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Darshizzle

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I have a corporate Lotus Notes exchange email account set up in the iPhone 7+ native mail app and my email is pushing perfect. Its only my xxx@icloud.com email that is not pushing at all.
I read that with multiple accounts, only 1 will push?? Either way, you're lucky...no issues with ur corporate acct! I was using iCloud/me for business/work. #screwed :)
 

Darshizzle

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been troubleshooting this annoyance for the past while.....yes im insane!

everyone,

send a single test email to all your addresses/accounts ur using in the native mail app (ie all addresses in the to: field). This means primary, aliases and different accounts u've loaded into "mail".

having done this with my me.com and icloud.com (primary and alias respectively) push appears to be working!!

just something ive been suspecting since me-icloud migration and server syncing/timing.

worth a shot!
 

Mlrollin91

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been troubleshooting this annoyance for the past while.....yes im insane!

everyone,

send a single test email to all your addresses/accounts ur using in the native mail app (ie all addresses in the to: field). This means primary, aliases and different accounts u've loaded into "mail".

having done this with my me.com and icloud.com (primary and alias respectively) push appears to be working!!

just something ive been suspecting since me-icloud migration and server syncing/timing.

worth a shot!

This always works for me. But 5 minutes later it fails. I have never had sending myself an email fail to push.
 

Mlrollin91

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from ur mac mail app...or like a gmail webmail page?

From Mail on my Mac. I send myself an email. I get the push notification instantly on my phone every single time. But I have also tried it from iCloud.com. Push goes through immediately. But 5 minutes later I will miss an email.
 

Darshizzle

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From Mail on my Mac. I send myself an email. I get the push notification instantly on my phone every single time. But I have also tried it from iCloud.com. Push goes through immediately. But 5 minutes later I will miss an email.
thats why its instant....ur sending it from within the apple server system.

guessing u have gmail? sign in on a webpage and send from there. use that as your control.
 

Mlrollin91

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thats why its instant....ur sending it from within the apple server system.

guessing u have gmail? sign in on a webpage and send from there. use that as your control.

It doesn't matter if its sending within Apple's server system. I'm fairly confident its the push system that is the problem. Remember, I never miss a single email on my iPad or Mac. Only my iPhone.

Well I guess we can scratch your theory. Sent myself one from gmail. Went through on my iPhone immediately. Then sent one from my Mac mail client, for the first time ever in the last 3 weeks of trying it did not push.

There is definitely something more than just iCloud email going on.
 
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Darshizzle

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It doesn't matter if its sending within Apple's server system. I'm fairly confident its the push system that is the problem. Remember, I never miss a single email on my iPad or Mac. Only my iPhone.

Well I guess we can scratch your theory. Sent myself one from gmail. Went through on my iPhone immediately. Then sent one from my Mac mail client, for the first time ever in the last 3 weeks of trying it did not push.

There is definitely something more than just iCloud email going on.
my theory is that the servers cant synchronise the accounts feeding into the mail app. in my case, there may be a disconnect/ failure to sync between my primary me.com and alias icloud.com. im speculating that my icloud.com is corrupted from a poor migration way back and the clock between the two goes wonky!

just my layman's theory!
 

whsbuss

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I read that with multiple accounts, only 1 will push?? Either way, you're lucky...no issues with ur corporate acct! I was using iCloud/me for business/work. #screwed :)
May I ask where did you hear that? I have iCloud, Outlook.com, and Yahoo email configured on my IP7+ native mail app and only iCloud is having push issues.
 

whsbuss

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It doesn't matter if its sending within Apple's server system. I'm fairly confident its the push system that is the problem. Remember, I never miss a single email on my iPad or Mac. Only my iPhone.

Well I guess we can scratch your theory. Sent myself one from gmail. Went through on my iPhone immediately. Then sent one from my Mac mail client, for the first time ever in the last 3 weeks of trying it did not push.

There is definitely something more than just iCloud email going on.
I do miss iCloud emails on my iPad and iPhone.
[doublepost=1477569123][/doublepost]Dead in the water again this morning. I shot a Tips email to 9to5Mac asking them to place some focus on this issue in the media. We know Apple doesn't like negative press. Man, we need this fixed!
 
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S1njin

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Between this and the Verizon LTE bug I have to say I'm pretty disappointed this go-around. I (begrudgingly) am now forwarding my iCould mail to Gmail so I can get notified by the Gmail app that I have something to look at. I was trying to limit my Google exposure on my iPhone, but no matter how many data centers Apple builds or how many billions of dollars it hoards like Scrooge McDuck - Apple just can't figure out Cloud services. Its a real shame too.
 
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whsbuss

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Between this and the Verizon LTE bug I have to say I'm pretty disappointed this go-around. I (begrudgingly) am now forwarding my iCould mail to Gmail so I can get notified by the Gmail app that I have something to look at. I was trying to limit my Google exposure on my iPhone, but no matter how many data centers Apple builds or how many billions of dollars it hoards like Scrooge McDuck - Apple just can't figure out Cloud services. Its a real shame too.
Many of us are using Spark just for the notification of iCloud emails. Battery usage with that is acceptable until this gets fixed.
 

ATC

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I gave Email app (link) another shot yesterday as this issue has been so frustrating and intermittent and was missing out on time-sensitive emails. I have to say now that I've had it installed for more than a day, battery usage from it has totally stabilized this time around.

I left both it and the default Mail app running together and now they're both showing near identical battery usage. I'll have to keep any eye on it for another couple of days but I think I may have been premature after the first install in deeming it a battery hog.
 

dictoresno

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I noticed the issue also appears to happen on my MacBook on macOS as well. just filed a bug report for the iPhone 7 camera's shutter not always opening, and when the confirmation email came through via Outlook immediatly on iOS, both the iOS Mail app and my macOS mail app remained silent. no push to either one, no notification.
 
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