Please share the battery capacity of your Macbook Pro 2021 M1 Pro/Max 14/16!

[TheRdungeon]

I have a 16" M1 Pro non-max, bought it in February this year, only done 150 cycles and the Apple battery health is 90%, coconut 87.2%.
I have Apple Care, does anyone know if they will replace it given that although it's currently 90% it surely can't make 1000 cycles without being under 80%? I use it the same as I did my old Macbooks/iBooks throughout the years, feel like this thing has to be faulty. Battery life definitely noticeably worse than when I got it

 

[BigMcGuire]

Apple will only consider a replacement if it is under 80% under the 3 years of AppleCare+ ownership I believe.

Also, the battery will lose health slower and slower as it ages. So it may take 2-4x the time to go from 90 to 80% as it did 100 to 90%. But definitely keep an eye on it.

 

[TheRdungeon]

Apple will only consider a replacement if it is under 80% under the 3 years of AppleCare+ ownership I believe.

Also, the battery will lose health slower and slower as it ages. So it may take 2-4x the time to go from 90 to 80% as it did 100 to 90%. But definitely keep an eye on it.

Bummer, appreciate the reply. Might wander down the Apple store in the new year when it's less busy and see if they're open to it at least

 

[T Coma]

I got 16/M1 and Coconut is correct.

Seems odd - I don't understand the discrepancies. I have no "battery care" regimen and my MBP is most often on the desk, on the charger. Currently connected to a powered hub with numerous drives and an ethernet adapter.

 

[ISKOTB]

Seems odd - I don't understand the discrepancies. I have no "battery care" regimen and my MBP is most often on the desk, on the charger. Currently connected to a powered hub with numerous drives and an ethernet adapter.

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You are seeing are determined by the "Impedance Track Battery Gas Gauge Chip"which is a specialized microprocessor monitoring the cells of the battery unit. This processor will modify its estimated capacity values each time it is "seeing" a full, uninterrupted discharge/charge cycle, causing a process which is called "calibration".

After the recent OS update, I was at 97.1% and now I am back to 89.1% lol

 

[Christopher Kim]

Bummer, appreciate the reply. Might wander down the Apple store in the new year when it's less busy and see if they're open to it at least

Yep, absolutely no harm in trying. But I echo @BigMcGuire that they're pretty strict on the 80% rule (not just for Macs, but for iPads, iPhones, Watches, all devices). Even in situations where you're willing to pay the $199 MBP battery replacement fee (eg. not even an Applecare+ / warranty claim).

Big part of the reason is that they can't only replace the battery with Macs, because of how they're glued, they replace the whole topcase (which includes new keyboard and speakers in addition to battery).

 

[Hammie]

I have three MacBook Pro's. Based on Battery Health 3, these are the statuses of them.

2010 17" MBP 2.66GHz i7 (MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6)
-- 631 cycles, 38% health, Status = Service Battery

2013 13" MBP 2.4GHz i5 (MacOS Big Sur 11.7.2)
-- 295 cycles, 86% health, Status = Good

2021 14" MBP M1 Pro (MacOS Ventura 13.1)
-- 79 cycles, 85% health, Status = Good

 

[TheRdungeon]

Yep, absolutely no harm in trying. But I echo @BigMcGuire that they're pretty strict on the 80% rule (not just for Macs, but for iPads, iPhones, Watches, all devices). Even in situations where you're willing to pay the $199 MBP battery replacement fee (eg. not even an Applecare+ / warranty claim).

Big part of the reason is that they can't only replace the battery with Macs, because of how they're glued, they replace the whole topcase (which includes new keyboard and speakers in addition to battery).

Actually these new ones have pull tabs to release the battery packs, so hopefully should be a bit easier on this generation! The last ones certainly required a lot for sure

 

[Basic75]

MacBook Pro (16", Late 2021) mostly used plugged in.

Health Information:
Cycle Count: 32
Condition: Normal
Maximum Capacity: 100%

Haven't let it run dry recently so the 100% might not be perfectly calibrated.

 

[Christopher Kim]

Actually these new ones have pull tabs to release the battery packs, so hopefully should be a bit easier on this generation! The last ones certainly required a lot for sure

Ah good correction - now that you mention it, I think I saw an article about this from the iFixit tear-down late last year after these 2021 MBPs first came out. Will see if that means Apple is more lenient on battery replacements if they can just replace the battery vs needing to replace the whole topcase. Especially given it does seem that the 2021 MBP batteries have similar "hardiness" as the 2016 - 2020 MBP generation, where battery health could decrease rather quickly, especially for use-cases when they're plugged in relatively longer.

 

[anshuvorty]

It's crazy. I have a 14-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Pro (base model), and I got it on day 1.

I have been using it in clamshell almost 98% of the time and my battery capacity has been reduced to 89%.

It's pretty disappointing...

 

[spiderpumpkin]

I've had my 16" MacBook Pro with M1 Pro/16GB/1TB for 1 year. It's at 132 battery cycles and about 94% capacity.

 

[Hammie]

Not sure why these 2021 MBPs are getting a hit on the battery like this. Our other three laptops are as follows:

2020 13" MBA #1
- 268 cycles
- 94% battery health
- Good/Normal

2020 13" MBA #2
- 149 cycles
- 96% battery
- Good/Normal

2016 12" MacBook
- 424 cycles
- 57%
- Good/Normal

 

[TheRdungeon]

I kinda wish there was an option to not blast it with the full 140w when charging, I absolutely love having the ability ti charge that fast and it takes a lot of the pain out of the terrrible battery health but a lot of the time I would be fine setting it to 60w or something when I'm just back at my desk or charging it overnight

 

[TheRdungeon]

Using the extremely useful Coconut battery comparison tool I can see I'm well at the bottom of the pile compared to other m1 16"

 

[TheRdungeon]

Not sure why these 2021 MBPs are getting a hit on the battery like this. Our other three laptops are as follows:

2020 13" MBA #1
- 268 cycles
- 94% battery health
- Good/Normal

2020 13" MBA #2
- 149 cycles
- 96% battery
- Good/Normal

2016 12" MacBook
- 424 cycles
- 57%
- Good/Normal

Yep those MBA are much more in line with what I'd expect

 

[tim1000]

What is the solution buy a new MacBook? Battery replacement is just not an option I will certainly upgrade before 80%!!

 

[BigMcGuire]

I kinda wish there was an option to not blast it with the full 140w when charging, I absolutely love having the ability ti charge that fast and it takes a lot of the pain out of the terrrible battery health but a lot of the time I would be fine setting it to 60w or something when I'm just back at my desk or charging it overnight

Agreed. I would love the option to cap charging at 80% (or X%) or, like you said, an option to charge much slower because I’m not going out and can help the battery‘s longevity.

EVs offer this option. I really hope laptop makers start doing this especially with the EU threatening manufacturers to allow replaceable batteries. People are getting sick of a $xxxx device suffering significant battery loss after a few years.

Till then, I use a 61w charger with my 16’ MBP. I’ve even used 20w chargers with it. Since I use AlDente a lot, I cap my charging at 60, 70, sometimes 80% so I really don’t care what it is plugged into most of the time.

 

[Arctic Moose]

Battery replacement is just not an option

Why not?

 

[tim1000]

Why not?

Can’t get it done until drops below 80% I don’t keep them that long

 

[Arctic Moose]

Can’t get it done until drops below 80% I don’t keep them that long

And your battery doesn't last long enough for you now?

 

[tim1000]

And your battery doesn't last long enough for you now?

It did until I read this thread

 

[okkibs]

Health Information:
Cycle Count: 44
Condition: Normal
Maximum Capacity: 100 %

Mine's sitting at 100% since I got it a couple months ago.

And your battery doesn't last long enough for you now?

I am getting 8 hours of battery out of mine when I am doing actual work and that's with 100% capacity, at somewhere below 90% that would already be a full hour less or two at around 81%. Which wouldn't be enough to cover my work day when I am on the go (yes I know powerbanks exist).

 

[TheRdungeon]

Agreed. I would love the option to cap charging at 80% (or X%) or, like you said, an option to charge much slower because I’m not going out and can help the battery‘s longevity.

EVs offer this option. I really hope laptop makers start doing this especially with the EU threatening manufacturers to allow replaceable batteries. People are getting sick of a $xxxx device suffering significant battery loss after a few years.

Till then, I use a 61w charger with my 16’ MBP. I’ve even used 20w chargers with it. Since I use AlDente a lot, I cap my charging at 60, 70, sometimes 80% so I really don’t care what it is plugged into most of the time.

Great call with the 60w charger, only then I feel like I'd want to buy another magsafe cable too. Might think about it though, especially for the replacement if I end up blitzing through the battery health on this

 

[tim1000]

my battery took a 4% health hit since September