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Now this report is interesting to me. Especially the part about a flagship Pixel 9 Pro with a 6.3” screen with all the same specs of its big brother. I would kill for a smaller-type phone like this.
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Exclusive: Here’s Google’s entire 2024-2025 roadmap for Pixel phones
We have obtained exclusive information related to Google's planned roadmap for the Pixel phone series from 2024 through 2025.
I’m not convinced Google knows that flagship means. They have cut corners on hardware since the first Pixel device. It would be a welcome change if they offered an actual flagship level device. But the skeptic in me thinks they would still cut corners on hardware.
Curious on the 7 Pro, what hardware corners do you feel were skipped?
This is certainly high level flagship at last from Google. Not sure what they are really missing. Maybe better battery efficiency but using tensor it won't be as strong upcoming SD gen 2
The 7 Pro is without question a true flagship phone. Could it be better? Maybe but that would be nit-picking at this point. Perhaps Google could incorporate the latest and greatest camera instead of relying on it's software AI but then again the current setup rivals and beats the best iPhone's and Samsung Galaxy phones. So why bother doing that when it will only increase the cost to the consumer? Google's strategy at this point is selling tons of Pixel's on price instead of giving the customer a pause as to whether they should go Apple or Samsung for a flagship phone. I think that is a smart strategy when you can buy a flagship phone and save $200-300. That doesn't even include a Pixel or other phone trade in.
Could they include a better FPS sensor under the display? Sure but the 7 Pro's sensor is 80% better than that on the 6 series whether it is a direct result of a better sensor or AI software. Cost could be a factor.
Could they move to an all aluminum body like Apple? Sure but I personally don't want to buy a phone that looks like an iPhone, which everyone and their Mom owns one. I like to be different and I want my phone to look different.
The new design language introduced with the 6 series looks and reeks Google. I am total happy with the 7 Pro. It is a fantastic phone for the price, made even better with a $300 trade in on a Pixel 4a that cost $349 and $200 store credit.
There really shouldn't be a whole lot to criticize here unless you think they should just give the phone away for free.
Something you will never see Apple do.
A reason why I don't buy Apple things. Their discounts are a joke and Im really not a fan of the still lacking iOS.
Hmm. I think my Pixel is confused...
Christmas has been and gone, Google!
Christmas has been and gone, Google!
I'd rather have great software utilizing the hardware's potential Vs cutting edge hardware with sub standard software.
I truly believe in UX over specs.
It would have been great if he/she told us where Google cut corners because the complaint(s) are generic and cliche. As it stands it's just throwing a bowl of spaghetti at the ceiling to see what sticks.
A proper ultrasonic fingerprint scanner, a power efficient screen that doesn’t destroy battery life, uniform bezels, a flat screen instead of a gimmicky curved screen, every phone has its issues but the pixel 7 pro has quite a few
You're just churning out preferences here - not 'issues'. Lets not confuse the 2.
The fingerprint scanner has been fine on the 7 series (for me) and for many others. I have had zero issues with battery life.
The bezels, again preference, same as the flat / curved display. These are not 'issues'. If they are - buy something else, there's plenty of other options on the market.
There is no such thing as a perfect smartphone. Every individual user looks for different things. But your list is just a load of things you don't like about the Pixel and are not widespread 'issues'. It's a bit desparate.
Yeah I agree those are NONE of those are issues but preferences. The battery on my 7 Pro is really good and last least one whole day before charging. The curved screen, some like it, some don't, so that's not an issue. Google probably went with this because it makes the phone slightly wider. The FPS is really, really good. For me it is 100% accurate but as with all under the screen FPS it is NOT as fast as a FPS mounted on the rear. Those are instantaneous and also 100% accurate unless one's finger is moist or is slightly wet. I have two Samsung tablets and the FPS is on par with the 7 Pro. It's not instantaneous but quick enough. Heck on my iPad with Touch ID I find that it's about the same as the 7 Pro and Samsung, reading my digit.
And for those that really hate the in screen FPS, there's Face Unlock which is fast to unlock. In low level light not as much but at least I don't have to deal with a Notch.
Personally I have had no issues with the FPS. Works just fine in most cases
As for curved displays what flagship has a flat display? iPhones that’s it
My biggest complaint With pixel 7 pro is bad charging speed
Anybody used the official case from google at all? Anybody recommend? I here it’s very slippery
I'm going from previous Google cases and it does feel kind of slippery.. but I did get used to it but it wasn't my favorite case and it kind of caught a few fingerprints... As for the conversation on the phone itself being flagship, I think this is the best Google phone to date and it's a flagship quality phone ... Everybody has their preferences I understand it so what might not be issues for me others will feel differently, I don't find anything wrong with this phones FPS is perfect for me. It's spot on 99.9% of the time ..curve screen. That's a preference. I don't have a problem with that myself. The screen looks beautiful to me.. it's not a perfect phone but then again there is no perfect phone.. I don't have a problem with the battery but I do see where sometimes it does drain a little extra to my liking.. I'm always near a charger and most days it makes it to the end of the day from an overnight charge..
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What can you get for $899 from Apple? The iPhone 14 Max. It has the same design as the 13, with the same chip but a larger display. It is a decent phone but for what you are getting it is expensive. No Promotion, no always on display, no dynamic island, no stainless steel, no a16 and for $100 more you can get the Pro with all of those features.
Meanwhile Google Pixel 7 Pro starts at the same price as the Max. It has the latest Tensor G2, better cameras, newer design over P6P, better display with 120hz dynamic refresh rate, always on display, better fingerprint sensor and new face unlock.
Google had sales on their entire line twice since release which made the Pixel 7 Pro cost $749 which is cheaper than the regular iPhone 14. Add the very decent trade in value for certain phones and the price of entry is even lower. Even if you compare the Pixel 7 at $499 to the iPhone 14 at $799 that was a $300 price difference. The Pixel 7 offers the same Tensor that is in the Pro not a year old chip like Apple, 90hz display, new design, better display than last year.
As for being a flagship phone the Pixel 7 line is absolutely a flagship. What is it missing to make it not a flagship and what flagship out there offers as much for as little cost? Is everything bleeding edge latest version? No but Apple uses a 60hz screen, notch, and a15 which is not the latest Apple chip and no one says it is not a flagship phone? I think most of the people that say Pixel is not a flagship are just trying to throw shade and picking out specs they heard about but they haven't actually used the phone and if they did they already had a strong bias going in.
They are grasping at straws now that Google has released the best phone line yet and at prices they wish they could have paid for a Pro device or regular device.
Meanwhile Google Pixel 7 Pro starts at the same price as the Max. It has the latest Tensor G2, better cameras, newer design over P6P, better display with 120hz dynamic refresh rate, always on display, better fingerprint sensor and new face unlock.
Google had sales on their entire line twice since release which made the Pixel 7 Pro cost $749 which is cheaper than the regular iPhone 14. Add the very decent trade in value for certain phones and the price of entry is even lower. Even if you compare the Pixel 7 at $499 to the iPhone 14 at $799 that was a $300 price difference. The Pixel 7 offers the same Tensor that is in the Pro not a year old chip like Apple, 90hz display, new design, better display than last year.
As for being a flagship phone the Pixel 7 line is absolutely a flagship. What is it missing to make it not a flagship and what flagship out there offers as much for as little cost? Is everything bleeding edge latest version? No but Apple uses a 60hz screen, notch, and a15 which is not the latest Apple chip and no one says it is not a flagship phone? I think most of the people that say Pixel is not a flagship are just trying to throw shade and picking out specs they heard about but they haven't actually used the phone and if they did they already had a strong bias going in.
They are grasping at straws now that Google has released the best phone line yet and at prices they wish they could have paid for a Pro device or regular device.
You can get the Zagg d30 case directly from Zagg for $9.99 and free shipping. Might be something to consider.
I am using a Spigen hybrid clear case and it is really nice. A lot of TPU to cushion the phone and buttons feel great.
Most cases I have seen don't really have a big enough lip for the screen or back cameras. Curved screens make the edges more vulnerable and unless you get a defender style case you really need some type of screen protector.
Amazon has tons of cases, some of which are pretty good. I would avoid the ones that use hard plastic shell right next to the phone. You want TPU or similar next to the phone and a hard shell on the outside of the TPU.
The Pixel 7 Pro is definitely better than Googles previous attempts in this regard. But there’s still weak biometrics (bad optical FP sensor and tacked on face unlock) as well as Google still using an outdated modem compared to the majority of android smartphones at cheaper price points.
There’s a lot of tangents here based off things I didn’t say.
I said I don’t trust Google to make a flagship level phone and not cut corners because they have never done so. The Pixel 7 Pro is definitely their best attempt, so hopefully things are trending in a better direction and I think they are, but let’s not forgot the entire Pixel lineup until this point. Great software plagued by cut corners with hardware. Early on it was lack of ram, small batteries, outdated design. Hell just last year they used a several year old modem that was barely ever used in the US and a FP sensor that was bad at best.
My issue with excusing the cut corners because of sale price is that the corners they’re cutting don’t offer them major savings. Just like it never made sense early on when they refused to add more than 4gb of ram to their phones. RAM is incredibly cheap.
I never said the P7 was a bad phone. The topic was Google matching Apples model which is having base model phones and pro model phones. If they go that route, they can’t cut corners on hardware.
If I were to ever stray away from Apple, I think my concern would be less about the hardware and more about the software investment. I think the hardware is good enough to be happy with the phone but I worry more about investing in Google software and them killing a feature or even a product that I really like. I guess that is the good thing about Android in that if that happens, you can just go buy a Galaxy phone, but it is comforting knowing that with Apple I pretty much know what I'm gonna get.
But the same can be said of Apple. Apple is notorious for skimping on RAM. They sell some of their Macs as a base line with just 8GB of memory and 256GB of storage and charge a premium price. They also skimp on the iPad's. They are selling their current 10th gen iPad with 4GB of RAM and start at 64GB of storage. Skimping is not just a Google thing. Samsung also does the same. I own a Galaxy Tab S7+ and S7 FE. The FE version has no haptics and FPS.
As far as biometrics go, all of them with the exception of rear FPS are all half arsed. My premium top of the line Galaxy Tab S7+ also has the FPS in the display. It is not an instantaneous read. My iPad's with Touch ID are not instantaneous either. They both require a bit of time until they recognize my digit. The only FPS that works for me 100% of the time and reads it in an instant are the rear sensors. The rest are nowhere in the same league as those found on the back of the phone.
As far as matching Apple, that will never happen because that involves convincing Apple users and that is a lost cause. I say that because the iPhone brand is a juggernaut. It's trendy and hip to own an iPhone. The iPhone runs iOS and Google runs Android. Even if you match Apple with great designs, you still have to convince an Apple user that Android is just as secure as iOS or that Google messages is pretty good with or without green bubbles. That's the problem when you try and go against the mighty iPhone. There's more to the design that determines whether one buys an iPhone or buys a Pixel. Personally I have a disdain for the iPhone's rear camera bulge. It keeps getting bigger and bigger every year. I personally think that Google's eye catching designs have been great starting with the 6 series.
It is better for Google to concentrate on doing things that attract new buyers. Ideas such as Google Assistant, call screener, Google recorder, Google AI. That's where Apple lacks in quality and Google impresses. That's what keeps me buying Google products and I have, not yet purchased an iPhone. There are people that love style over substance. The iPhone crowd is guilty of style. I watch release iPhone unboxing and 90% of the video and comments are based around the new colors and how cool they are. There's never any mention how Siri is still stuck in 2010 even though it was Apple's idea and Google just ran with it.
I do like how Siri talks to me when I'm not asking for anything from her lol..
I think there are some good points made on both sides... At the end of the day it's good to have choices well at least on the Android side. And if you're lucky enough to carry on both sides, you get to enjoy a little bit of what's best on each platform and phone..
I actually think (and this purely my opinion) Google has the better all round ecosystem at this point due to the fact that they now have the Pixel Phone/Watch/Buds combo, the better assistant and have a wider range of smart home products.
I said it a couple of years ago that it was all about eyes on the product and they’ve made big strides since the 6/6 Pro and i can see them going even further now with the 8/Pro.
I said it a couple of years ago that it was all about eyes on the product and they’ve made big strides since the 6/6 Pro and i can see them going even further now with the 8/Pro.