My biggest problem with planned obselence part is the planned part, to be honest. I forget if I already said that.
Proves my point that you have poor eyesight. The only thing you see is a misalignment in timing.They should be synced. It's a false representation of what people are conveying to be the problem.
That's not a solution but a workaround. A solution would be to develop updates that actually make iOS perform better (= fast and smoother).Seems like quite a few people would prefer it the other way around, given the vocal posts in various iOS 9 threads (as well as similar ones in iOS 8 threads shortly after it came out, and iOS 7 threads shortly after it came out, etc.).
That said, yes, the ability to downgrade would certainly be a welcome change (even if it's not really a realistic one to even really hope for).
Proves my point people are see things that aren't there.Proves my point that you have poor eyesight. The only thing you see is a misalignment in timing.
Sorry bro. Post a 60fps video.Here is a video I just recorded. Where is the lag and stutter?
Here is a video I just recorded. Where is the lag and stutter?
Both of our iPhone 6's will be 3 years old when the iPhone 7 drops this year with iOS 10.
http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/I don't think they ever said that it would make older devices faster. Anyhow my iPad mini 3 isn't doing to great on iOS 9 but it does have a 2 year old chip. If I didn't have the 6S plus and the Air 2 I probably wouldn't notice how slow it is. On it's own it isn't that bad it's just if I've gotten off one of the newer devices and then use the mini 3 it's a bit meh.
Faster and more responsive.
The apps in iOS 9 now take advantage of Metal, making more efficient use of the CPU and GPU to deliver faster scrolling, smoother animation, and better overall performance. Email, messages, web pages, and PDFs render faster. And multitasking features on iPad feel fluid and natural.
Well I stand corrected. Thanks for showing me this.
Or maybe people don't WANT to see them because of religious love for a companyProves my point people are see things that aren't there.
It is a conscious and intended decision to not optimise for year old hardware knowing the consequencesIt's not planned, it just happens, because no one will support your device forever. In that sense you can say it is planned, but it is not like they just consciously decided to do that.
You don't watch movies 5 inches from your faceEveryone obsessed with the 60fps "issue" must really hate watching all movies and their 24fps.
Well I stand corrected. Thanks for showing me this.
Or maybe the issue isn't as bad or prevalent as a few posters would have us believe.Or maybe people don't WANT to see them because of religious love for a company
Ipad 2, speed improvement. iPhone 5s no change. iPhone 6 not really a change. However benchmarks do show speed improvement; so no false advertising.Not only that, but when you clicked 'Upgrade' on all devices, you were shown a list of new features for iOS 9, with speed improvements highlighted as a major feature.
I love watching movies at 24 fps and also love games and UI of iPhones to be at 60 fps.Everyone obsessed with the 60fps "issue" must really hate watching all movies and their 24fps.
Plenty of people watch movies close up on tablets and phones.You don't watch movies 5 inches from your face
Well, if we are going to make specific call outs, it seems that what is said and highlighted in what is quoted there specifically seems to refer to apps and multitasking on iPads. There's no reference to older devices, as there is no reference to Control Center, as there is no reference to anything on the iPhone.
Ipad 2, speed improvement. iPhone 5s no change. iPhone 6 not really a change. However benchmarks do show speed improvement; so no false advertising.
You just made my point by agreeing there were increases in web benchmarks. So that does come under the headings "performance improvements" and ergo there is nothing further to explain. I hate picking nits like this, but that is what the conversation is about. an improvement is an improvement.If you want to make those claims post some evidence.. as always.
some increases in web benchmarks which apply to one application do not equal speed improvements overall.
No it does not. It is about improvemed performance and smoother animations in general. There is a reference to older devices, it talks about improvements. An improvoment is by definition a comparison to an older situation (=iOS 8). iOS 8 only runs on older phones.Plenty of people watch movies close up on tablets and phones.
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Well, if we are going to make specific call outs, it seems that what is said and highlighted in what is quoted there specifically seems to refer to apps and multitasking on iPads. There's no reference to older devices, as there is no reference to Control Center, as there is no reference to anything on the iPhone.
If people don't experience it, that's on them. FPS isn't an opinion, it's fact.That isn't what most people experience. Even many of the ones that are noticing the stuttering and complaining about it have pointed out about it being just in some places. If anything this simply goes back to what I've been saying from the beginning, that while some of the smaller occasional things might be there for everyone, something beyond those isn't something that's there for everyone.
An improvement is also referred to how something new works compared to something older, as in a new model compared to an older one, at least that's certainly the case how it gets treated in the advertising and copywriting world, which is what that is.No it does not. It is about improvemed performance and smoother animations in general. There is a reference to older devices, it talks about improvements. An improvoment is by definition a comparison to an older situation (=iOS 8). iOS 8 only runs on older phones.If people don't experience it, that's on them. FPS isn't an opinion, it's fact.
As per the many other threads, apple need to allow the older devices to go back to the shipping versions they were supplied with. Let consumers "CHOOSE" what they want to do, not apple force versions on consumers for market share and PR reasons. And yes, no one forces you to upgrade, but you don't know what its like until you try it. That argument is like saying well you cant complain your hotel was crap or your car had a fault - you "CHOOSE" to buy it..
If that's true, that's incredibly misleading. Then they're basicly saying: iOS 9 is better, but only if you buy a new device. Honestly, that makes zero sense.An improvement is also referred to how something new works compared to something older, as in a new model compared to an older one, at least that's certainly the case how it gets treated in the advertising and copywriting world, which is what that is.
I'm just saying it's not ocassionally.As for experiencing issues, someone not experiencing something doesn't mean they aren't seeing it, it can very well mean they don't have that issue. We already covered that some base issues are there, but it certainly doesn't mean that everything beyond them is there in the same fashion for everyone.
It is a conscious and intended decision to not optimise for year old hardware knowing the consequences
I'm saying that that specific wording that was quoted and highlighted specifically said those things that I mentioned and specifically didn't say anything beyond that.If that's true, that's incredibly misleading. Then they're basicly saying: iOS 9 is better, but only if you buy a new device. Honestly, that makes zero sense.
I'm just saying it's not ocassionally.
The control center animation always stutters.
Scrolling through Twitter always stutters.
Scrolling through Facebook always stutters.
The 3D Touch animation always stutters.
It's impossible to replicate those animations without stutter.