Just updated a few minutes ago ...Got the January update last night. Great job Google.
Just updated a few minutes ago ...Got the January update last night. Great job Google.
I generally agree with Awesomesince86. I’ve owned every Pixel and each one has had issues.You guys keep latching on to certain things I’m saying out of context of the original argument.
First, you guys all have a short memory when it comes to Google. They’ve cut corners on hardware literally since they started making phones. Pixel 7 was the best offering to date by far when it comes to hardware. But let’s not forget about every other Pixel device.
Second, my original comment about not delivering flagship hardware was if they decided to follow the lineup and price structure of Apple (which is what the original article was about). That would mean increasing the price of Pro level devices and make argument was if they go that route they can’t cut corners on hardware. They need to have top of the line everything like Samsung and Apple put in their phones. Not 3 year old modems, outdated biometrics, or the same camera sensors they had been using for 5 years.
So you think Googles hardware is on par with Apple and Samsung when it comes to build quality and specs? Seriously? Put aside software, I’ve said a million times I think Pixel software is by far the best on the market. Put cost aside, because in the context of the conversation, it was about if Google raised prices to match Apples lineup and pricing. Build quality, specs, materials, tech is all newer in Samsung and Apple devices. Google tends to use older tech (modem, FP sensor, display, camera sensor). You think they’re flagship because Google software bridges the gap so well.
We’re all talking ourselves in circles at this point so no need to continue. I think Google are behind the curve when it comes to hardware. You guys don’t. Fair enough. I’m rooting for you guys to be right and for hardware to get better. If I had google software on a Samsung built device I would never pick up an iPhone again.
I generally agree with everything that you have said.I generally agree with Awesomesince86. I’ve owned every Pixel and each one has had issues.
In general, I think Google has made 1 or 2 head-scratching decisions with each iteration of the phone. They are starting to change that with the 6 or especially the 7-series, and you can’t beat the value for the price. But in terms of overall package, iPhone hardware is still superior IMO and iOS vs Android is largely preference.
- Pixel: Bluetooth was bad. Frequently had issues with dropped connections on my headphones whereas iPhone worked fine.
- Pixel 2XL: screen wasn’t great
- Pixel 3XL: Terrible RAM management. Had constant redraws and apps closing. Google cut corners by only going with 4GB RAM, although I think there might have been a kernel issue since the 3a I got a few months later was fine.
- 4 series: Questionable battery life decisions…less than 3000mah on the smaller 4 + adding all the Soli stuff??? Why?? My 4XL had decent battery life and I enjoyed the face unlock, but it didn’t compare to my 11 Pro (IMO the best battery life in a phone I’ve owned).
- 5 series: this was fine, but definitely a mid-ranger device.
- 6 series: FP sensor isn’t great, lot of complaints about network and dropped calls. Battery life is okay.
- 7 series: not much to complain about, but the FP sensor still isn’t great. I had times where it worked 20% of the time and other times where it was fine. For a premium phone, this should be working without the user having to think about the moisture level of their fingertip.
If Google wants to compete at the $1k price point, they need to clean up a few things (better biometric functionality, add LIDAR for better autofocus in low light, better video, improved performance). I think they are better off competing at a lower price point than Apple and relying on their software prowess to cover any minor hardware shortcomings.
Right. I just don't understand the complaints about the FPS. Mine is as solid as any under display FPS I've used on any device. Maybe I'm just lucky.I generally agree with everything that you have said.
Although my fingerprint scanner works about 90% of the time. I rarely have any problems with it. I also have a Samsung Galaxy s22 plus and it has a supposedly superior ultrasonic fingerprint scanner but it is nowhere near as reliable as the P7P. The s22 is maybe 60% reliable or accurate.
No you’re just lying. Google make subpar devices EVERYONE KNOWS IT WE MUST PROVE IT!!! 😜Right. I just don't understand the complaints about the FPS. Mine is as solid as any under display FPS I've used on any device. Maybe I'm just lucky.
You just have good fingerprints! The FPS on the Pixel 7 works just fine for me. I just add the sames prints a couple times just to make sureI guess I have good hands lol FPS works pretty much 99% of the time and in all my apps ..I hear y'all on having it better for ALL though ..I'm improving on it ...
It’s the web.. if there was nothing to complain about, what else would they do? Lol Once those who complain come to realization that every flagship isn’t prefect and the OEM strives to address their devices shortcomings annually… they will be better off.FPS on pixel 7 pro is flawless to me. No better and no worse than what is on the S22 ultra for example. I'm sure the vivo with the extra space is better but i can't understand why people would moan about 7 pro. 6 pro? yes i get that as it wasn't great but the 7 for me is a big improvement.
I have obsidian or black.I finally got to see a Pixel 7 Pro in person! It was gorgeous. Unfortunately the display is not friendly to me at all. I couldn’t focus properly on it. I’m not sure exactly what the issue is but it’s the same as with my Pixel 6 Pro. I suppose it’s due to pwm.
I tried a Z Flip 4 and an S22 Ultra and was fine. I had a bit of trouble with the S22 display though. I really do have to be careful when I buy new phones.
However, all that being said, it was a nice size and looked and felt premium to me. I have a serious case of envy. It was a really gorgeous phone. It was the black one.
Supposedly the pwm on S22 Ultra is also poor 240hz, but consistent. That may be why I'm ok on it. If it jumps around too much on a Pixel, that may be what causes me problems. I'm not sure what is causing my issues with OLED AND LCD displays on iPhones.I have obsidian or black.
That really sucks about the display. This was from Android Authority,
"For those who are sensitive to pulse-width modulation (PWM), the Pixel 7 Pro stepped down its PWM frequency from 360 Hz to 240 Hz"
I wonder if the default settings would make a difference with adaptive brightness enabled by default vs just a static setting? Also the default resolution is 1080p and you have to change it to 1440p?
It is a great phone but considering how you use the spen a lot on the s22 ultra I think it is a better phone for your needs.
I love my Pixel a lot and the display scored #3 of current flagship devices.
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I particularly like the color temperature.
However when the s23 ultra comes out it might best them all. Hopefully they will not have changed the PWM or anything else in that regard. I heard rumors that Samsung is going to charge 20-30% more for the s23 series. I don't believe it but that is one of the rumors.
I have gotten to the point where it is either, Pixel, Samsung s series or iPhone. We all know Samsung and Apple make some of the best hardware.
What made me get the Pixel beyond the hardware is the Tensor G2 and the software. Tensor IMHO is the future for SOC as AI integration plays a bigger and bigger role moving forward. Also the chip design is not just designed with Benchmarks in mind but real world use. I want to see continued innovation like better GPU and newer cores but I like the dual x cores moderately clocked with dual high performance cores and 4 low power cores. This keeps throttling to a minimum and still provides stellar performance. The AI features are really cool like call screening, voice to text, the on screen menus while on a call, etc. If Google puts arm 9 x2/3 on 3nm next year and a better GPU then Tensor will be impressive. People complain about the performance but in real world it is fast and benchmarks the same as 8 gen 1 in multi core and not too far away in single core but in Vulcan gou tests about 30% lower than adreno.
The Samsung s23 series with 8 gen 2 should be pretty significant upgrade in just one generation like 60% better depending on the metric from 8 gen 1. Samsung will overclock it and add cooling to the s23 series. So it should be much faster and not throttle. I am pretty excited but Samsung needs to keep the price the same.
I heard there were some Bluetooth connection issues and the updates were stopped...I have the Google version Pixel 7 Pro and still no January update available for me
The only thing I'll say, every phone has their issues. I have the iPhone 14 Pro Max and this has been by far the buggiest iPhone I've ever owned. Random freeze ups, apps crashing, etc. It's not so frequent that I can't function, but not used to this kind of behavior on an iPhone.So I have two little things which bothered me a bit.
The first one - my Pixel froze entirely twice this week and I had to reboot it as it was not responding to any commands. Once it even rebooted itself, but still was not responsive. While bothering, this has only happened using one particular dating app, so maybe it is just a sign from above I should leave it and be forever alone 😂 anyways, this has never happened on the N20U over the two years I had it, so Pixel is losing in the ranking of my favorite phones so far. I actually thought I would possibly go back to iPhone when the time comes to replace my phone and then ultimately decide, what I like best and just stick to it - so an iPhone, a Samsung or a Pixel.
The second one - what th is going on with the camera glass issue? Has anyone done more reading on this? Are only people in very cold environments affected or is it just some typical '-gate' that just comes up for a moment and then disappears because in the end there were just a few, negligible complaints? Pretty interesting, as Google is not accepting warranty claims for that.
My daughter has had her iphone 14 Pro brick hard. She awoke to a completely dead phone and we don't know how or why. I don't really know what my husband did exactly to get it working again. She's had some trouble with it, especially Bluetooth. My 14 Pro Max so far has been pretty good. It was my 13 Pro that was buggy. So I'm not sure if there's a hardware or software issue at play with the problems some of us are seeing.The only thing I'll say, every phone has their issues. I have the iPhone 14 Pro Max and this has been by far the buggiest iPhone I've ever owned. Random freeze ups, apps crashing, etc. It's not so frequent that I can't function, but not used to this kind of behavior on an iPhone.
Agree 100% on the 14PM being the buggiest iPhone. Its actually the buggiest phone I have at the moment. Thinking about finding me a 13PM as the esim crap also annoys the hell out of me.The only thing I'll say, every phone has their issues. I have the iPhone 14 Pro Max and this has been by far the buggiest iPhone I've ever owned. Random freeze ups, apps crashing, etc. It's not so frequent that I can't function, but not used to this kind of behavior on an iPhone.
I've seen the camera glass issue reports on reddit. I just don't see how it can be a widespread issue. Also seen the cold environment theory. Most of the time that wouldn't affect me being in the Dallas area but it got pretty cold here around Christmas (in the single digits) and I was in Park City, UT for 10 days skiing with temps also reaching single digits. Dropped it in the snow a couple times. No issue.So I have two little things which bothered me a bit.
The first one - my Pixel froze entirely twice this week and I had to reboot it as it was not responding to any commands. Once it even rebooted itself, but still was not responsive. While bothering, this has only happened using one particular dating app, so maybe it is just a sign from above I should leave it and be forever alone 😂 anyways, this has never happened on the N20U over the two years I had it, so Pixel is losing in the ranking of my favorite phones so far. I actually thought I would possibly go back to iPhone when the time comes to replace my phone and then ultimately decide, what I like best and just stick to it - so an iPhone, a Samsung or a Pixel.
The second one - what th is going on with the camera glass issue? Has anyone done more reading on this? Are only people in very cold environments affected or is it just some typical '-gate' that just comes up for a moment and then disappears because in the end there were just a few, negligible complaints? Pretty interesting, as Google is not accepting warranty claims for that.
I have read that some people surmise the camera shatter problems are due to the metal around the glass expanding and contracting in response to temperature shifts to a degree that stresses the glass enclosed within.So I have two little things which bothered me a bit.
The first one - my Pixel froze entirely twice this week and I had to reboot it as it was not responding to any commands. Once it even rebooted itself, but still was not responsive. While bothering, this has only happened using one particular dating app, so maybe it is just a sign from above I should leave it and be forever alone 😂 anyways, this has never happened on the N20U over the two years I had it, so Pixel is losing in the ranking of my favorite phones so far. I actually thought I would possibly go back to iPhone when the time comes to replace my phone and then ultimately decide, what I like best and just stick to it - so an iPhone, a Samsung or a Pixel.
The second one - what th is going on with the camera glass issue? Has anyone done more reading on this? Are only people in very cold environments affected or is it just some typical '-gate' that just comes up for a moment and then disappears because in the end there were just a few, negligible complaints? Pretty interesting, as Google is not accepting warranty claims for that.
Mine has done the same thing as your daughter's several times. Did it once while I was driving and using navigation through Carplay. Talk about a PITA. Had to pull over and do a hard reset. Had to do some combination of pressing the volume buttons and the power buttons but it finally came back to life.My daughter has had her iphone 14 Pro brick hard. She awoke to a completely dead phone and we don't know how or why. I don't really know what my husband did exactly to get it working again. She's had some trouble with it, especially Bluetooth. My 14 Pro Max so far has been pretty good. It was my 13 Pro that was buggy. So I'm not sure if there's a hardware or software issue at play with the problems some of us are seeing.