Pixel 3/Pixel 3 XL

[spinedoc77]

Ha.

But laughs aside, that's yet another Google-hardware issue: quality control. I hope they invest in better panels for the 3.

Rumor has it that Google is using LG again for panels, really the only other contender for that job is Samsung and they are tied up with the iPhone. Well... I did read another rumor that Apple was going to get their OLED panels from LG as well because Samsung was gouging them. Hmm, 2018 may turn out to be the year of crappy screens for everyone.

Pixel 3:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Pixel-3-XL-design-leak_id106121

Google Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL leak out entirely in new 360-degree renders

Wow that's horrible, I just cannot understand the huge chasm between Google and reality. The pixel 1 or 2 didn't exactly fly off the shelves, even though they had them with carriers, marketed them heavily and enjoyed huge raves among the tech elite for having vanilla android. Those bottom bezels are atrocious. While I'm actually a notch fan, that notch is way too tall. At least it looks like they tamed the side bezels. But seriously, for a company that raised the price of their in house phone so much, they have parted with reality by making such junk. At this point Google must think it's HTC or something, oh wait did HTC design these for Google?

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

Interesting. What's made you turn away from the curved screens?

1) There is a slight discoloration around the edges.
2) It feels like lost space in all apps, and it bothers me seeing text curve off the screen in the browser.
3) I sometimes get false touches when scrolling in some apps because it registers my palm or fingers touching the scrollbar on the right side of the screen and it starts jumping down .
4) And then contrary to #3, sometimes the screen rejects intentional scrolling because my palm is touching an edge and I have to change the way I'm holding my phone for it to register.

Not a day goes by that I don't wish this screen wasn't curved. There is no benefit to it, IMO.

 

[torana355]

I would love to go back to a stock Android device for a change but Googles hardware is a joke, the XL3 takes ugly to a whole new level. I guess ill be sticking with Samsung for the foreseeable future. Good news is the Samsung experience is actually really good these days and Samsungs hardware is top notch.

 

[epicrayban]

If you can't get enough of Pixel 3 size comparisons, more here: http://techusiast.com/2018/06/09/53...-against-2018-flagships-renders-by-techusiast

This particular comparison highlights that the Pixel 3 really should have been the Pixel 2.

And yea... really wondering why that 3 XL notch is so deep. Google is taking notches to a whole new level of ugly.

 

[slitherjef]

If you can't get enough of Pixel 3 size comparisons, more here: ..really wondering why that 3 XL notch is so deep. Google is taking notches to a whole new level of ugly.

Maybe because the iPhone has "deeper pixels" so Google wants deeper notches?

Seriously though,
It's probably because the front facing top speaker.

I'm not even sure about this thing anymore, or Google itself, the whole of Android is growing seemingly more apple-esque in form and function.

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I've still been thinking on picking up the one plus 6 to give a slightly different spin of Android a try.

 

[Aneres11]

That Pixel 3 (non XL) is looking mighty delicious.

If I find that there is a single lens in it and the 3 XL ends up with two then I will be seriously unhappy. Like seriously.

If they pull a stunt like that then I will lose my ****.
Although it's looking too perfect for the regular 3 at the moment. No notch, not much bezel (but enough to make it comfortable in hand) and a bigger screen than the current Pixel 2.

It will end in tears I reckon. Nothing stays that promising and ends up being so in the tech world!

 

[epicrayban]

That Pixel 3 (non XL) is looking mighty delicious.

If I find that there is a single lens in it and the 3 XL ends up with two then I will be seriously unhappy. Like seriously.

If they pull a stunt like that then I will lose my ****.
Although it's looking too perfect for the regular 3 at the moment. No notch, not much bezel (but enough to make it comfortable in hand) and a bigger screen than the current Pixel 2.

It will end in tears I reckon. Nothing stays that promising and ends up being so in the tech world!

Agree that it would be frustrating if the 3 XL model gets a dual camera set up. But if you believe the Pixel 3 leaks, you might as well believe the 3 XL leaks -- I think both models will sport a single back camera. That's unfortunate in its own way.

For me, the deal breaker will be if it doesn't have wireless charging. That just puts the Pixel 3 hardware way too far behind the competition at similar price points (years behind, just like Apple was years behind on wireless charging for some time, too).

Truthfully, the Pixel 3 models should include:

-dual cameras
-6GB of RAM
-wireless charging
-And IP68 waterproofing.

This shouldn't be viewed as some fanboy wishlist. With perhaps the exception of the 6GB of RAM, these specs should be the standard in 2018 -- more specifically, late-2018. Pixel devices are really competing with upcoming 2019 devices. That's how they should be positioned, but Google disagrees.

Like I've said before, it's like they want to be behind on hardware.

 

[Aneres11]

Yeah it's true - it is like they want to be behind with hardware.

The RAM thing doesn't bother me as I don't have issues with the current RAM in the Pixels.
I also don't care for wireless charging, or waterproofing. However, that doesn't mean that I don't think these features should be there.
They absolutely should, to compete with the other manufacturers.

However, my wish list is basically an improved camera (hopefully with dual cameras despite how unlikely that appears), and a bigger screen, reduced bezels and no notch.
But who knows what we'll end up getting!

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

My thought on the reason for the larger notch is so that if you turn on an option to black out the top of the screen -- to effectively hide the notch -- it will be equal in proportion to the bottom bezel.

One Plus 6 is that way too.

 

[epicrayban]

My thought on the reason for the larger notch is so that if you turn on an option to black out the top of the screen -- to effectively hide the notch -- it will be equal in proportion to the bottom bezel.

One Plus 6 is that way too.

You may be right. It may just be hard to tell from the renders that the notch and bottom bezel are equal heights.

In my opinion, that is a series of bad design decisions by Google. Front firing speakers lead to requiring bigger bezels, which leads to requiring a deeper notch just to emulate symmetry.

Also, anyone else wondering why Google is putting a notch in one but not the other? I'm eager to hear what they have say about that. I hope it comes up.

 

[Macalicious2011]

The RAM thing doesn't bother me as I don't have issues with the current RAM in the Pixels.

Few people push their phone hardware to the limit. Last month I shot, editing and stitched together 4 two minutes 4K clips on my Pixel 2 XL. This is the sort of work one would have bought a Macbook Pro for 3-5 years ago but can now remarkably do on a smartphone with just 4GB RAM.

However as apps like Instagram and Facebook get more cluttered with animation, videos and high rez clips, 4GB could be stretched in 2020. After all, you can your expensive phone to be a bit future proof.

 

[Michael Goff]

Few people push their phone hardware to the limit. Last month I shot, editing and stitched together 4 two minutes 4K clips on my Pixel 2 XL. This is the sort of work one would have bought a Macbook Pro for 3-5 years ago but can now remarkably do on a smartphone with just 4GB RAM.

However as apps like Instagram and Facebook get more cluttered with animation, videos and high rez clips, 4GB could be stretched in 2020. After all, you can your expensive phone to be a bit future proof.

Throwing more and more power at Facebook is what is leading to Facebook being sent the biggest power drain.

 

[Michael Goff]

You know what would make future Pixels an easier recommendation? Google making their own SoC. Can you imagine if a chip was made by the people who intimately know how Android runs?

 

[JaySoul]

TBH I'm so happy with my Pixel 2 XL, I can't see my wanting a 3 XL - it would take something spectacular in for me to jump.

The design, couldn't really care less about right now. The only thing I can really see making me salivate is a huge camera upgrade, so let's see.

More interested to see the other stuff like Pixel Buds 2, Pixel Watch, Pixelbook 2 etc.

 

[nviz22]

You know what would make future Pixels an easier recommendation? Google making their own SoC. Can you imagine if a chip was made by the people who intimately know how Android runs?

Probably at least 2 years away from that. By that time, I can see Google making a much more stronger offering against an iPhone. I am officially out on the Pixel 3/3XL myself. It's just straight iOS for phone use for me since I rather not play the QC waiting game with Google.

 

[akash.nu]

You know what would make future Pixels an easier recommendation? Google making their own SoC. Can you imagine if a chip was made by the people who intimately know how Android runs?

As in what Apple is all about.

Probably at least 2 years away from that. By that time, I can see Google making a much more stronger offering against an iPhone. I am officially out on the Pixel 3/3XL myself. It's just straight iOS for phone use for me since I rather not play the QC waiting game with Google.

We need to understand that Apple and google operate on completely different business models. Spending R&D on mainstream hardware is just not something google want to do I believe.

 

[Michael Goff]

As in what Apple is all about.



We need to understand that Apple and google operate on completely different business models. Spending R&D on mainstream hardware is just not something google want to do I believe.

They hired a whole boatload of chip designers, so it could happen. They're making the PVC already, for example. Also, yeah, what Apple does if it makes you feel better.

 

[Aneres11]

I legit don't think I can cope if the Pixel 3 (smaller) ends up looking delicious like the renders, they release a Pixel Watch AND do a PixelBook 2.

I don't have that kind of money.

I couldn't even save that kind of money.

But the chances are I will NEED these products.
Oh God. Send help.

 

[FFR]

They hired a whole boatload of chip designers, so it could happen. They're making the PVC already, for example. Also, yeah, what Apple does if it makes you feel better.

They also bought Motorola. Didn’t do much with that.

2-3 million smartphones a year wouldn’t be profitable enough to warrant their own processor.

 

[Michael Goff]

They also bought Motorola. Didn’t do much with that.

2-3 million smartphones a year wouldn’t be profitable enough to warrant their own processor.

They should either go all in or go home.

 

[FFR]

They should either go all in or go home.

I agree, but they don’t have to.

Advertising accounts for 28 billion in revenue for the quarter.

Other revenue which includes google hardware(pixels,google home, cromecast etc.), nest, and it’s cloud business, came in at 4.4 billion.

It’s not even close.

 

[The Game 161]

No wireless charging would be a big fail..

 

[epicrayban]

No wireless charging would be a big fail..

Agree. It would be a deal-breaker for me. It would put the Pixel 3 painfully behind on this feature. And worse, painfully behind while still charging premium prices.

Honestly, the Pixel 3 is shaping up to be disappointing -- it's just enough of an update to barely keep up with the competition. To me, it looks like Google just doesn't want to try.

A premium priced smartphone coming out in late 2018 should be equipped with:

-wireless charging
-dual cameras
-6GB RAM
-high storage options
-3.5 headphone jack
-IP68 waterproofing

There really should be no excuse for anything less.

And good god, when are they going to design a nice looking phone? From giant bezels to an atrocious notch, if rumors prove right, it'll be three consecutive generations of terrible design.

 

[nviz22]

As in what Apple is all about.



We need to understand that Apple and google operate on completely different business models. Spending R&D on mainstream hardware is just not something google want to do I believe.

Whether if you have the truest bleeding edge or just something contemporary enough to skate by, there are less excuses for poor quality control. If you're one of the most premier tech firms around, sloppy work is not appreciated. This includes Apple with the temperature issues on the iPhone X.

 

[The Game 161]

Agree. It would be a deal-breaker for me. It would put the Pixel 3 painfully behind on this feature. And worse, painfully behind while still charging premium prices.

Honestly, the Pixel 3 is shaping up to be disappointing -- it's just enough of an update to barely keep up with the competition. To me, it looks like Google just doesn't want to try.

A premium priced smartphone coming out in late 2018 should be equipped with:

-wireless charging
-dual cameras
-6GB RAM
-high storage options
-3.5 headphone jack
-IP68 waterproofing

There really should be no excuse for anything less.

And good god, when are they going to design a nice looking phone? From giant bezels to an atrocious notch, if rumors prove right, it'll be three consecutive generations of terrible design.

What’s frustrating for me is they just don’t want to market it well enough to compete sales wise.

In UK you can only buy this on contract with EE they are missing a big trick unless EE has all the rights but that wouldn’t make sense.

It’s a shame as for me it’s the best android phone you can buy and the closest for ones who are looking at leaving Apple.