MP 7,1 Radeon Pro W5700X and the Mac Pro

[Stanly.ok]

3 XDR displays can be connected to the Vega II and work at 6K

Not sure if they work at 10bit 60Hz though

 

[joevt]

Not sure if they work at 10bit 60Hz though

The AGDCDiagnose output says all three are working at 6K 60Hz 10 bpc (Link Bits: 30 bpp)

 

[flowrider]

I don't know how it can work fine in macOS but not in EFI during boot. On the computer side, in both cases, you are using a DisplayPort output of the RX5700XT. How can EFI driver have different behavior than macOS driver for the same DisplayPort connection which works when the display is not USB-C? Very strange.

Yup, I can't figure it out. It's very strange indeed.

I mean brightness control in the Displays preferences panel, or using the Brightness keys F1 and F2.

Neither of those options are available to me. I tried them both in the past. But "Brightness Slider" works

Lou

 

[joevt]

Neither of those options are available to me. I tried them both in the past. But "Brightness Slider" works View attachment 900106

Right. You need a USB connection for the normal way. "Brightness Slider" is using DDC/CI over DisplayPort connection.

 

[ChromeCrescendo]

Why do I go on the Apple website 3x/day checking for the W5700x's availability?

 

[AidenShaw]

Why do I go on the Apple website 3x/day checking for the W5700x's availability?

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[mattspace]

Yup, I can't figure it out. It's very strange indeed. View attachment 900105




Neither of those options are available to me. I tried them both in the past. But "Brightness Slider" works View attachment 900106

Lou

Does "Brightness Slider" actually interact with the backlight to adjust the brightness of the display, or does it put a non-mouse-catching layer of black in the front of the window stack, and change its opacity?

 

[joevt]

Does "Brightness Slider" actually interact with the backlight to adjust the brightness of the display, or does it put a non-mouse-catching layer of black in the front of the window stack, and change its opacity?

Oh, I didn't think about that. A non-mouse catching layer is a software only solution which doesn't interact with the backlight and therefore doesn't save power. They might do that because using DDC/CI may have compatibility issues.

 

[flowrider]

Does "Brightness Slider" actually interact with the backlight to adjust the brightness of the display, or does it put a non-mouse-catching layer of black in the front of the window stack, and change its opacity?

Lou

 

[mattspace]

Oh, I didn't think about that. A non-mouse catching layer is a software only solution which doesn't interact with the backlight and therefore doesn't save power. They might do that because using DDC/CI may have compatibility issues.

I'd actually forgotten I used Brightness Slider for ages on my Benq displays - I knew I used *a* solution, but didn't recall the name. What I'd noticed was that if you set the dimming, then use switchresx to set your display to a higher virtual resolution, Brightness Slider's dimming didn't scale to the new "larger" screen, so you'd have a dark box 3/4 of the size of the (full brightness) screen, anchored in one corner - which made me realise it was *just* an overlay.

Also, when you get down to darker levels, the colours & contrast also get washed out and weird, so I wouldn't do anything colour critical with it enabled.

 

[joevt]

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That's a good idea. I know with my old Apple 30" Cinema Display, the Apple brightness control does not dim the display very much. Is there a statement about using DDC/CI at all? Is there any indication for which method it is currently using (the description says that some display cannot have their backlight adjusted)? The app hasn't been updated in awhile.

 

[worldburger]

Why do I go on the Apple website 3x/day checking for the W5700x's availability?

Did you notice the Coming Soon changed from W5700X to also include Two W5700X? ?

 

[flowrider]

^^^^You mean this:

Lou

 

[worldburger]

^^^^You mean this:


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Lou

Correct ?

 

[goMac]

Did you notice the Coming Soon changed from W5700X to also include Two W5700X? ?

I think it’s been that way the whole time.

 

[ChromeCrescendo]

Which at this point fine, I guess. Don't tease W5700X at MP7,1 release with "coming soon" banner. Don't release White Papers that clearly recommend the W5700X config for multiple scenarios.

It's one thing if they're not available, but to not even have pricing available is absurd. Just does not make sense for the "PRO" focused service that Apple was supposed to be getting back towards.

Had to move onto another machine as a stopgap for extended work from home situation. Will revisit MP7,1 and reevaluate in 6-18 months. Likely 100% out for 2020 unless there is a massive sale.

Despite all the thermal and fan issues reported with the MBP 16", I think I will order one and then, if/when the MP 7,1 upgrades the CPU (to whatever Intel has in store for Zeon next or, maybe AMD...ARM?) I will revisit the MP
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I have been waiting for the W5700X and living with the base 580. I'm about to pull the trigger on the Radeon Pro Vega II which means I might regret it when if the finally release the 5700.

I fixed that for you

 

[iKnowReview]

I‘m so sick of waiting...they even released the Wheels as an standalone Option today, but still no W5700X.
I think about ordering the 580X and W5700X standalone as soon (if) it arrives. Doesn‘t Final cut support Multi-GPU anyway? Or only Vega II Duo?

 

[Oval]

Doesn‘t Final cut support Multi-GPU anyway? Or only Vega II Duo?

Radeon VII in the 7,1 Mac Pro

FCP ProRes 422 720x576 (from VHS) to 720p m4v

forums.macrumors.com

 

[t90]

Been lurking here for ages, signed up just to add, the W5700X is finally listed!

US Apple Store Price:

 

[H. Flower]

Wow, you're right! Good news.

Not available for separate purchase though.

 

[Krevnik]

Price is more reasonable than I expected. 1000$ by itself once it’s available as an upgrade kit. I’m glad I waited, since this seems to not be that bad in price compared to the W5700. Get 2 TB3 controllers and no extra fans.

 

[t90]

Yeah same, been waiting too and I was honestly expecting it to be closer to $1200 given that the W5700 it's based on is in the $700 - $800 ballpark. Now im thinking I might get two, haha!

 

[deconstruct60]

Wow, you're right! Good news.

Not available for separate purchase though.

The Vega II's were available for separate purchase for over a month. Likely same constraints if the list of folks who have been stalling to buy is as long as some of these 5700X threads.

 

[blackie36]

Now available in Australia - Just ordered 2

 

[goodbye_harmony]

Available standalone UK apple store now: £1k

Just ordered.
Delivery C29th April.

About as expected

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