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J.Appleseed

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Decided to post a few more :)

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Wow. Just... wow. Extremely nice setup!

Mine as of today; rearranged my desk once again and put the XBOX underneath the display.

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JoeG4

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Decided to post a few more :)
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Narrow depth of field pictures are extremely popular on MacRumors eh? I'm curious what you use to take them (because I kinda want one so I can fit in better XD)

I think it's most amusing how some people get by doing everything (games, art, reddit, music editing, whatever) from say, a 2 year old 13" macbook pro ...

and then there's people with wacom tablets for editing, nice studio monitors for music, artisan brand headphones for listening to music in private, etc. Minimalism vs "dressing for the occasion". Kinda neat. I feel like I have a mish mash stuck in the middle somewhere xD

I know I've said it before, but I really love the natural lighting some of these setups have. it's truly beautiful!
 
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J.Appleseed

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Narrow depth of field pictures are extremely popular on MacRumors eh? I'm curious what you use to take them (because I kinda want one so I can fit in better XD)

I think it's most amusing how some people get by doing everything (games, art, reddit, music editing, whatever) from say, a 2 year old 13" macbook pro ...

and then there's people with wacom tablets for editing, nice studio monitors for music, artisan brand headphones for listening to music in private, etc. Minimalism vs "dressing for the occasion".

All depends on what those people use their computers for.

A two year old MacBook Pro (i.e. a 2011 one, with an i5 chip at worst) can do web browsing, music playback, Photoshop, video editing and even some games just fine. Hell, up until a year and a half ago I used a 2008 iMac for that.
Especially if you throw an SSD and 16GB RAM in said MacBook Pro, I bet it'll easily outperform a stock version of the current MacBook Pro (when comparable, i.e. 13-inch vs 13-inch and 15-inch vs 15-inch).
Even a 2010 13-inch MacBook Pro can do those tasks just fine (although the graphics chip might be stuttering a bit as I recently experienced on a 2010 13-inch MacBook Air).

My point: don't be degrading like that. If maintained properly, older Macs perform just fine (in some cases even better than newer Macs which aren't maintained properly - and believe me, that happens a lot).
It's also certainly not "amusing" in my opinion. Everyone here just uses their computers like you do, needs them like you do and enjoys them like you probably do.

Now, before I get accused of being all defensive: I really don't take the quoted post personally (I consider myself a fairly lucky adolescent, owning the gadgets I have), but I could understand that some people can (and I really don't blame them for that, seeing how the post is worded).

Please keep in mind that this post is only meant as a friendly reminder to the poster to pay attention to how his posts are worded, as they might insult people when it most likely isn't the intention.
 

jdechko

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All depends on what those people use their computers for.

A two year old MacBook Pro (i.e. a 2011 one, with an i5 chip at worst) can do web browsing, music playback, Photoshop, video editing and even some games just fine. Hell, up until a year and a half ago I used a 2008 iMac for that.
Especially if you throw an SSD and 16GB RAM in said MacBook Pro, I bet it'll easily outperform a stock version of the current MacBook Pro (when comparable, i.e. 13-inch vs 13-inch and 15-inch vs 15-inch).
Even a 2010 13-inch MacBook Pro can do those tasks just fine (although the graphics chip might be stuttering a bit as I recently experienced on a 2010 13-inch MacBook Air).

Agreed. Most computer components don't just die and the ones that are likely *to* die are fairly easy to replace (like a hard drive).

The fact is, many people don't need the latest and greatest software and can get by with a years-old version (like CS2or 3), which runs comfortably on older hardware. And I'd say that goes double for professionals. Why add the additional expense of upgrading hardware and software (taking the time out of billable hours) just to get new and shiny? Not saying that there aren't reasons to upgrade (efficiency, tax write-offs), but that practical reasons often drive purchases.

Hardware purchases can often be tied to, or driven by, software purchases. As the old saying goes, "What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away." That is, new software demands newer, faster hardware, but the old stuff doesn't stop working on old hardware.
 

J.Appleseed

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Agreed. Most computer components don't just die and the ones that are likely *to* die are fairly easy to replace (like a hard drive).

The fact is, many people don't need the latest and greatest software and can get by with a years-old version (like CS2or 3), which runs comfortably on older hardware. And I'd say that goes double for professionals. Why add the additional expense of upgrading hardware and software (taking the time out of billable hours) just to get new and shiny? Not saying that there aren't reasons to upgrade (efficiency, tax write-offs), but that practical reasons often drive purchases.

Hardware purchases can often be tied to, or driven by, software purchases. As the old saying goes, "What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away." That is, new software demands newer, faster hardware, but the old stuff doesn't stop working on old hardware.

Precisely. I can even use my PowerBook G4*, running Leopard, for university since it still runs the application I use for mind mapping. I'd say it does so fairly quick as well (I'd say the experience is a bit below that of a 2010 MacBook Air* running Mountain Lion, which in turn is like half the experience of my 2011 MacBook Pro* running the same OS.

This is a nearly 10 year old computer we're talking about here!

*PowerBook G4 (1.5 GHz PowerPC G4 / 768MB RAM / original 40GB harddrive)
*MacBook Air (1.86 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo / 2GB RAM / original 256GB SSD)
*MacBook Pro (2.4 GHz Intel Core i5 / 8GB RAM / Crucial M4 256GB SSD)

I'll end this discussion now. Back to posting those lovely setups, people, even if they include older Macs! ;)
 
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JoeG4

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My point: don't be degrading like that. If maintained properly, older Macs perform just fine (in some cases even better than newer Macs which aren't maintained properly - and believe me, that happens a lot).
It's also certainly not "amusing" in my opinion. Everyone here just uses their computers like you do, needs them like you do and enjoys them like you probably do.

lol I'm sorry Appleseed, it appears I totally failed to make my point. I was kinda taking a dig at the guys that have everything lol. It's kinda the equivalent of dressing like a marathon runner when going for a jog and then having one of those outfits with the driving cap and funny looking shoes for golfing, etc.

You even see the "I guess I'll try taking up gaming. I bought Half Life on Steam, and a $100 mechanical keyboard because that's what gamers are supposed to do right?" kinda stuff here xD

Truth be told I'm being an ******* even making this commentary at all but I can't help myself. Yeah it really is amusing to see the polarizing difference between extreme setups and simple ones, I wasn't trying to make fun of anyone for being "too poor to afford a dedicated gaming/music/art setup".

hell nah. my last desktop was a G5 I bought broken for $50 that I made do with for 2 years.
 

Commonmind

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lol I'm sorry Appleseed, it appears I totally failed to make my point. I was kinda taking a dig at the guys that have everything lol. It's kinda the equivalent of dressing like a marathon runner when going for a jog and then having one of those outfits with the driving cap and funny looking shoes for golfing, etc.

You even see the "I guess I'll try taking up gaming. I bought Half Life on Steam, and a $100 mechanical keyboard because that's what gamers are supposed to do right?" kinda stuff here xD

Truth be told I'm being an ******* even making this commentary at all but I can't help myself. Yeah it really is amusing to see the polarizing difference between extreme setups and simple ones, I wasn't trying to make fun of anyone for being "too poor to afford a dedicated gaming/music/art setup".

hell nah. my last desktop was a G5 I bought broken for $50 that I made do with for 2 years.

I understand where you're coming from, and I won't jab back too hard, because you seem like a good spirited guy, but there's a few unfair assumptions you're jumping to based purely on the images you're seeing, without any further information. You're also forgetting that, some of the gear you're looking at, especially in my own case, is being used to facilitate a passion, a hobby or pastime that I enjoy.

You're assuming most of us are going out for a jog, but some of our daily workflows are probably closer to the marathon you used in your analogy. My own day is split between front-end developer/designer and content editor. That $100 keyboard helps to make sure I do those jobs quickly, and that my hands (now that I'm well into my 30's) can keep up with the task. And could I work on a less capable machine than a brand new iMac and rMBP? Yes, absolutely. However, with five active kids, trying to run two companies from one office, and wearing numerous creative hats at once throughout my day, I want hardware that is going to keep up with my daily grind -- while I swap back and forth between Sublime Text 2, Photoshop, Illustrator, After Effects, Logic Pro/Audition, Skype, the two dozen pinned tabs I have open in Chrome, the six iTerm tabs I'm running. I want all of that to work as fast as possible; I want it done efficiently. My days are 12-14 hours -- any extra time I can glean from my workday and give back to myself -- to spend time with my family, or enjoy one of those pastimes I alluded to earlier -- makes me a happy camper.

And when it comes to those hobbies, I have been successful enough in my career to buy the gear I WANT to use. But this wasn't always the case. I remember drooling over the guitars I wanted to buy 20 years ago, recording my band at the time on a ****** 4-track, playing through a crappy Fender Super Chorus with a blown speaker and a guitar whose name I couldn't even tell you because the manufacturer didn't bother to spend the money to print it on the headstock. I remember spending countless hours and gobs of money buying 11x14 bristol board, ink, quills and brushes; making an epic mess of my bedroom while trying to produce my first "comic" in high school. I remember back when P4 1.6a's were all the rage and I wanted to buy a water cooler, but the only thing I could afford was an extra case fan and a cheap man's voltage mod that finally let me push that sucker to 1.8ghz.

So now, I do hang a few shiny guitars on the wall -- but I also take them down and play them every day. When I monitor my recordings, I monitor through a good set of speakers and flat response headphones -- because why wouldn't I if I could afford to? Now, when I decide it's time to sit down and draw, instead of pulling out a metric ton of messy supplies that aren't sustainable or efficient to use in any way, I pull down the Cintiq and get to work. And the PC (admittedly the most frivolous of the gear) was equipped with the hardware I wanted to put into it, not what I could afford on a budget. I worked hard, and saved hard, for the very purposes of buying that PC.

Point being, if you liked to drive fast and had the money to spare, why wouldn't you buy the GTR, or the M6? And if your job asked you to run all day, why not buy the running shoes that have the right support, rather than the Chuck's that you can grab for 30 bucks at Target?
 

JoeG4

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I understand where you're coming from, and I won't jab back too hard, because you seem like a good spirited guy, but there's a few unfair assumptions you're jumping to based purely on the images you're seeing, without any further information. You're also forgetting that, some of the gear you're looking at, especially in my own case, is being used to facilitate a passion, a hobby or pastime that I enjoy.

Guilty. And I damn well deserved that jab for making that comment! It's probably one of the stranger things I've posted on MacRumors where it's like.. dang why'd I do that? You guys don't need to justify your stuff, especially not to some random on the internet.

I was making a point on an observation of mine - kinda neat to learn more about it though I admit. And while I don't believe the spirit of my comment was to suggest you were dressed for a marathon while merely going for a jog (that wasn't exactly the point), well.. I don't blame ya'll for seeing it that way. Ouch, makes it sound 10x worse. At least. lol.

The point was that I've noticed people really like to dress for the occasion, eg athletic gear for athletic stuff, golf gear for golf stuff, I mean I could think of dozens of examples. So when I see the mechanical keyboard, I'm thinking "Oh this guy is definitely trying out some games! Maybe he bought half life on steam and wants to become more pro"

Utterly terrible that thought process. It's walked through my mind at least a few times. I passed up buying a mechanical keyboard myself because I thought they were too noisy - but that was after watching damn near every person I know buy one. (Some of them did it for gaming, others didn't).............. so yeah.....

Commonmind, I'm very glad you are able to get whatever you need to get your work done as efficiently as possible. After doing some work over the summer I was able to tie up all kinds of loose ends that had been needing to be taken care of (lol, our computing infrastructure in this household was completely falling apart. every computer was either about to fall apart or had already done so). Did I mention macgyvering sucks? Having some new gear sure made stuff a lot easier... so I can totally see where you're coming from

So I can totally see where you're coming from. Again I want to apologize profusely for making my crappy observation such that you had to justify your hardware. That's terrible on my part :(
 
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