Pixel 3/Pixel 3 XL

[Roadstar]

I wish the display were more sensitive as my Pixel 3 works with my touchscreen gloves without a screen protector, but as soon as I install a screen protector it stops responding with the gloves on but works fine with bare hands. My iPhone 8, on the other hand, works fine with the same gloves even with a screen protector.

I actually found a solution to this problem. Seems like I had it available all the time, but the right combination wasn't tried until now. I ordered https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07DMDTSVV the same day I ordered my Pixel 3 and I used it initially, but it didn't work with the cheapo touchscreen gloves I had before, and by the time I got some quality touchscreen gloves from my wife for Xmas, the Pixel was already using an allegedly superior Zagg protector that still didn't work with the new gloves. I tried two more protectors and had ordered a couple of more to try when it dawned on me that I hadn't tried the original one with the better gloves and the old gloves don't work with my iPhone like the new ones do, so I took the remaining glass from the original 2-pack (glad I hadn't thrown it away) and put it on. To my surprise it worked pretty nicely. An occasional missed touch here and there, but that seems to be the case with my iPhone too. Still I could get things done without needing to freeze my hands and now there's one less blocker for returning the Pixel 3 to my primary use. Now all I need is a decent WearOS device...

Seems like it was worth it to compile a spreadsheet of the protectors I had tried and how they worked, as it was right then when I realized I hadn't tried one of them with the better gloves.

 

[Michael Goff]

You're overreacting. I haven't had any problems nor have most users.
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The quicker you ignore Drinkingtea, the better the forum gets.

And most people don't run into problems with Samsung phones. Yet this forum is all about that lagwiz.

 

[Awesomesince86]

wait.....so those of us here that HAVE the P3 are saying it doesn't lag and performs great....
But somehow this guy's experience is the gold standard?
Tons of people are having issues with their iPhones with lag and display issues too it is all over Reddit and here on MR....
So should we take from those experiences the same thing you are inferring about the P3?

So maybe the iphone Xs could use more ram as well?
Or are these people lying?
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-xs-lags.2142773/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-xs-momentary-stuttering-after-inactivity.2141542/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/choppy-video-playback-on-iphone-xs-and-xs-max.2140783/

I have the 3 XL and I've also owned several flagship phones from 2018 and the 3 XL has more stutters and lag than any of the others. This is a well documented problem that's consistent across forums.

 

[AustinIllini]

And most people don't run into problems with Samsung phones. Yet this forum is all about that lagwiz.

Whataboutisms are the bottom of the barrel in terms of a counterargument. For all the Pixel/Nexus line problems, lag is fairly far down the list.
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I have the 3 XL and I've also owned several flagship phones from 2018 and the 3 XL has more stutters and lag than any of the others. This is a well documented problem that's consistent across forums.

Wow. Sample size of three. Chuckles abound. Next we can all go fishing into respective reddit feeds to find more complainers. Or anyone who doesn't want the 3XL can go return it and/or sell it and we can all move on.

 

[jamezr]

I have the 3 XL and I've also owned several flagship phones from 2018 and the 3 XL has more stutters and lag than any of the others. This is a well documented problem that's consistent across forums.

Sorry that you have that issue. I have the P3 XL usually average about 10 smartphones a year ( i have a problem )
I also have the iPhone Xs Max (have had every iphone since the first one) I don't notice any stutter or lag on my P3.

If you look at any smartphone...there are some that have issues ...But that is no indicative of the phone as a whole.
There are tons of threads of people with issues with their iphones. But certain people here have no interest in those issues. They have an agenda

But I do notice some here have an agenda...they come here to post negative things about phones they probably will never get. Not saying that is you @Awesomesince86 please understand that .

But there are some that only come here in this section to point out negative things about the Pixel or Samsung phones that they would never post about an iphone in the iphone threads. It's just pure hypocrisy. Especially after they have stated how they prefer IOS as a whole.

 

[slitherjef]

In regards to the "ram issue" the thought about having "only 4gb" in my device really never crossed my mind. Honestly it really has not been the concern for me

Yes, I do understand for the price they could've tossed in another couple gigabites. For the price they could have done better and much more, I do get that argument, it's valid.

But I haven't worried too much about watching my ram max out.

Just my 2gb

 

[drinkingtea]

You don’t have to go “fishing” in Reddit to find complaints about the Pixel 3. The complaints are abound, unlike in the iPhone and Galaxy subreddits.

The only reason I ordered a 3 XL was because of the $450 discount. Otherwise, from everything I’ve read, this phone isn’t worth its regular price at all. I wasn’t even tempted to get it when it had a $200 discount. I have a two-week return period with this phone. I’ll back with my 8 Plus happily if the Pixel gives me issues. I’ve had no problems with my 8 Plus, even after dropping it several times without a case or a screen protector on it.

 

[jamezr]

You don’t have to go “fishing” in Reddit to find complaints about the Pixel 3. The complaints are abound, unlike in the iPhone and Galaxy subreddits.

The only reason I ordered a 3 XL was because of the $450 discount. Otherwise, from everything I’ve read, this phone isn’t worth its regular price at all. I didn’t even want to get it when it had a $200 discount. I have a two-week return period with this phone. I’ll back with my 8 Plus happily if the Pixel gives me issues. I’ve had no problems with my 8 Plus, even after dropping it several times without a case or a screen protector on it.

No need to go fishing to find almost the same issues on an iphone...yet you don't have a problem with iphone issues.
they are right here on MR. sounds like the iPhone could use more ram....
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-xs-lags.2142773/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-xs-momentary-stuttering-after-inactivity.2141542/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/choppy-video-playback-on-iphone-xs-and-xs-max.2140783/


Why would you get a phone you have nothing but negative things to say about? You have stated time and time again how you don't Android and prefer IOS.

I'll go out on a limb and say you don't keep the P3 you ordered

 

[AustinIllini]

This is just so predictable. Let's just agree to drop it. The number of people having major lag problems is negligible on most devices these days regardless of device.

 

[drinkingtea]

This is just so predictable. Let's just agree to drop it. The number of people having major lag problems is negligible on most devices these days regardless of device.

Where is your proof for this statement?

We're talking about one device: the Pixel, not all Android devices. Yes, MOST Android devices might not have lag problems, but ALL Pixels, a particular Android device, can. That's simple logic.

I've posted Reddit links, Tweets from trusty people, and articles about the Pixel issues to support my claims. I've done this for weeks now. Anyone who has disagreed with me here has yet to show me any actual support for their statements. All I get from them (and you) is anecdotal evidence and a "You're wrong." I don't just say something like "most people are having issues with their Pixels" without providing evidence. Otherwise, I have no leg to stand on.

 

[AustinIllini]

Everyone is inventing fantasies but you, huh?
[doublepost=1549828090][/doublepost]The managing editor of Android Police *must* be lying about something, right, AustinIllini?

[doublepost=1549828274][/doublepost]All of these people have to be lying. https://twitter.com/RDRv3/status/1094345113063514112

Did somebody say something? I would reply but....

 

[drinkingtea]

No need to go fishing to find almost the same issues on an iphone...yet you don't have a problem with iphone issues.
they are right here on MR. sounds like the iPhone could use more ram....
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-xs-lags.2142773/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-xs-momentary-stuttering-after-inactivity.2141542/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/choppy-video-playback-on-iphone-xs-and-xs-max.2140783/


Why would you get a phone you have nothing but negative things to say about? You have stated time and time again how you don't Android and prefer IOS.

I'll go out on a limb and say you don't keep the P3 you ordered

I never once said that the iPhone doesn't have RAM issues or any issues, so I'm not sure why you're showing me those links. Cool. The iPhone has RAM issues. My iPhone doesn't have RAM issues, but others definitely could.

I probably will return the 3 XL since most of the issues I've read about with the Pixel 3/3 XL appear a month or so after purchase. I'll give it two weeks, though, and go from there.

 

[noobinator]

My pixels 3 XL isn't perfect but it surely doesn't lag. Almost three months in now.

 

[jamezr]

I never once said that the iPhone doesn't have RAM issues or any issues, so I'm not sure why you're showing me those links. Cool. The iPhone has RAM issues. My iPhone doesn't have RAM issues, but others definitely could.

I probably will return the 3 XL since most of the issues I've read about with the Pixel 3/3 XL appear a month or so after purchase. I'll give it two weeks, though, and go from there.

It goes to show your Apple bias....you don't care about ram issues on iphones...but you are very outspoken about ram issues on Android phones. Then there was no doubt in anyone's mind that you were never going to keep the Pixel you ordered.
You have done nothing but complain about it. why get it at all. You stated you prefer IOS in almost every way....

 

[5105973]

Wow what happened in here while I was spending the day dealing with a whole lotta drama in real life?

No lag for my husband’s Pixel 3XL operational since Christmas Day.

We did get that weird drop out problem on another call between us. This time I was on an iPhone and he was on his Pixel.

I was over looking at that thread about XS Maxes being crap because of their connection problems. My husband and I both had that on our Maxes. But I was very pleased to see many people don’t have any problems at all. Yay Max! A great choice for many people!

It all comes down to individual luck of the draw sometimes. All these companies churn out a few duds. As I was very upfront about in my conversations on this thread, Google does have a reputation right now for putting out more than their fair share of clunkers. But the trajectory is upward and looks promising. Right now though, this may not be everyone’s best bet if it’s the only phone they can fit into their budget and run on an only line. These phones are awesome when they run as plan. My total favorite. But there’s some kinks in their tails.

 

[SapperMike]

Wow what happened in here while I was spending the day dealing with a whole lotta drama in real life?

No lag for my husband’s Pixel 3XL operational since Christmas Day.

We did get that weird drop out problem on another call between us. This time I was on an iPhone and he was on his Pixel.

I was over looking at that thread about XS Maxes being crap because of their connection problems. My husband and I both had that on our Maxes. But I was very pleased to see many people don’t have any problems at all. Yay Max! A great choice for many people!

It all comes down to individual luck of the draw sometimes. All these companies churn out a few duds. As I was very upfront about in my conversations on this thread, Google does have a reputation right now for putting out more than their fair share of clunkers. But the trajectory is upward and looks promising. Right now though, this may not be everyone’s best bet if it’s the only phone they can fit into their budget and run on an only line. These phones are awesome when they run as plan. My total favorite. But there’s some kinks in their tails.

Do you prefer Pixel 3xl over iPhone XS Max?

 

[Awesomesince86]

Whataboutisms are the bottom of the barrel in terms of a counterargument. For all the Pixel/Nexus line problems, lag is fairly far down the list.
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Wow. Sample size of three. Chuckles abound. Next we can all go fishing into respective reddit feeds to find more complainers. Or anyone who doesn't want the 3XL can go return it and/or sell it and we can all move on.

Go ahead and drop the sarcasm and condescension there little guy. Im active in the xda community and there are plenty of complaints there as well as well as from respected tech reporters. For some reason you take negative comments towards the Pixel like theyre insults towards your own children which shows a weird insecurity. It's a phone.

I've noticed a trend of you talking down to people on these boards. Again, I'd love to hear what makes you think your so much more qualified than those here. Especially when I've seen several of your posts where you spew complete nonsense and pass it off as fact.
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It goes to show your Apple bias....you don't care about ram issues on iphones...but you are very outspoken about ram issues on Android phones. Then there was no doubt in anyone's mind that you were never going to keep the Pixel you ordered.
You have done nothing but complain about it. why get it at all. You stated you prefer IOS in almost every way....

You can't compare ram on iPhones to Android phones. It's not an apples to apples comparison. iOS is notoriously more lean and ram efficient. They can get away with less and not have it effect performance. There's a reason why a majority of flagship Android phones shipped with 6gb or more in 2018.

 

[jamezr]

You can't compare ram on iPhones to Android phones. It's not an apples to apples comparison. iOS is notoriously more lean and ram efficient. They can get away with less and not have it effect performance. There's a reason why a majority of flagship Android phones shipped with 6gb or more in 2018.

I agree with you that IOS is more optimised to run on less ram. I think that is a given. But at the same time IOS devices do run into ram issues. Look at the links I have posted in this thread. More ram would have cured those issues.
Apple gets that too...that is why the Xs Max has 4 GB of ram while the X and 8 Plus only had 3GB of ram. Then the 6s Plus only had 2 GB of ram. Apple knows more ram equals better performance.

Should the P3 have had 6GB of ram sure! It couldn't hurt. But with only 4 it still runs pretty damn smooth and provides a great overall user experience.

 

[AustinIllini]

Go ahead and drop the sarcasm and condescension there little guy. Im active in the xda community and there are plenty of complaints there as well as well as from respected tech reporters. For some reason you take negative comments towards the Pixel like theyre insults towards your own children which shows a weird insecurity. It's a phone.

I've noticed a trend of you talking down to people on these boards. Again, I'd love to hear what makes you think your so much more qualified than those here. Especially when I've seen several of your posts where you spew complete nonsense and pass it off as fact.
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You can't compare ram on iPhones to Android phones. It's not an apples to apples comparison. iOS is notoriously more lean and ram efficient. They can get away with less and not have it effect performance. There's a reason why a majority of flagship Android phones shipped with 6gb or more in 2018.

Suffice to say a number of us get annoyed when a handful come in and derail this thread, cite reddit, buy iPhone, and then stick around and act like they still use a Pixel.

I love iOS. I love Android. I cannot stand this ax to grind garbage people bring here. It's ruining this thread.

 

[Awesomesince86]

I agree with you that IOS is more optimised to run on less ram. I think that is a given. But at the same time IOS devices do run into ram issues. Look at the links I have posted in this thread. More ram would have cured those issues.
Apple gets that too...that is why the Xs Max has 4 GB of ram while the X and 8 Plus only had 3GB of ram. Then the 6s Plus only had 2 GB of ram. Apple knows more ram equals better performance.

Should the P3 have had 6GB of ram sure! It couldn't hurt. But with only 4 it still runs pretty damn smooth and provides a great overall user experience.

Ram issues on iOS are less frequent than on Android. And sure, the pixel runs pretty good with 4 gb of RAM. But considering it's a flagship device, with a premium price, there shouldn't be major concessions. The additional cost for Google to include 6 gb of RAM would be so minimal it wouldn't even affect the bottom line. It was a lazy decision. Again, this coming from a pixel 3 owner. So I think the criticism is justified, especially when there are lots of reported issues of stutter, lag, and camera taking forever to launch.

Those doings there are no problem are liars or in denial. Same goes for those that think the device is a piece of junk. It's not.

 

[AustinIllini]

Ram issues on iOS are less frequent than on Android. And sure, the pixel runs pretty good with 4 gb of RAM. But considering it's a flagship device, with a premium price, there shouldn't be major concessions. The additional cost for Google to include 6 gb of RAM would be so minimal it wouldn't even affect the bottom line. It was a lazy decision. Again, this coming from a pixel 3 owner. So I think the criticism is justified, especially when there are lots of reported issues of stutter, lag, and camera taking forever to launch.

Those doings there are no problem are liars or in denial. Same goes for those that think the device is a piece of junk. It's not.

Let's be clear: RAM issues are less frequent on iPhone than on Android devices. iOS and Android don't have RAM. Also, there's only one model which uses iOS (iPhone, even including all their flavors, are still essentially one phone).

The only thing lazy in this post is the RAM argument. It's tired and inaccurate. Please move on.

 

[jamezr]

Ram issues on iOS are less frequent than on Android. And sure, the pixel runs pretty good with 4 gb of RAM. But considering it's a flagship device, with a premium price, there shouldn't be major concessions. The additional cost for Google to include 6 gb of RAM would be so minimal it wouldn't even affect the bottom line. It was a lazy decision. Again, this coming from a pixel 3 owner. So I think the criticism is justified, especially when there are lots of reported issues of stutter, lag, and camera taking forever to launch.

Those doings there are no problem are liars or in denial. Same goes for those that think the device is a piece of junk. It's not.

I'm ok with the price to be honest. You get what you pay for so to speak. Could Google have put an extra 2 GB of ram? Sure they could have...they could also have added a lot of other things too. The Pixel routinely gets price drops of $100 to $150 it seems like about once a month. Which brings it a pretty good bargain if you ask me.

But in the end the Pixel (or Nexus) line has never been about hardware specs. It has always been a blend of hardware and software and the user experience. Hopefully the P4 comes with 6GB this fall.

I hear you though...i wish it had 6GB as well. But imho...it would not have greatly improved my user experience with the P3 XL

Most of my comments have been to the one that comes in here with the sky is falling like drama about the P3 issues.

 

[AustinIllini]

Wow what happened in here while I was spending the day dealing with a whole lotta drama in real life?

No lag for my husband’s Pixel 3XL operational since Christmas Day.

We did get that weird drop out problem on another call between us. This time I was on an iPhone and he was on his Pixel.

I was over looking at that thread about XS Maxes being crap because of their connection problems. My husband and I both had that on our Maxes. But I was very pleased to see many people don’t have any problems at all. Yay Max! A great choice for many people!

It all comes down to individual luck of the draw sometimes. All these companies churn out a few duds. As I was very upfront about in my conversations on this thread, Google does have a reputation right now for putting out more than their fair share of clunkers. But the trajectory is upward and looks promising. Right now though, this may not be everyone’s best bet if it’s the only phone they can fit into their budget and run on an only line. These phones are awesome when they run as plan. My total favorite. But there’s some kinks in their tails.

The connectivity problems on the XS Max were horrible for me. I would randomly get .5 mb down and would have to stop and start cellular connectivity.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Let's be clear: RAM issues are less frequent on iPhone than on Android devices. iOS and Android don't have RAM. Also, there's only one model which uses iOS (iPhone, even including all their flavors, are still essentially one phone).

The only thing lazy in this post is the RAM argument. It's tired and inaccurate. Please move on.

I don't need terminology and how the technology behind smartphones explained to me. I have computer and electrical engineering degrees and my profession is as a software and process engineer.

And it's funny you consider a lazy argument when a majority of the tech sites and reviewers that judge phones for a living had reserves about ram when the phone was released and have complained about keeping apps in memory (ram issue), failure to save photos (system freeing up resources to handle picture processing), and lag when opening/closing apps (system constantly attempting to free up ram).

 

[Harthag]

Three weeks in with the 3XL as my daily driver and still no major issues. I've taken lots of photos and haven't gotten any camera lag. I don't get stutter or lag during general use. Occasional micro stutter when opening Google Play app.

I do experience a really annoying bug that I've emailed to Google twice now. The weather status on the home screen / AOD screen. If I leave my town and travel say over 100 miles I get no weather display. I traveled out of state over the weekend and it happened again. I got back home yesterday, weather magically appears again. Anyone have a fix for this?

Battery life still stinks, it is so variable. Sometimes I'll get 5+ hours screen time, other times I'll get 2.

I've had no RAM issues. I've recently tried playing PUBG mobile and can switch between that and email or messages or Chrome just fine. Sure if I opened PUBG and 3 other games I'd get stutter or lag, but that's not my usage so it doesn't bother me.

After rolling with the device for the past 3 weeks I'm glad I got it for $600 (Best Buy paid down payment of $300). I don't think any Android is worth more than $600 but that's another discussion. I'd be annoyed yet still accepting if I paid full price, considering you're getting guaranteed timely updates. Which is important to me.