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Perrumpo

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Just a thought, what about sushi or ahi fish? I love ahi tuna, but i never thought about it touching air.

It's really not about the meat being exposed to the air at all. Raw meats contain natural bacteria that can make you sick. THAT is why you cook it.
 

Vogue Harper

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It's really not about the meat being exposed to the air at all. Raw meats contain natural bacteria that can make you sick. THAT is why you cook it.

That is true for meat like chicken and pork which absolutely have to be cooked through. Eating that meat raw is almost certainly going to lead to food poisoning.

Beef is probably about the only meat which is very safe to eat rare though. The point about bugs and viruses I made earlier is correct, it can't get inside the meat only rest outside on the area which is cooked so the bacteria is killed by the heat. The things which you might have to worry about in beef are things like tapeworm etc which can reside inside the meat but if you take a good cut of beef eg a fillet steak from cows which have been well bred and looked after then that risk is negligible too.

I have been eating my scarily rare steaks regularly for years now and I have never fallen ill from one.
 

GoCubsGo

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don't ever come to the US if you want your steak like that lol. most places don't let you go below medium, some say they don't cook below medium-well
Nah you can get medium rare but they don't do rare. Angus Barn for example says medium rare is more than 60% pink but "cooked" through.

Letting meat stand at room temp for 15 min and then not cooking it for more than a few minutes on either side sounds scary, especially coming from the land of mad cow.

I used to only do well, now it is medium well. A good steak should taste better medium-rare to medium-well, a bad steak should be cooked through and fed to the dog.
 

Vogue Harper

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Letting meat stand at room temp for 15 min and then not cooking it for more than a few minutes on either side sounds scary, especially coming from the land of mad cow.

BSE can't be killed by cooking the beef anyway - so we all take our chances whether the steak is well done or rare.
 

bartelby

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Nah you can get medium rare but they don't do rare. Angus Barn for example says medium rare is more than 60% pink but "cooked" through.

Letting meat stand at room temp for 15 min and then not cooking it for more than a few minutes on either side sounds scary, especially coming from the land of mad cow.

I'll eat it blue if the place will serve it. Not many will though these days... :(
 

GoCubsGo

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BSE can't be killed by cooking the beef anyway - so we all take our chances whether the steak is well done or rare.

I was just saying it was scary for me. You must know I am also the girl who probably overcooks chicken because I am paranoid.
 

blackscooby

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Winter's around the corner... OK not quite, but as the tyres are currently discounted I thought I'd bag mysel' a pair.

Nokian WR G2's for the AMG. One thing it's not good at.. or is that me.. is snow and ice !

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Perrumpo

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That is true for meat like chicken and pork which absolutely have to be cooked through. Eating that meat raw is almost certainly going to lead to food poisoning.

Beef is probably about the only meat which is very safe to eat rare though. The point about bugs and viruses I made earlier is correct, it can't get inside the meat only rest outside on the area which is cooked so the bacteria is killed by the heat. The things which you might have to worry about in beef are things like tapeworm etc which can reside inside the meat but if you take a good cut of beef eg a fillet steak from cows which have been well bred and looked after then that risk is negligible too.

I have been eating my scarily rare steaks regularly for years now and I have never fallen ill from one.

Well, things like chicken naturally have dangerous bacteria like salmonella. Although beef does not have that particular bacteria naturally, it still has some that CAN make you sick. With beef and fish, it mostly depends on the quality/freshness from where you buy it. Eating a raw steak from a grocery store is miles riskier than from a specialty/kosher butcher.

So again, exposure to air is not what determines the risk, initially. Supermarket ground beef isn't even safe to feed your cat (and cats can handle raw chicken, even) because of the low quality and handling, not necessarily because of air exposure. Same goes for steak and fish. The fish found in sushi is expensive for a reason.

In the end, you just have to be smart about where it all comes from.
 

davidwarren

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you guys must be going to the wrong steak houses, this is from Morton's website:
 

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