dogbone said:
Just checking online I was surprised to see that a new D70s body is only USD$619 USD for an extra $200 you'd get a larger lcd screen and a warrantee. Plus a camera that you will be happy with for years and a massive array of old cheap lenses. I can't see you regretting the extra 200.
Not sure where you are checking, but B&H - a company that even my shop respects when customers want to shop on price only - is just $50 less on the D50 and D70s bodies (my shop is even at $550 for the D50 body; and only $50 more for the D70s body).
I would hope that most local "mom & pop" shops would be at the high end (according to some here, the prices we have at my shop). To be fair to all the other "speciality" shops out there, I hope they try to strive to the level that we try to at my job.
First is in providing after sales support. We are all about the customer getting the most from their purchase. This sometimes means giving brief lessons on photography.
Second, after sales support may mean helping a customer get their rebates, or even further acting on their behalf in working with the manufacturer to get what the customer may feel is right. Do we win all the time with the manufacturers? No, (but I have seen things that have even surprised me - a retail vet!
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Also there is nothing wrong in going in to a local shop and asking them directly (yet politely); why should I buy from you as opposed to going on the net for the buy.
I would just ask that you be respectful. Don't go in to a shop seeing that the likes of B&H and my shop have pricing at $650~699 for the D70s body - and touchy/feely the D70s only to want to get it for $619. That IMO is just wrong. Ask if there are any value adds.
In my shop we offer customers 60 free 4x6 prints with any digital camera purchase (a $23 value). Also Canon, Nikon, and Olympus purchasers are offered a free class taught by the respective company reps (a $50 value based on non-customer desire to attend the classes).
I can't begin to count the number of vacations/graduations/birthday parties/and the such that I have seen from customers that come back to share and learn. And I and my co-workers have enjoyed it.
I used to sell computers to the US government. It was about relationships back then. In the retail sector; it is even more so. If there is a rebate that you never get, will some Amazon reseller really care? At my shop we do.
If a camera goes in for a 2nd or 3rd repair in the first year, does an Amazon type reseller care about how you feel about the problem? At my shop we do. We can't guarantee that we will meet your expectations; but will try to the best of our abilities with the manufacturer to try and make you happy.
Depending on the relationship that one builds with a particular sales rep, there may be "perks" when problems do come up. I personally have loaned a flash unit to a customer that had a unit in need of repair. He had bought everything from me and my store as far as I know it. He was in a tough spot, and we had no rentals available at the time.
And as much as Clix and I seem to be a "mutual admiration society"; if she ever truly needed access to a 18-200VR - because hers failed - I would gladly give her mine if not in use.
To be honest you have to be a VERY SPECIAL customer of mine to get this personal treatment of my own gear. I can't say that my fellow co-workers would go that far. But it shows what relationships in buying can bring.
I am sorry for the rant. But the "lowest" price mentality bothers me when you look at the likes of B&H and the shop I work for.