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Transporteur

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Standard DVI can do 1920x1200 with no problem. You only need Dual Link if you want 2560x1600 and up.

Also, Andy, the regular mini-dvi to dvi adapter will work up to 1920x1200. The Apple rep is just trying to get you to buy the stupid dual link one, which is overpriced from Apple. I asked them the same thing when I bought my first mac and was considering a macbook, and they flat out lied to me saying it will only support 1280x800 on the mini-dvi. Thats a crock, check the forums here, on some of the older "Post Your Mac" threads, there are macbooks driving 24" screens.. I have a 1440x900 running on Mini-DP to DVI (standard, not dual link, and from monoprice) and it has no problems.

EDIT: Also, if you get an adapter, get it from Monoprice. It's way cheaper and imo, better bang for the buck. I havent had any problems with my stuff from them. Quick shipping and cheap.

1. There is no "and up" after 2560x1600. That's the maximum resolution of screens today and the maximum of the DualLink DVI adapter either.

2. You do realize that AndyCodez wants to connect a 30" Cinema, don't you?
Monoprice does not offer a DualLink DVI adapter which is required to run the 30" ACD. Every other adapter, either from Monoprice or Apple, will only display 1280x800 on the Cinema as it requires a DualLink DVI input. If it gets only SingleLink the maximum resolution is 1280x800 and no 1920x1200.

That said, there is NO way around the DualLink DVI adapter from either Dell or Apple (both $100 plus a miniDP-DP adapter in case of the Dell) if you want to display a higher resolution than 1280x800 on the 30" ACD.

BTW: The Cinema is supposed to display 2560x1600, nothing less.
1920x1200 looks like crap because it's not the native resolution. If you want such a low resolution on a large display, get yourself a 28" with 1920 or a 32" FullHD TV.
Running the 30" with 1920x1200 is a complete waste of money!
 

AndyCodez

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1. There is no "and up" after 2560x1600. That's the maximum resolution of screens today and the maximum of the DualLink DVI adapter either.

2. You do realize that AndyCodez wants to connect a 30" Cinema, don't you?
Monoprice does not offer a DualLink DVI adapter which is required to run the 30" ACD. Every other adapter, either from Monoprice or Apple, will only display 1280x800 on the Cinema as it requires a DualLink DVI input. If it gets only SingleLink the maximum resolution is 1280x800 and no 1920x1200.

That said, there is NO way around the DualLink DVI adapter from either Dell or Apple (both $100 plus a miniDP-DP adapter in case of the Dell) if you want to display a higher resolution than 1280x800 on the 30" ACD.

BTW: The Cinema is supposed to display 2560x1600, nothing less.
1920x1200 looks like crap because it's not the native resolution. If you want such a low resolution on a large display, get yourself a 28" with 1920 or a 32" FullHD TV.
Running the 30" with 1920x1200 is a complete waste of money!

Thanks mate ;) Yeah I will be upgrading to a mac mini in a couple of months so the adapter I ordered will work for that as well. But I will be able to get the full resolution with the new mac mini's. Hopefully there will be a refresh on the mac mini's before I order one :)

But as for my macbook I'm sure 1920 x 1200 is wayyyyy better than this 1280 x 800 crap I am using right now. It's just bad lol. What I don't understand is why i got better resolution on my 22" Westinghouse, I mean wouldn't you think that I would be able to get the same resolution on this 30" as I would on the 22"? I don't understand displays that much apparently.

Thanks again :)
 

SnowLeopard2008

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Before you spout off maybe you should prove this little "fact" you seem to hang your hat on.

I agree the glare looks rough.

Before you claim I'm wrong, maybe do a little digging in the field of LCD panels.

Matte is a a finish applied to the surface of an LCD panel that reduces the glare. It affects how light travels both ways (from display and to display from external source).

Apple's "glossy" or "glassy" is simply a LCD panel with a outer layer of glass. Light travels largely unaffected through glass. This is directly related to color accuracy.

I'm not hanging onto anything except the truth and facts.

My setup just got the 30" today, found out cant get 1920 x 1200 unless i have the 99$ adapter..... Drrr, pisses me off but sweet monitor. So everything is huge :(

Just to clarify (although many posters have already did):

Your MacBook supports 1920x1200 without the dual link adapter. I have a 2007 MacBook, which is essentially the same as you have. It drove my Samsung 24" 1920x1200 no problem with the mini-DVI to DVI adapter.

I do not recommend Monoprice. My Dad ordered 10 adapters for his work's new MacBook Pros given to employees (including him). 4 of them had stuttering image problems and poor build quality. He got replacements from Monoprice but 1 of the 4 replacements broke due to poor build quality. His co-workers were limited to 15" screens for 3 weeks, limiting productivity and efficiency. They work on IC design, and an external monitor is a must.

I bought one from Apple the day I got my MacBook Pro. I'd gladly pay an extra $15 for the DVI adapter for good build quality and no image stutter problems. The first one I got was defective, the Apple Store employee replaced it, but he took the extra step of testing the replacement adapter in front of my Dad (the guy dragged a 30" ACD from the backroom) to be absolutely sure. You get what you pay for.
 

GoCubsGo

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Before you claim I'm wrong, maybe do a little digging in the field of LCD panels.

Matte is a a finish applied to the surface of an LCD panel that reduces the glare. It affects how light travels both ways (from display and to display from external source).

Apple's "glossy" or "glassy" is simply a LCD panel with a outer layer of glass. Light travels largely unaffected through glass. This is directly related to color accuracy.

I'm not hanging onto anything except the truth and facts.
Multiquote and don't quote images.

I never claimed you were wrong, I asked that before you go saying something as fact perhaps you can enlighten us a little with actual documentation that resides outside this particular thread even. ;)
 

AndyCodez

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Just to clarify (although many posters have already did):

Your MacBook supports 1920x1200 without the dual link adapter. I have a 2007 MacBook, which is essentially the same as you have. It drove my Samsung 24" 1920x1200 no problem with the mini-DVI to DVI adapter.

I do not recommend Monoprice. My Dad ordered 10 adapters for his work's new MacBook Pros given to employees (including him). 4 of them had stuttering image problems and poor build quality. He got replacements from Monoprice but 1 of the 4 replacements broke due to poor build quality. His co-workers were limited to 15" screens for 3 weeks, limiting productivity and efficiency. They work on IC design, and an external monitor is a must.

I bought one from Apple the day I got my MacBook Pro. I'd gladly pay an extra $15 for the DVI adapter for good build quality and no image stutter problems. The first one I got was defective, the Apple Store employee replaced it, but he took the extra step of testing the replacement adapter in front of my Dad (the guy dragged a 30" ACD from the backroom) to be absolutely sure. You get what you pay for.

I have the regular mini dvi to dvi adapter from apple and the 1920 x 1200 does not show up in the display drop down, can you explain to me how to make this happen?
 

cnguyen

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BillyBobBongo

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Been working on my house for quite some time now. One of the last things on the list was the office. It's almost done...gotta hang some art on the walls and find a nice way to tidy my cables away. Probably worth mentioning that I built the desk myself. I wasn't so keen on what was out there so it's actually a kitchen counter top with legs on it now. It's about 1 metre of the ground and I've got some cheap bar-stools from IKEA which are working out really well.

The iMac is mine and the MacBook belongs to the GLW.
 

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Transporteur

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But as for my macbook I'm sure 1920 x 1200 is wayyyyy better than this 1280 x 800 crap I am using right now. It's just bad lol. What I don't understand is why i got better resolution on my 22" Westinghouse, I mean wouldn't you think that I would be able to get the same resolution on this 30" as I would on the 22"? I don't understand displays that much apparently.
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As I said before, unless you use the DualLink DVI adapter, the 30" Cinema will NOT display anything higher than 1280x800 cause it simply does not support it.
That's due to the fact how DualLink works, it doubles a single Link signal (1280x800) both horizontal and vertical, which results in the resolution of 2560x1600.
If you want to go higher than 1280x800, buy the DualLink DVI adapter.
 

AndyCodez

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Aug 6, 2009
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As I said before, unless you use the DualLink DVI adapter, the 30" Cinema will NOT display anything higher than 1280x800 cause it simply does not support it.
That's due to the fact how DualLink works, it doubles a single Link signal (1280x800) both horizontal and vertical, which results in the resolution of 2560x1600.
If you want to go higher than 1280x800, buy the DualLink DVI adapter.

Thank you for clarifying Trans. This is as I thought, I wish the apple people I spoke to when I ordered the monitor had told me it requires the dual link adapter so I could have ordered it with the monitor. I ordered the adapter on weds, hopefully it will show up on my doorstep before I get home from work today. I need to get some work done this weekend, and this 1280 x 800 stuff really is not efficient lol.
 

DewGuy1999

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Thank you for clarifying Trans. This is as I thought, I wish the apple people I spoke to when I ordered the monitor had told me it requires the dual link adapter so I could have ordered it with the monitor. I ordered the adapter on weds, hopefully it will show up on my doorstep before I get home from work today. I need to get some work done this weekend, and this 1280 x 800 stuff really is not efficient lol.

It does say this on this page:

Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)

System Requirements

  • Mac with Dual-Link DVI port
  • Mac with Mini DisplayPort using Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (sold separately)
  • Windows PC and graphics card that supports DVI ports with dual-link digital bandwidth and VESA DDC standard for plug-and-play setup
 

AndyCodez

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It does say this on this page:

Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)

System Requirements

  • Mac with Dual-Link DVI port
  • Mac with Mini DisplayPort using Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (sold separately)
  • Windows PC and graphics card that supports DVI ports with dual-link digital bandwidth and VESA DDC standard for plug-and-play setup

Lol Fail on my part, I don't really know the difference between the two. I ride the display shortbus.
 
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