearing $4/gal (hell I still pay $3.19 a gal for premium for it), but it's in perfect shape mechanically, so the money that I would be spending on fixing the car I spend on gas/having fun.

Some people just don't get it I guess. Sad.

What is it that I don't get? That only low mileage cars are reliable and non-boring. That is what you just implied and I agree I don't get it! Can you explain that to me?

I don't think I'm quite ready to trade in my 30+ mpg JCW quite yet. It's too much of a blast to drive and has yet to break down, even after driving it hard at the track. Oh yeah, they don't allow SUVs on the track. They're too dangerous.

 

[spencers]

Some people just don't get it I guess. Sad.

Different strokes, dude.
You'll think otherwise when the head gasket fails on that LR disco!

 

[quagmire]

What is it that I don't get? That only low mileage cars are reliable and non-boring. That is what you just implied and I agree I don't get it! Can you explain that to me?

I don't think I'm quite ready to trade in my 30+ mpg JCW quite yet. It's too much of a blast to drive and has yet to break down, even after driving it hard at the track. Oh yeah, they don't allow SUVs on the track. They're too dangerous.

Is that he made a choice( probably full knowing its low MPG and future high gas prices) and others are pretty much insulting his choice. You may not buy a H3 or SUV because of their MPG, but if someone else does and doesn't mind the low MPG, why do you care? The H3 gets better MPG then a Ferrari and yet we all go, " COOL CAR DUDE!!!!".

 

[RaceTripper]

Is that he made a choice( probably full knowing its low MPG and future high gas prices) and others are pretty much insulting his choice. You may not buy a H3 or SUV because of their MPG, but if someone else does and doesn't mind the low MPG, why do you care? The H3 gets better MPG then a Ferrari and yet we all go, " COOL CAR DUDE!!!!".

I get that different people have different preferences. I don't care what car he prefers, yet he claims his choice is better because it's more reliable and more fun than a car that gets good mileage. That part I don't get. I'd like to know how he comes to that conclusion.

Besides, Land Rovers have a reputation for very poor reliability, so his claim is disputable in any case.

 

[quagmire]

I get that different people have different preferences. I don't care what car he prefers, yet he claims his choice is better because it's more reliable and more fun than a car that gets good mileage. That part I don't get. I'd like to know how he comes to that conclusion.

Besides, Land Rovers have a reputation for very poor reliability, so his claim is disputable in any case.

As a person above me says, different strokes for different people. He may find off roading more fun then taking a sporty car around the track.

A lot of times though you do sacrifice MPG for fun cars. There are exceptions to this rule, but generally speaking it is the case.

 

[codymac]

What is it that I don't get? That only low mileage cars are reliable and non-boring. That is what you just implied and I agree I don't get it! Can you explain that to me?

I don't think I'm quite ready to trade in my 30+ mpg JCW quite yet. It's too much of a blast to drive and has yet to break down, even after driving it hard at the track. Oh yeah, they don't allow SUVs on the track. They're too dangerous.

That's awesome. My track car gets 7mpg on track and my daily driver gets 4mpg on track.

And while this isn't an SUV, I'm passengering in the Tundra in this photo - and no, these weren't parade laps.

My next vehicle will likely be a Land Rover.

 

[RaceTripper]

That's awesome. My track car gets 7mpg on track and my daily driver gets 4mpg on track.

And while this isn't an SUV, I'm passengering in the Tundra in this photo - and no, these weren't parade laps.

My next vehicle will likely be a Land Rover.

The club events I attend (BMW CCA, PCA) don't allow SUVs. I suppose it's good for you there are those that do. I wouldn't want to be on track with a truck, but that's me. BEsides they would hold me up in the corners.

I get about about 10 mpg on track. But my point is I don't have to have a low mpg truck to have fun, which is what the prior claim was.

Enjoy your Land Rover. I hope for your sake you get a reliable one, because that is not something they've ever had a reputation for.

 

[codymac]

The club events I attend (BMW CCA, PCA) don't allow SUVs. I suppose it's good for you there are those that do. I wouldn't want to be on track with a truck, but that's me. BEsides they would hold me up in the corners.

I get about about 10 mpg on track. But my point is I don't have to have a low mpg truck to have fun, which is what the prior claim was.

Enjoy your Land Rover. I hope for your sake you get a reliable one, because that is not something they've ever had a reputation for.

Don't tell the British Army that!


That shot is from a private day on track years ago. I avoid the club events you're talking about since those guys hold me up in the corners.

 

[alphamale]

 

[reberto]

What is it that I don't get? That only low mileage cars are reliable and non-boring. That is what you just implied and I agree I don't get it! Can you explain that to me?

I don't think I'm quite ready to trade in my 30+ mpg JCW quite yet. It's too much of a blast to drive and has yet to break down, even after driving it hard at the track. Oh yeah, they don't allow SUVs on the track. They're too dangerous.

There are a few exceptions the the good MPG/boring rule, but typically they're either very expensive or not on sale in the US. Though I'd kill for a 3dr Fiesta...

Different strokes, dude.
You'll think otherwise when the head gasket fails on that LR disco!

Only the Freelander has headgasket issues. Shows what you know

Enjoy your Land Rover. I hope for your sake you get a reliable one, because that is not something they've ever had a reputation for.

99% of the time it's down the the owner not taking proper care of their car. The P38 Range Rovers are know as some of the most unreliable cars ever made but my uncle has got one with over 200k miles on it and it's never had a single issue.

 

[jcctx]

 

[mmomega]

Hell with the track, my truck gets approx 8-11mpg (diesel f350) and suv has never once touched over 19mpg on the highway (Benz GL450) and I definitely remember gas being over $4/gal where we are and paying over $120 at fill up.

 

[radiantm3]

Love it!

Those are practically death cars.

 

[gullaa]

bmw 323

 

[lewis82]

My parents have the same...

But in silver

 

[GSMiller]

I'd much rather have a car that gets "meh" MPG than one that gets good MPG and breaks down all the time. Or is boring as hell. I bought my 96 Land Rover Discovery when gas was nearing $4/gal (hell I still pay $3.19 a gal for premium for it), but it's in perfect shape mechanically, so the money that I would be spending on fixing the car I spend on gas/having fun.

Some people just don't get it I guess. Sad.

Well said

 

[rezenclowd3]

Today at the Santa Barbara, CA AutoX event in my '96 Audi A4. Honestly it didn't understeer as bad as I thought it would. This was my first time racing a car, besides Forza ;-), and ended up dropping 6 seconds by the end of the day. Had a blast, and will be stoked once I can replace the A4 with an S4 or Vette in the coming years.

 

[radiantm3]

Today at the Santa Barbara, CA AutoX event in my '96 Audi A4. Honestly it didn't understeer as bad as I thought it would. This was my first time racing a car, besides Forza ;-), and ended up dropping 6 seconds by the end of the day. Had a blast, and will be stoked once I can replace the A4 with an S4 or Vette in the coming years.

Nice! Nothing brings out passion for cars more than driving/race events. I'd suggest RWD for your next car. So much more fun.

 

[BeamWalker]

Nice! Nothing brings out passion for cars more than driving/race events. I'd suggest RWD for your next car. So much more fun.

He is halfway there then. I believe the badge on his grill says quattro, so it's AWD.

Audi's are great cars though. Very good build quality and lots of fun to drive (even some of the diesel versions).

 

[rezenclowd3]

Nice! Nothing brings out passion for cars more than driving/race events. I'd suggest RWD for your next car. So much more fun.

Oh I agree. 4wd 50/50 split (Quattro as stated above) proves to push along with the front end heavy car. One 350z crashed at the event, hitting a tree. Was a fluke accident, but having enough RWD power, exciting a "higher" speed chicane onto a VERY dusty straight proved a touch dangerous.

 

[JennaLDS]

My POS Tiburon, well this is a stock image that is identical to mine. I am hoping that it will get stolen or something lol

 

[radiantm3]

Oh I agree. 4wd 50/50 split (Quattro as stated above) proves to push along with the front end heavy car. One 350z crashed at the event, hitting a tree. Was a fluke accident, but having enough RWD power, exciting a "higher" speed chicane onto a VERY dusty straight proved a touch dangerous.

You don't go that fast on an Autox course. I've been on a big autox course with speeds that hit 40-50mph and never even felt close to being dangerous. My car is RWD and pushing over 350hp and closer to 400 lbs of torque (and with traction control off). I'm with you on calling it a fluke. Unsafe course layout/track conditions would be more the cause. Possibly bad driver? AWD cars feel a lot more safe and if you lived where it snows a lot, it's a huge consideration. But in California, RWD is just too much fun to pass up, especially when you really get to push it to the limits in a safe, controlled environment.

 

[rezenclowd3]

^^^ Fully agree, ESPECIALLY about the safe, controlled environment.

 

[renewed]

Chevy Tahoe. Took the stock black grill off and put a factory billet on it.

 

[Cliff3]

Oh I agree. 4wd 50/50 split (Quattro as stated above) proves to push along with the front end heavy car. One 350z crashed at the event, hitting a tree. Was a fluke accident, but having enough RWD power, exciting a "higher" speed chicane onto a VERY dusty straight proved a touch dangerous.

That's mainly evidence of poor course design. Sections where cars might be carrying some speed should not lead them towards obstacles like trees or light standards, either directly or via inertia. Who organized the event?

FWIW, I would much rather have an AWD Audi than a FWD drive Audi. A buddy of mine has an A4 that he has modified fairly heavily and that he tracks with the Audi club. I think he installed new software to change the diff bias further in favor of the rear wheels.

The first Golden Gate chapter (BMWCCA-San Francisco Bay Area) autoX of the season is this Saturday at Marina. Sure hope it doesn't rain...