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mclld

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Is there anyway to tell if a Pixel 7 is the Google Play version or factory unlocked version? I am going to look at one tomorrow and the seller says it is factory unlocked
 

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The one you buy directly from Google. I don't care really I just want to make sure it isn't some carrier version that could be blacklisted
 

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The one you buy directly from Google. I don't care really I just want to make sure it isn't some carrier version that could be blacklisted
I don't think it's called a Google Play edition..? Didn't they stop Google Play Edition phones many years ago? Before the Pixel existed.

As far as I know all Pixel from Google are just unlocked models.
 

Technerd108

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I don't think it's called a Google Play edition..? Didn't they stop Google Play Edition phones many years ago? Before the Pixel existed.

As far as I know all Pixel from Google are just unlocked models.
No Google sells different versions. They have major carrier editions which are sim locked and an unlocked version.

If you go into settings, about phone and then to SIM card status it should say what network it is registered. If you have a SIM card just ask the seller if you can verify if it will work with your carrier and put your sim in it. It will tell you right away if it is locked.
 

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For those of you that have been using the Pixel 7 / 7 Pro, how has the fingerprint scanner been? If it’s still struggling, does Face Unlock work pretty good?

I like the 14 Pro, BUT, I’m sort of missing tinkering with the Pixel / Android. Thinking about picking another Pixel 7 up.
 

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For those of you that have been using the Pixel 7 / 7 Pro, how has the fingerprint scanner been? If it’s still struggling, does Face Unlock work pretty good?

I like the 14 Pro, BUT, I’m sort of missing tinkering with the Pixel / Android. Thinking about picking another Pixel 7 up.

It has been ok, but coupled with face unlock, it has been pretty good. You can’t use face unlock for banking transactions and some other things, but it at least handles the numerous times I open to check email or send messages.
 
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It has been ok, but coupled with face unlock, it has been pretty good. You can’t use face unlock for banking transactions and some other things, but it at least handles the numerous times I open to check email or send messages.
Thanks for the prompt response! I had two different Pixel 6 (non-pro models) last year and the Pixel 6a, and I gave up on all of them because of the fingerprint scanner just not working for me. I tried, I gave it my due diligence, but I ended up figuring out that my dry hands aren't any help, either.
 
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aggie99

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For those of you that have been using the Pixel 7 / 7 Pro, how has the fingerprint scanner been? If it’s still struggling, does Face Unlock work pretty good?

I like the 14 Pro, BUT, I’m sort of missing tinkering with the Pixel / Android. Thinking about picking another Pixel 7 up.
I've found the FPS to be really good on my 7 Pro. I didn't have many issues with the one on the 6 Pro like some people did, but I can tell this one is more reliable and seems a bit faster than the 6 Pro.
 

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For those of you that have been using the Pixel 7 / 7 Pro, how has the fingerprint scanner been? If it’s still struggling, does Face Unlock work pretty good?

I like the 14 Pro, BUT, I’m sort of missing tinkering with the Pixel / Android. Thinking about picking another Pixel 7 up.
The FPS has been really good. It's faster unlocking the phone with nearly 100% accuracy. Is it as fast as a rear FPS? No, but the improvement between the Pixel 6 series and the Pixel 7 series is very welcomed and I still have a Pixel 6 along with my 7 Pro. Face Unlock works great but it does suffer in low light conditions. I don't own an iPhone but it seems Apple has the better tech there. If you are in decent lighting conditions, Face Unlock works fast, 100% of the time.

There is hope that Face Unlock may come to the 6 series, fingers crossed.
 
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Thanks for the prompt response! I had two different Pixel 6 (non-pro models) last year and the Pixel 6a, and I gave up on all of them because of the fingerprint scanner just not working for me. I tried, I gave it my due diligence, but I ended up figuring out that my dry hands aren't any help, either.
I know what you mean. I live in hot/humid sunny Florida and with sweaty or moist fingers, forget the FPS. I decided to just disable the FPS altogether.
 
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Bkdodger

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Is there anyway to tell if a Pixel 7 is the Google Play version or factory unlocked version? I am going to look at one tomorrow and the seller says it is factory unlocked
What carrier is the person currently using ? Pixel 7 has two models GVU6C and GQML3 ...ONLY difference is GQML3 supports both Sub-6GHz and mmWave 5G...now you can purchase this one unlocked or from Verizon / ATT so I would just make sure you can pop in SIM and works as well ...
 
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I know what you mean. I live in hot/humid sunny Florida and with sweaty or moist fingers, forget the FPS. I decided to just disable the FPS altogether.
In my personal experience with the Pixel 6 / 6a that I had previously owned, the fingerprint scanner was very inconsistently unreliable. I had to spend more time thinking about the proper placement of my thumb and wondering if it'd decide to work or not, sometimes it'd fail even if I knew I had it directly in the right spot! Yes, I went through the updates, yes I re-enrolled my fingerprint a billion times. It just didn't work for me.

The FPS has been really good. It's faster unlocking the phone with nearly 100% accuracy. Is it as fast as a rear FPS? No, but the improvement between the Pixel 6 series and the Pixel 7 series is very welcomed and I still have a Pixel 6 along with my 7 Pro. Face Unlock works great but it does suffer in low light conditions. I don't own an iPhone but it seems Apple has the better tech there. If you are in decent lighting conditions, Face Unlock works fast, 100% of the time.

There is hope that Face Unlock may come to the 6 series, fingers crossed.
That's good to hear about the Pixel 7, and I'm glad that they've brought Face Unlock to the table. It's a bummer that it struggles in lower lighting conditions, but I doubt that'll be too much of an issue, personally. I've just found a great deal on a basically brand-new Pixel 7 in Lemongrass, so I'll be picking that up in the next day or two!

I've been tinkering with the OnePlus 10 Pro for the past week or two - I really like it and I LOVE OxygenOS / ColorOS 13, too, but it doesn't support eSIM and that's just a hassle, so I'm going to be selling it. Furthermore, I know it's as easy as going into T-Mobile and switching to a SIM card, it'd just be a hassle to switch between eSIM and physical SIM, and frankly I'm not ready to dump the iPhone, I'd like to easily switch between the two devices.
 

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So after almost two months with my 7 Pro (launch day) I thought I would share some thoughts on this phone as someone coming to it from a Samsung and having had an iPhone prior to that.

Good things

First things first: the design. I went for hazel and adore it The hazel tone is of course in the fashionable mainstream of muted shades, but together with the champagne gold it makes for a hell looker of a phone, very elegant and maybe even a bit understated. Also, I have to say I prefer glossy glass to frosted one. Previously I had the Note20 Ultra in Bronze as that was the only one with frosted glass and I wanted to try it out, but never really liked it that much. One practical advantage of the glossy back is that, at least in my hand, it provides for a better grip.

Camera. The main camera is great. Lots of processing going on in the background, of course, but it does its work just as advertised. I travel quite a lot and take many pictures and some of them really blew me away. For low-light, you should really use the nightsight (at least the shortest exposure), otherwise you will end up with visible noise, but this was to be expected. Zooming capabilities are really good - I wanted to have a dedicated 5x optical, but the 10x SuperRes zoom is very impressive. I am not a big fan of controls of the stock camera app, so that's one disadvantage. The only thing about the camera which left me unimpressed is the front facing one as it still has only fixed focus which I think is a bit embarrassing for a flagship in 2022.

Battery. Maybe this will surprise some, but I find it pretty great. I was never able to make it through a day with the Note20 Ultra, here it is not a problem at all. Roaming or 5G make it a bit more difficult while travelling, but I am still very satisfied with the battery life.

Other than the above, I do not think there are any specific things which stand out. Yes, the phone is smooth, but show me a brand new 2022 phone (let alone a flagship) which is not smooth. By comparison, it is clearly faster than the Note, but it is not that the Note has become particularly sluggish.

Bad things

Even though my overall opinion of this phone is rather favorable, there is quite a list of things which I really do not like.

Bugs. Jesus. F. Christ. This phone reminds me of my launch day iPhone X which did all the crazy sh*t you could imagine and they only managed to figure out all of the bugs a few months later. So what I get very often are things like notification center on which you cannot swipe up again to hide (so you have to lock the screen and unlock the phone), not being able to get to multitasking or back to the homescreen through swiping up (so only swiping to the sides is possible; the same solution as previously), some switches in the control panel living their own life when pressed, certain apps which will not change the orientation automatically. Finally, when I turn on the camera by double-clicking on the power button and try to zoom in on something, it often happens that the camera turns off and I am on the lock screen again. There also also others which I honestly cannot really remember now. These are all minor annoyances at which I roll my eyes when they happen, but I think this is a bit unserious considering this is a friggin Google phone with friggin Google software. Worse though - over these two months the phone randomly froze or rebooted a few times. The craziest bug - the display just would not turn on, while the rest of the phone (e.g. the buttons or the loudspeaker) was still operable. As already mentioned - an experience similar to the X. At the same time nothing like that has ever happened on the Note.

Software. Well, I guess I am not a fan of pure Android and this explains all of my annoyances I have experienced. First, home screen management - the icons are pretty small for a display this big, while, at the same time at the top and the bottom of the screen we have non-removable elements of the UI. If the top one which displays the date, weather etc. is pretty useful, I think I have never used the google search bar over my time with the phone. In a way, this is even worse than iOS. Of course you can use a launcher, but I hate these, to be honest. Then, certain limited ways to personalize how the phone behaves. I think I might be pampered after coming from a Samsung, but well... My favorite example is that of the screen which can be only 'automatized' in limited scenarios (so e.g. I cannot set that the display should be at less than 30% brightness after 10pm - or I do not know how to? Send help; the AOD will only turn itself automatically on and off againg if the Bedtime routine is turned on. But then the display is turned off so well that it does not even show me that the phone started to charge after I have put it on the charging plate...). Finally, some default apps. Chrome on Android is a joke and sucks so bad I literally downloaded Samsung Internet and have been using it as my browser. There is no default music player - and this is important for a person like me who has its own music and extends the library by buying new staff. The only built-in player is YT Music which is clearly intended only for pushing the subscription service and not really of any use when someone wants to listen something from the files saved directly on the phone. Google Photos is not that bad, but the editing tools are a bit limited and some of the edits take very long time to load + you have to save a separate copy of an edited picture in certain cases (why? I do not know, will be grateful for any logical explanation...). Finally, the files management is a bit strange when using third party apps - so e.g. when uploading a picture to Instagram (or to this forum, for that matter), I will not be able to open Google Photos, but will have to scroll through the files - is this really how people at Google like it?

Fingerprint reader - so if the one on the 6 Pro was significantly worse than this one, then I do not want to imagine that. This one is just fine, but still considerably slower than the ultrasonic reader from the Note and it happens not to recognize my finger more often. Also, more often than not it struggles in low light conditions. Good they brought back face recognition, so this speeds up unlocking.

Screen. In general absolutely fine, but brightness is rather underwhelming. Usually I am at around 75% and more, while Samsung was more than fine already at 50%.

Charging. Possibly not going to surprise anyone, but it is terribly slow. I remember already Samsung was bashed for slow charging rates (which was a bit exaggerated to me as I could charge my Note within an hour with a 25W charger), but the Pixel is even slower.

Pixel/Samsung/iPhone

Some call Pixel the iPhone of Android and, in my opinion, rightfully so. Both the iPhone and the Pixel feel like a bit primitive tools - of high quality but with a limited range of applications. Even though my last iPhone was the X, I have used a 13 Pro for a while so I think my experience with the latest iPhones is pretty up-to-date. Samsung on the other hand offers almost everything. The user finds himself in the cocoon of the functions and options which they will possibly not even have to search for on any of the appstores as the phone can possibly do this already on its own.

The most shocking thing to me is that in all of this Samsung offers the best user experience among these three. Countless ways to individualise the phone and make it respond to even the most elaborate whims plus impressively polished software with literally zero bugs make me thing of Samsung as the safest choice out there now. Considering that the most hated phone I have ever had is also a flagship Samsung (S III which was a total crap after a year of use), this is an impressive feat. This leaves the Pixel and the iPhone in a bit of a strange position. Both companies control both hardware and software, and still are not able to really make sure that their products work as they should and not regularly bother users with absolutely pathetic bugs.

Tl;dr/Conclusion

So tl;dr when it comes to Pixel: absolutely beautiful hardware, truly brilliant main camera (or actually all three lenses) and satisfying battery life are definitely the most important advantages. Embarrassing bugs and certain software limitations are definitely a letdown and there is still some room to improve the hardware. All in all I am happy with the phone, but if I someone asked me right now 'would your next phone be a Pixel?' then I would possibly respond 'no'. Anyway, I think Google is really heading into the right direction and slowly figuring out the flagship market - the 7 Pro looks the part and is a direct competitor of the 14 Pro and the S22 Ultra, no doubt about that. I guess the fact that Google is slowly extending the availability of Pixel also means they want to make further steps towards a global expansion.

P.S. My free Watch has arrived to a friend of mine in Germany about a week ago (they would not deliver to Austria), so I should get it soon and will try to sell it (although might be a tall order) as I have no interest in this kind of gadgets, but I definitely appreciate this kind of a gift from Google.
 
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Technerd108

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So after almost two months with my 7 Pro (launch day) I thought I would share some thoughts on this phone as someone coming to it from a Samsung and having had an iPhone prior to that.

Good things

Firs things first: the design. I went for hazel and adore it The hazel tone is of course in the fashionable mainstream of muted shades, but together with the champagne gold it makes for a hell looker of a phone, very elegant and maybe even a bit understated. Also, I have to say I prefer glossy glass to frosted one. Previously I had the Note20 Ultra in Bronze as that was the only one with frosted glass and I wanted to try it out, but never really liked it that much. One practical advantage of the glossy back is that, at least in my hand, it provides for a better grip.

Camera. The main camera is great. Lots of processing going on in the background, of course, but it does its work just as advertised. I travel quite a lot and take many pictures and some of them really blew me away. For low-light, you should really use the nightsight (at least the shortest exposure), otherwise you will end up with visible noise, but this was to be expected. Zooming capabilities are really good - I wanted to have a dedicated 5x optical, but the 10x SuperRes zoom is very impressive. I am not a big fan of controls of the stock camera app, so that's one disadvantage. The only thing about the camera which left me unimpressed is the front facing one as it still has only fixed focus which I think is a bit embarrassing for a flagship in 2022.

Battery. Maybe this will surprise some, but I find it pretty great. I was never able to make it through a day with the Note20 Ultra, here it is not a problem at all. Roaming or 5G make it a bit more difficult while travelling, but I am still very satisfied with the battery life.

Other than the above, I do not think there are any specific things which stand out. Yes, the phone is smooth, but show me a brand new 2022 phone (let alone a flagship) which is not smooth. By comparison, it is clearly faster than the Note, but it is not that the Note has become particularly sluggish.

Bad things

Even though my overall opinion of this phone is rather favorable, there is quite a list of things which I really do not like.

Bugs. Jesus. F. Christ. This phone reminds me of my launch day iPhone X which did all the crazy sh*t you could imagine and they only managed to figure out all of the bugs a few months later. So what I get very often are things like notification center on which you cannot swipe up again to hide (so you have to lock the screen and unlock the phone), not being able to get to multitasking or back to the homescreen through swiping up (so only swiping to the sides is possible; the same solution as previously), some switches in the control panel living their own life when pressed, certain apps which will not change the orientation automatically and others which I cannot really remember now. These are all minor annoyances at which I roll my eyes when they happen, but I think this is a bit unserious considering this is a friggin Google phone with friggin Google software. Worse though - over these two months the phone randomly froze or rebooted a few times. The craziest bug - the display just would not turn on, while the rest of the phone (e.g. the buttons or the loudspeaker) was still operable. As already mentioned - an experience similar to the X. At the same time nothing like that has ever happened on the Note.

Software. Well, I guess I am not a fan of pure Android and this explains all of my annoyances I have experienced. First, home screen management - the icons are pretty small for a display this big, while, at the same time at the top and the bottom of the screen we have non-removable elements of the UI. If the top one which displays the date, weather etc. is pretty useful, I think I have never used the google search bar over my time with the phone. In a way, this is even worse than iOS. Of course you can use a launcher, but I hate these, to be honest. Then, certain limited ways to personalize how the phone behaves. I think I might be pampered after coming from a Samsung, but well... My favorite example is that of the screen which can be only 'automatized' in limited scenarios (so e.g. I cannot set that the display should be at less than 30% brightness after 10pm - or I do not know how to? Send help; the AOD will only turn itself automatically on and off againg if the Bedtime routine is turned on. But then the display is turned off so well that it does not even show me that the phone started to charge after I have put it on the charging plate...). Finally, some default apps. Chrome on Android is a joke and sucks so bad I literally downloaded Samsung Internet and have been using it as my browser. There is no default music player - and this is important for a person like me who has its own music and extends the library by buying new staff. The only built-in player is YT Music which is clearly intended only for pushing the subscription service and not really of any use when someone wants to listen something from the files saved directly on the phone. Google Photos is not that bad, but the editing tools are a bit limited and some of the edits take very long time to load + you have to save a separate copy of an edited picture in certain cases (why? I do not know, will be grateful for any logical explanation...). Finally, the files management is a bit strange when using third party apps - so e.g. when uploading a picture to Instagram (or to this forum, for that matter), I will not be able to open Google Photos, but will have to scroll through the files - is this really how people at Google like it?

Fingerprint reader - so if the one on the 6 Pro was significantly worse than this one, then I do not want to imagine that. This one is just fine, but still considerably slower than the ultrasonic reader from the Note and it happens not to recognize my finger more often. Also, more often than not it struggles in low light conditions. Good they brought back face recognition, so this speeds up unlocking.

Screen. In general absolutely fine, but brightness is rather underwhelming. Usually I am at around 75% and more, while Samsung was more than fine already at 50%.

Charging. Possibly not going to surprise anyone, but it is terribly slow. I remember already Samsung was bashed for slow charging rates (which was a bit exaggerated to me as I could charge my Note within an hour with a 25W charger), but the Pixel is even slower.

Pixel/Samsung/iPhone

Some call Pixel the iPhone of Android and, in my opinion, rightfully so. Both the iPhone and the Pixel feel like a bit primitive tools - of high quality but with a limited range of applications. Even though my last iPhone was the X, I have used a 13 Pro for a while so I think my experience with the latest iPhones is pretty up-to-date. Samsung on the other hand offers almost everything. The user finds himself in the cocoon of the functions and options which they will possibly not even have to search for on any of the appstores as the phone can possibly do this already on its own.

The most shocking thing to me is that in all of this Samsung offers the best user experience among these three. Countless ways to individualise the phone and make it respond to even the most elaborate whims plus impressively polished software with literally zero bugs make me thing of Samsung as the safest choice out there now. Considering that the most hated phone I have ever hated is also a flagship Samsung (S III which was a total crap after a year of use), this is an impressive feat. This leaves the Pixel and the iPhone in a bit of a strange position. Both companies control both hardware and software, and still are not able to really make it sure that their products work as they should and not bother users with absolutely pathetic bugs each day.

Tl;dr/Conclusion

So tl;dr when it comes to Pixel: absolutely beautiful hardware, truly brilliant main camera (or actually all three lenses) and satisfying battery life are definitely the most important advantages. Embarrassing bugs and certain software limitations are definitely a letdown and there is still some room to improve the hardware. All in all I am happy with the phone, but if I someone asked me right now 'would your next phone be a Pixel?' then I would possibly respond 'no'. Anyway, I think Google is really heading into the right direction and slowly figuring out the flagship market - the 7 Pro looks the part and is a direct competitor of the 14 Pro and the S22 Ultra, no doubt about that. I guess the fact that Google is slowly extending the availability of Pixel also means they want to make further steps towards a global expansion.

P.S. My free Watch has arrived to a friend of mine in Germany about a week ago (they would not deliver to Austria), so I should get it soon and will try to sell it (although might be a tall order) as I have no interest in this kind of gadgets, but I definitely appreciate this kind of a gift from Google.
Great review! Very honest and balanced.

I have a Samsung Galaxy s22 plus and I was really thinking of ditching it or my 13 pro max and as much as I like vanilla Android I think I might just stick with my s22 plus for a while.

I have had a few Pixels and stopped at the 5. Bugs have been a pretty consistent theme with Pixel phones. I had nexus phones back in the day and I really loved them.

I actually really disliked the latest update from Apple on iPhone. It still bothers me so I find myself using my s22 plus a lot more recently.

I agree pretty much with everything you said. Pixel is great. Google reminds me a lot of Microsoft. The surface devices kind of mirror the Pixel although I think Windows is a lot more stable but considering most of what is underneath the hood hasn’t changed all that much in years I expect that. But the hardware is like halfway there. Take the laptop 5. It looks the same as the last several iterations. They didn’t upgrade the screen to 120hz, ports are basically the same with exception of a thunderbolt port and the bezels are the same. The processor choice is okay but no major redesign and the hardware is a bit limited.

I want Google to go all in. Spend more money on the device. They are so close but things like optical fingerprint scanner and screen tech from a few years ago just don’t sit well. The design is beautiful and iconic. Slight improvement in Tensor 2 is good but bigger improvements would have been welcome. The slow charging.

If they would have charged a bit more like $949 and added faster charging, including a charger, better telephoto, ultrasonic fingerprint sensor, better screen and really, really focus not just on new features in feature drops but stability. Stability might be a bit boring but it is the most important thing in a phone because of a feature you need is glitching at a critical moment it can really be bad. Add five years of OS upgrades and 6 year’s security patches and I would switch over in a heartbeat.

Right now if I got rid of the devices I have I have to give up a feature or two and pay on top of it for the pleasure. Both of the older devices I have are actually faster as far as the SOC is concerned and both have better screens although one is only 1080p.

Samsung has really focused on stability and on features and it is a great combination. My main gripe with Samsung and it is a major one for me is all of the bloatware. All I ask for is for Samsung to allow me to uninstall all added 3rd party apps and all duplicate apps during setup. Let me choose one app for each activity like Google messages and let me uninstall Samsung messages. And so on. But it is a small complaint overall.
 

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No Google sells different versions. They have major carrier editions which are sim locked and an unlocked version.

If you go into settings, about phone and then to SIM card status it should say what network it is registered. If you have a SIM card just ask the seller if you can verify if it will work with your carrier and put your sim in it. It will tell you right away if it is locked.
Ah in the UK Google doesn't have different versions, they just sell the unlocked model.

I was thinking back to the Google Play Edition HTC M8 lol.
 
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hallux

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For those of you that have been using the Pixel 7 / 7 Pro, how has the fingerprint scanner been?
Mine has been working great. I'm using a cheap screen protector (it came with a case, which I don't happen to be using), but I installed the protector before even powering on the phone for the first time so my fingerprint was registered with the screen protector installed, which may be key. I don't even have the extra touch sensitivity enabled and I find it works very well.
 

_karrol

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Great review! Very honest and balanced.

I have a Samsung Galaxy s22 plus and I was really thinking of ditching it or my 13 pro max and as much as I like vanilla Android I think I might just stick with my s22 plus for a while.

I have had a few Pixels and stopped at the 5. Bugs have been a pretty consistent theme with Pixel phones. I had nexus phones back in the day and I really loved them.

I actually really disliked the latest update from Apple on iPhone. It still bothers me so I find myself using my s22 plus a lot more recently.

I agree pretty much with everything you said. Pixel is great. Google reminds me a lot of Microsoft. The surface devices kind of mirror the Pixel although I think Windows is a lot more stable but considering most of what is underneath the hood hasn’t changed all that much in years I expect that. But the hardware is like halfway there. Take the laptop 5. It looks the same as the last several iterations. They didn’t upgrade the screen to 120hz, ports are basically the same with exception of a thunderbolt port and the bezels are the same. The processor choice is okay but no major redesign and the hardware is a bit limited.

I want Google to go all in. Spend more money on the device. They are so close but things like optical fingerprint scanner and screen tech from a few years ago just don’t sit well. The design is beautiful and iconic. Slight improvement in Tensor 2 is good but bigger improvements would have been welcome. The slow charging.

If they would have charged a bit more like $949 and added faster charging, including a charger, better telephoto, ultrasonic fingerprint sensor, better screen and really, really focus not just on new features in feature drops but stability. Stability might be a bit boring but it is the most important thing in a phone because of a feature you need is glitching at a critical moment it can really be bad. Add five years of OS upgrades and 6 year’s security patches and I would switch over in a heartbeat.

Right now if I got rid of the devices I have I have to give up a feature or two and pay on top of it for the pleasure. Both of the older devices I have are actually faster as far as the SOC is concerned and both have better screens although one is only 1080p.

Samsung has really focused on stability and on features and it is a great combination. My main gripe with Samsung and it is a major one for me is all of the bloatware. All I ask for is for Samsung to allow me to uninstall all added 3rd party apps and all duplicate apps during setup. Let me choose one app for each activity like Google messages and let me uninstall Samsung messages. And so on. But it is a small complaint overall.

When it comes to the iPhone, I ditched it in 2020 because the 12 Pro was a disappointing upgrade for me and Samsung really tempted me at that time. Two years later and I am still not even thinking of coming back, although, as you can see, I am pretty adventurous switching between OS and manufacturers over the last years :) Apart from the fact that the upgrades on the iPhone became very minor, this year's price hike in Europe is just not acceptable (I would have to pay €1,449/$1530 for a 14 Pro Max equivalent to my 7 Pro which set me back €900/$950).

I think Google has been following a pretty inconsistent strategy with the Pixel. After the first three generations everyone was thinking they were in for the long haul when it comes to the flagship phones, but then the 4th gen was just underwhelming and the 5th a proper mid-ranger... This is not how you build a good image, imho, but I hope this last switch with the 6 and the follow-up this year are a sign of the things to come. Also, considering all the other stuff they have brought to the market in the meantime (Buds, Watch) and what they will soon bring (Tablet, a foldable Pixel), it seems they are now devoted to hardware for good and I am kinda keeping fingers crossed for that.

Btw, I actually did not think Samsung had that much of a bloatware - at least definitely less than it used to have many years ago! Anyway, as you mentioned, it is a pretty minor compliant anyways as adjusting these things does not really take much time. I will for sure consider the S Ultra in the first place when upgrading from the Pixel in a few years time. Also funny how Samsung is now offering more OS/security patches than Google itself lol.

P.S. I avoid talking about Microsoft products. The Surface Laptop 3 was my previous work laptop and that was hands down the worst piece of crap I have ever used 😂
 

Technerd108

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When it comes to the iPhone, I ditched it in 2020 because the 12 Pro was a disappointing upgrade for me and Samsung really tempted me at that time. Two years later and I am still not even thinking of coming back, although, as you can see, I am pretty adventurous switching between OS and manufacturers over the last years :) Apart from the fact that the upgrades on the iPhone became very minor, this year's price hike in Europe is just not acceptable (I would have to pay €1,449/$1530 for a 14 Pro Max equivalent to my 7 Pro which set me back €900/$950).

I think Google has been following a pretty inconsistent strategy with the Pixel. After the first three generations everyone was thinking they were in for the long haul when it comes to the flagship phones, but then the 4th gen was just underwhelming and the 5th a proper mid-ranger... This is not how you build a good image, imho, but I hope this last switch with the 6 and the follow-up this year are a sign of the things to come. Also, considering all the other stuff they have brought to the market in the meantime (Buds, Watch) and what they will soon bring (Tablet, a foldable Pixel), it seems they are now devoted to hardware for good and I am kinda keeping fingers crossed for that.

Btw, I actually did not think Samsung had that much of a bloatware - at least definitely less than it used to have many years ago! Anyway, as you mentioned, it is a pretty minor compliant anyways as adjusting these things does not really take much time. I will for sure consider the S Ultra in the first place when upgrading from the Pixel in a few years time. Also funny how Samsung is now offering more OS/security patches than Google itself lol.

P.S. I avoid talking about Microsoft products. The Surface Laptop 3 was my previous work laptop and that was hands down the worst piece of crap I have ever used 😂

I understand what you mean about inconsistencies with Google hardware. I had a Google Chrome OS tablet with keyboard and a few months after I bought it they discontinued it. I had Nexus tablets and I loved them then they stopped making tablets.

I had several Pixels and the hardware has always been midrange even when they were trying to compete in flagship space. Their software has been more and more buggy over time which was the main advantage they had with middling hardware.

It is hard for me to trust Google at this point. Since hardware is not their primary focus and they have just dropped full product lines I think it is hard to see them as a serious competitor to Apple or Samsung.

Now with the Tensor, the watch and possibly a tablet it seems that they are trying to get serious again and I hope that they really commit and stop half a$$ing the hardware. They may have to have slimmer profit margins but they need to produce amazing hardware and clean up the bugs. They can be an Apple but they need to focus, commit for a few iterations of their phones, watches and tablets, even if sales aren't great at first. Keep offering competitive prices.

I would love to get a Pixel phone again. T mobile has been an absolute nightmare in customer service as I have been trying to unlock my iPhone 13 Pro max for 3 weeks now. My contract is over, I have paid the device in full, so there is no reason it shouldn't be unlocked. They told me because I bought it from BestBuy that BestBuy had something to do with unlocking, then they transferred me to Apple, I have been on the phone and so many departments it has made me really frustrated and furious at T mobile.

So I was very close to just trading in the iPhone for a Pixel 7 Pro. But there are a lot of reasons I want to keep the 13. Now that the holiday sales are over the trade in on my Samsung s22 plus just doesn't make sense.

The Surface Laptop 4 on heavy discount was a nice device. I had an AMD 4th Gen model and it was snappy, had great screen and speakers and decent battery life and build quality was excellent as I had the black model all aluminum. The clean version of windows was great and all driver updates were part of regular windows updates. They also had as new ISO image of each version of Windows that you could make a bootable USB and install a clean fresh version of windows each new release. So my take is different than yours. It is the clean software that is close to stock the Surface and Pixel share. A lot of people don't seem to care about bloatware but I used to install custom rooms and root just to get the crapware off my phone. Over time with updated all these unnecessary apps start slowing down your phone. I like a clean OS where only apps I use are installed.
 
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Heat_Fan89

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I would love to get a Pixel phone again. T mobile has been an absolute nightmare in customer service as I have been trying to unlock my iPhone 13 Pro max for 3 weeks now. My contract is over, I have paid the device in full, so there is no reason it shouldn't be unlocked. They told me because I bought it from BestBuy that BestBuy had something to do with unlocking, then they transferred me to Apple, I have been on the phone and so many departments it has made me really frustrated and furious at T mobile.
Based on what you said, I would never deal with a T-Mobile phone. That is strictly a T-Mobile matter. Best Buy just sells the phone and T-Mobile puts the padlock on the device. I remember chatting with a Best Buy rep as I wanted a 13 Pro Max but they were all carrier specific. He told me that the carrier is the one to unlock the phone. One thing you could try is doing a chat with a BB employee and have the chat session sent to your email. Then show it to T-Mobile.

I considered buying a phone from Xfinity and they told me, they unlock the phone once it is paid off. So it is the carrier's responsibility to unlock their phone. I would get upper mgmt involved on that. Escalate the problem to upper mgmt if you are not getting the results you are after.
 

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Does anyone know why when using Google Assistant while the phone is locked it won't go away after? It stays open until I turn the screen off with the power button or tap elsewhere on the screen.

Tried every "solution" online and still won't go away after.
 

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Pixel 7 has been my primary for a few weeks now. Even though I like the extra camera abilities on the 14 Pro iPhone, I am considering selling mine and going single phone style until Apple FINALLY WAKES UP AND PUTS IN USB-C.

I currently use my iPad Mini for mobile photo editing / social media for clients, so the overhead of the 14 Pro is nonsensical due to the price of entry. I can tether the iPad to the Pixel just as easily as I can the iPhone for mobile internet. Sadly the Pixel still is unable to talk to my modern Canon Cameras as well as iOS devices do.
 
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