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I got the 4.2 i7 and added 32GB of RAM, so I have 40GB now.

Overall its great but I hate the fan noise, seems like once I get over 20% CPU the fans fun up full bore and I can hear it across the room, I got the RAM and the i7 to run some win+linux VM's and they can easily get the fans to spin up.
 
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I got the 4.2 i7 and added 32GB of RAM, so I have 40GB now.

Overall its great but I hate the fan noise, seems like once I get over 20% CPU the fans fun up full bore and I can hear it across the room, I got the RAM and the i7 to run some win+linux VM's and they can easily get the fans to spin up.
20%?

I agree the i7 7700K fan noise was irritating, but IIRC it would not ramp up much for me at 20% load.
 
No new Imac for me today. :mad: B&H supposedly is moving to a new warehouse so some orders are delayed. I had paid for overnight shipping. however, they have refunded those charges, but I don't get my new machine until Monday. :(
 
I got the 4.2 i7 and added 32GB of RAM, so I have 40GB now.

Overall its great but I hate the fan noise, seems like once I get over 20% CPU the fans fun up full bore and I can hear it across the room, I got the RAM and the i7 to run some win+linux VM's and they can easily get the fans to spin up.

When I YES tested the one I had I got:
1 YES = 15%CPU 27W after 10min Peak~56 to 80degC moving around
2 YES = 26%CPU 38W CPU after 10min Peak~60 - 80degC
3 YES = 38%CPU 58W CPU after 10min Peak~75-91degC 1200rpm
4 YES = 51%CPU 69W CPU …… 95degC ~2K to 2.4K rpm

When I drove a second monitor off of TB3 port (TB3-->2 dongle, OWC TB2 Dock) I had at least 10degC higher temps at all times due to GPU and P/S loading.

I believe most users are in general putting very little constant load on computers. There are brief moments where the user asks the computer to do edits or render an FX that takes 15 seconds or less. None of these kinds of activities will bother to get the fan going on the i7 - maybe for a moment - that's it. There is a whole other class of users that put constant 20% or more load on them (audio at least but likely, video editors, gamers, Multi Virtual Machines, etc...) . Video rendering being the king at near 100%. These users will get the fans on the i7 going for higher loads. Whether the speed/capability/noise thing is necessary or just worth the tradeoff is on an individual case by case basis (IMO of course :)
 
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i7, SSD, maxed out the RAM and hardly hear the fan only when I have all the Pro Apps open and doing a few things at once, but even still with Adobe CC apps (illustrator, Lightroom, and photoshop) all open at once with a project going haven't had much issue with fan noise. Only seems with web content that has non HTML5 video
 
Got the top end 21.5 with 16 gigs of ram 3 weeks ago.
Just today replaced the ass-tastic fusion drive with a 2tb crucial SSD. Now have my own little dream machine.
Love every bit of it
 
Got the top end 21.5 with 16 gigs of ram 3 weeks ago.
Just today replaced the ass-tastic fusion drive with a 2tb crucial SSD. Now have my own little dream machine.
Love every bit of it

You opened up a new iMac to do this?

I'd consider doing that on a machine that is out of AppleCare. Good luck to you if the logic board fails or you have display issues.
 
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You opened up a new iMac to do this?

I'd consider doing that on a machine that is out of AppleCare. Good luck to you if the logic board fails or you have display issues.

Logic board,
display issues.
Neither has been an issue for me in 30 years of owning a mac.
I ran it for a month to make sure there were no issues out of the gate.
Almost exclusively -
display issues will be there from the git-go and not appear 5 months in.

I know its a gamble of sorts. But imo,
a minor one.

But thanks for the paternalistic advice.

Everythings working great and now i'm not bogged down by that ****** fusion drive.
 
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Logic board,
display issues.
Neither has been an issue for me in 30 years of owning a mac.

Lucky you. In 11 years of owning Macs I've had both LCD panels and logic boards replaced. On my Late 2013 iMac the LCD panel developed a smudge that appeared on the lower left side of the panel itself about a year and a half after purchase.

AppleCare saved me a cool $800 that time alone. I never buy a Mac without it.

display issues will be there from the git-go and not appear 5 months in.

See above.

But thanks for the paternalistic advice.

Let's call it brotherly advice. ;)

I'm glad to hear it's working well and wish you the best of luck with it.
 
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Lucky you. In 11 years of owning Macs I've had both LCD panels and logic boards replaced. On my Late 2013 iMac the LCD panel developed a smudge that appeared on the lower left side of the panel itself about a year and a half after purchase.

AppleCare saved me a cool $800 that time alone. I never buy a Mac without it.



See above.



Let's call it brotherly advice. ;)

I'm glad to hear it's working well and wish you the best of luck with it.

Well even if apple care saved me $800 one time, it still wouldnt have been worth it. I've pruchased probably 5 different macs in the past 4 years, so getting appllecare on all tthose would have been about $1500, right?
That would mean I'd would have to have had 2 major repairs outside the standard year warranty to even make apple care a break even proposition.
Since I've had none, I'm $1500 ahead of where I would have been had I bought applecare.
 
Well even if apple care saved me $800 one time, it still wouldnt have been worth it. I've pruchased probably 5 different macs in the past 4 years, so getting appllecare on all tthose would have been about $1500, right?

Apple charges $169 for AppleCare+ now but I got AppleCare for my new 2017 iMac for about $80 from a third party seller on Amazon.

The one year limited warranty comes with the price of the machine but is voided once you open it up.

Anyway, you removed the most failure prone component in that HDD and you seem to be lucky having never had any problems up till now. ;)
 
Apple charges $169 for AppleCare+ now but I got AppleCare for my new 2017 iMac for about $80 from a third party seller on Amazon.

The one year limited warranty comes with the price of the machine but is voided once you open it up.

Anyway, you removed the most failure prone component in that HDD and you seem to be lucky having never had any problems up till now. ;)

I'll add that perspective is needed.

Like I've said, I've used, and been around other people who use macs for 30+ years now. They're incredibly reliable. That's one of the big reasons you and I (and so many others here love apple products) because they're really well built and reliable.

Of course there's plenty of stories about people who bought apple care and it saved their asses. That's great, but I would argue those stories are few and far between among people who have macs (AND TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEM - that's key).

I would argue that for every dozen or so stories of people who tell you applecare saved their asses, there's thousands on the other side who never had to use their applecare.

People will tell you when applcare saved them, because it's a 'story', and others who bought applecare like to share those stories because it helps make them feel better about spending their own $$$ on applecare.

So you may say I'm 'lucky' that I haven't had a mac failure in the past 5 years. I would say that's not 'lucky', but instead anyone who had a mac fail is 'unlucky' ... since it's a failure that requires applecare that's unlikely, not the other way around.

P.S. as a side note, the two majors repairs I've ever needed done were both on 2011 macbook pro's with the video card issues ... and guess what: Apple had a special extended warranty for those computers so even without applecare (It would have been expired anyway) the fixes were free.
 
People will tell you when applcare saved them, because it's a 'story', and others who bought applecare like to share those stories because it helps make them feel better about spending their own $$$ on applecare.

AppleCare is just an insurance policy. I didn't tell you my story to make myself feel better, just for your information. I paid $3.33 per month for the last 24 months of coverage. For me, that's a very small price to pay to triple the warranty.

Apple makes quality products to be sure but any machine can fail and Apple's are particularly expensive to repair outside of coverage.
 
AppleCare is just an insurance policy. I didn't tell you my story to make myself feel better, just for your information. I paid $3.33 per month for the last 24 months of coverage. For me, that's a very small price to pay to triple the warranty.

Apple makes quality products to be sure but any machine can fail and Apple's are particularly expensive to repair outside of coverage.

To each his own.
If you feel more ocmfortable with it, then by all means.

But one thing I can tell you, and I know you'll agree .. a huge percentage of 'problems' people have with their macs are hard drive related.
So if you have something like Diskwarror that can fix a corrrupted drive, or like me - know how to replace a broken drive, then the need for any apple service is even more remote.

A mac tech guy once told me that around 90% of people who brought their computers in thinking they were totallly fried, just needed a pass of diskwarrior and all was good. But of course that 'service' by the tech ran the customer a cool $100 or therabouts.
 
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My next mac will be an Imac after all the hdmi display out problems I've had in the last few years , with 3 different minis and 2 different tv's

There's a serious bug that Apple still haven't fixed.

My Dad has the 27 5k and it is a thing of true awesome beauty ..
 
I received my BTO i5 580 iMac with 512ssd about a week after ordering (I know, I was shocked based on what others have been saying in the order thread). Came from California and says assembled in the USA which surprised me. I guess I just assumed it was going to be from China. I don't think I really needed this much of a machine, but after some advice from SaSaSushi, I think it's better to be safe with the better GPU, incase I do decide to use it for VR or if High Sierra takes advantage of the better GPU, and luckily with my educator discount it was still within budget (it was either that or 1tb ssd).

I added 16gb of Crucial Ballistix Sport LT RAM for a total of 24gb (all 4 slots are now used and I installed before I started the machine in about 2 minutes time! Super easy!) I don't think I'll need more but I figure even if I did and added 32 later, 48gb would certainly be enough.

I am coming from a 2008 21.5" imac that was just getting too slow. Wanted to get one last year but thought I'd wait for a better upgrade to the line and I think this is the one that will last me the next 10 years. So far it has been amazing! Looks great, super fast, no noise AT ALL, have had multiple apps open and still no problems, really glad I got this iMac and extremely thankful for all of the help I recieved from posters, personally, and from reading everyone else's posts!

These forums have been extremely helpful to me making a decision on which machine to buy, which configuration to get (I probably would have got the 3TB fusion if it wasn't for this forum and I'm glad I didn't!), and which 3rd party RAM to buy. Even if it's overkill of a machine, I'm happy with no regrets and that's all I can ask for in a $2K+ purchase.
 
To each his own.
If you feel more ocmfortable with it, then by all means.

But one thing I can tell you, and I know you'll agree .. a huge percentage of 'problems' people have with their macs are hard drive related.
So if you have something like Diskwarror that can fix a corrrupted drive, or like me - know how to replace a broken drive, then the need for any apple service is even more remote.

A mac tech guy once told me that around 90% of people who brought their computers in thinking they were totallly fried, just needed a pass of diskwarrior and all was good. But of course that 'service' by the tech ran the customer a cool $100 or therabouts.

So on many devices I don't purchase Applecare. On iMacs I do. I've always had to take my iMac in for some reason. I've had display failures, logic board failures, hard drive failures. Maybe they have gotten better over time but usually 2.5 years in I'm using Apple care. On my phone, MacBook Pro, and others I don't. But on my iMac I always have to take in once or twice. Maybe this iMac will be different. But always glad I have AppleCare.
 
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I only noticed a noisy fan durning exporting in Premiere Pro/Media Encoder. It's not my first computer, but my first iMac. But it's 100% normal that during processing a lot of data computer gets hot and has to turn the fan on. I have read about noise in i7 but I want this power.
 
I got Apple Care on my iMac for 2 reasons - 1) In the event it does have an issue in the first 3 years its covered 2) I actually plan to only keep it for ~2years and replace with either new iMac or similar (I just like new tech). AppleCare pays for itself on the resale market.
 
I received my BTO i5 580 iMac with 512ssd about a week after ordering (I know, I was shocked based on what others have been saying in the order thread). Came from California and says assembled in the USA which surprised me. I guess I just assumed it was going to be from China.

Glad to hear you're happy with it!
I ordered the same config on Thursday with Express Shipping. It was assembled in Ireland and arrived Saturday morning (!!!) here in Northern Germany at the UPS center a few kilometers away. Unfortunately UPS doesn't ship on Saturdays so I'll have to wait until tomorrow morning.
 
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Recently got a 27" iMac. Got a good deal that allowed me to get a Magic Trackpad 2 basically for free. Figured I would try it out. I love it! With the big screen is it so much easier to use than the Magic Mouse and once I got used to the various uses, it has been great. If you are considering a 27" iMac, please do yourself a favor and get the trackpad!
 
Recently got a 27" iMac. Got a good deal that allowed me to get a Magic Trackpad 2 basically for free. Figured I would try it out. I love it! With the big screen is it so much easier to use than the Magic Mouse and once I got used to the various uses, it has been great. If you are considering a 27" iMac, please do yourself a favor and get the trackpad!
The trackpad 2 makes using the iMac a real joy much like the 2016 MBP. In my opinion, the Magic Mouse pales in comparison.
 
The trackpad 2 makes using the iMac a real joy much like the 2016 MBP. In my opinion, the Magic Mouse pales in comparison.

I was thinking about trying a Magic Trackpad 2 but I have to say that the Magic Mouse 2 in combination with Better Touch Tool is remarkably powerful.

If the only gesture options for the Magic Mouse were those offered by Apple I would agree with all the haters.
 
I was thinking about trying a Magic Trackpad 2 but I have to say that the Magic Mouse 2 in combination with Better Touch Tool is remarkably powerful.

If the only gesture options for the Magic Mouse were those offered by Apple I would agree with all the haters.

I use the Magic Mouse 2 right of the keyboard, and my old Magic Trackpad on the left. I like the combination. I mainly use the mouse, but can use the Trackpad for gestures.

Humbly Ylan
 
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I use the Magic Mouse 2 right of the keyboard, and my old Magic Trackpad on the left. I like the combination. I mainly use the mouse, but can use the Trackpad for gestures.

Thank you, it's an excellent point. After all, why does it have to be a choice between the input devices when we can use both at the same time. :)
 
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