RAZR MAXX knocks iPhone out of first place on Verizon

[DakotaGuy]

But the real question is:

Where the heck is ICS for the Droid Razr/Maxx? I am talking about the offical/non-rooted version.

I guess you will never see JellyBean with the Razr Maxx

According to Motorola's own time line it's supposed to launch by the end of the 2nd quarter... that's June 30th. They keep pushing new builds so I'd think the final one has to be close. I do admit that is one bad thing about Android and it effects all manufacturers... they can be slow to push updates. With that said the current 2.3.6 build on mine is a very stable software build. I hope that continues with the new 4.0.4 build.

 

[mbell1975]

But the real question is:

Where the heck is ICS for the Droid Razr/Maxx? I am talking about the offical/non-rooted version.

I guess you will never see JellyBean with the Razr Maxx

The Razr Maxx was released with Gingerbread and getting a FULL update to ICS. How about Apple giving the finger to iPhone 4 owners by not giving them the best features from iOS 6 forcing them to buy a new phone? Thats a complete joke. Its taking awhile but at least we are getting it, not some watered down version of it

 

[TG1]

While I do miss the retina display and the camera quality on the iPhone, I'm loving the bigger screen, the crazy fast 4G LTE, the double your data promotion, and the INSANE battery life.

 

[aneftp]

LOL, what? Can YOU read? It says they DONT believe consumers are holding off on iPhone purchases in anticipation of a new one...

Yes, I can read what I stated. I am implying that they are wrong (that people are holding off buying CDMA iphone).

I stated those who wanted an iPhone 4/4s already brought one within the past 17 months it's been available.

I am saying don't believe what you read in the news media (about people NOT holding off on buying). People ARE HOLDING OFF on buying.

 

[Apple...]

Superior phone? I don't think so. It's running Android, so you know it will most likely never receive an update and will be replaced by the next Android (Samsung Galaxy S III, anyone?) within a month.

 

[aneftp]

According to Motorola's own time line it's supposed to launch by the end of the 2nd quarter... that's June 30th. They keep pushing new builds so I'd think the final one has to be close. I do admit that is one bad thing about Android and it effects all manufacturers... they can be slow to push updates. With that said the current 2.3.6 build on mine is a very stable software build. I hope that continues with the new 4.0.4 build.

According to Motorola (way back in Q4 2011). Droid Razr was supposed to get ICS "early 2012".

And Droid Razr/Maxx are the same exact phone/baseband with the exception of the batter.

June 14th 2012 by any definition isn't "early 2012" when the Razr was released.

I am sure it's coming within the next 30-45 days. But they are way behind in delivering ICS.

 

[Nand]

The Razr Maxx was released with Gingerbread and getting a FULL update to ICS. How about Apple giving the finger to iPhone 4 owners by not giving them the best features from iOS 6 forcing them to buy a new phone? Thats a complete joke. Its taking awhile but at least we are getting it, not some watered down version of it

Change your mind again...
This is what you said..and I quote

"Because some people act like Android phones and its OS are such high tech and advanced devices when the truth is, they can't even keep their phones running current software. We aren't taking about an incremental update either. ICS is a MAJOR update, they reworked everything, yet only 3% of Android devices run it 5 months after its release. People ask how iPhone users can live with such a small screen or such a (in their minds) limited OS and I ask Android fans how they can live with a brand new phone running a nearly 2 year old OS. I will take a smaller screen and an OS without widgets to have something current rather than an OS from 2010 Here is another eye opener....


“iOS 5 captured approximately 75% of all iOS users in the same amount of time it took Gingerbread to get 4% of all Android users,” Sauve wrote in his analysis on pxldot. “Even more astounding is that 15 weeks after launch iOS 4 was at 70% and iOS 5 was at 60% while Ice Cream Sandwich got to just 1% share at the same age. If there were any question as to whether iOS had a less fragmented ecosystem than Android, the past two charts provide a fairly definitive answer.” Sauve continued, “iOS devices have, on average, reached 10% version share 300 times faster than Android versions, 30% share 19 times faster, and 50% share 7 times faster.”

 

[mbell1975]

According to Motorola (way back in Q4 2011). Droid Razr was supposed to get ICS "early 2012".

And Droid Razr/Maxx are the same exact phone/baseband with the exception of the batter.

June 14th 2012 by any definition isn't "early 2012" when the Razr was released.

I am sure it's coming within the next 30-45 days. But they are way behind in delivering ICS.

That's because 4.04 was released. So rather than give customers the older 4.03 update, they decided to hold off. I don't have a problem with that and those who really want ICS have the option to root and install it.

 

[cynics]

Verizon does push LTE (Android phones) more cause the do have higher commission, 3G non apple phones have higher commision too but not as much. My old roommate used to do wireless sales before doing government sales. It's very easy to find info on this with a google search.

Two reasons are, one Verizon is going all LTE so they obviously push LTE. Two Android phones are cheaper so when subsidized at the same price they make more. The iPhone is 90-100 dollars more to Verizon then high end android phones.

Any commercials you see are apple commercials with a Verizon tag at the end. It's not that Verizon doesn't want to sell iPhones, they just prefer to make more money and that means trying to push Android phones. And they are really just trying to get you in the store...duh

The easiest proof of this is to simply goto a corporate Verizon store. You'll have to walk by every Android phone to get to the iPhone stand.

Hell here is there mobile website. Note the iPhone under the droids and lackluster description vs the droids.

 

[CrAkD]

wrong, see above. You want to talk about what phone Verizon pushes? I have seen the Smauel L. Jackson, Zooey and Malkovich Verizon 4s commercials so many times I want to puke. How many times have you seen a commercial for the Razr Maxx? Like never. iPhone fanboys don't realize the Maxx is the superior phone here. Larger display, much better build quality with is Kevlar backing, stainless steel sides and Gorilla Glass, much better battery, removable storage and 4G LTE. It was only a matter of time.

What on earth do apple tv commercials have to do with Verizon employees in store who work on commission pushing android phones with higher margins? Oh that's right.....nothing.

 

[mbell1975]

What on earth do apple tv commercials have to do with Verizon employees in store who work on commission pushing android phones with higher margins? Oh that's right.....nothing.

Again, Verizon paid a TON of money for the iPhone. You really think they want them sitting around? Especially when the new ones with bigger displays and 4G are coming? Please. No one will touch a 4s with its useless tiny screen and outdated 3G when the new one hits soon. You can bet Verizon are trying to sell the 4s at all costs. You can bet they are pushing IPhones sales hard

 

[cynics]

Btw on topic it does not surprise me the Razr maxx did better. I have a Verizon 4S and it's terrible due to their terrible 3G network. I keep it tethered to an LTE tablet while I'm at work. The new iPhone on Verizon assuming its LTE will be very nice.

 

[CrAkD]

Again, Verizon paid a TON of money for the iPhone. You really think they want them sitting around? Especially when the new ones with bigger displays and 4G are coming? Please. No one will touch a 4s with its useless tiny screen and outdated 3G when the new one hits soon. You can bet Verizon are trying to sell the 4s at all costs. You can bet they are pushing IPhones sales hard

I'm not so sure Verizon agreed to sell x amount of iPhones that was sprint that bet the company on the iPhone. I'm sure Verizon sells plenty of iPhones based on apples fanbase alone but undecided people or people that are uninformed are quickly swayed to a droid where Verizon makes alot more per device.

 

[DakotaGuy]

I'm not so sure Verizon agreed to sell x amount of iPhones that was sprint that bet the company on the iPhone. I'm sure Verizon sells plenty of iPhones based on apples fanbase alone but undecided people or people that are uninformed are quickly swayed to a droid where Verizon makes alot more per device.

I'd think the iPhone would capture a lot more of the uninformed crowd then the MAXX. It's the phone that everyone has and if someone doesn't know better they are going to follow the crowd. People who would buy the RAZR MAXX are probably going to do some research to find out why it is a better buy and how it's features are superior to the iPhone.

 

[mbell1975]

I'd think the iPhone would capture a lot more of the uninformed crowd then the MAXX. It's the phone that everyone has and if someone doesn't know better they are going to follow the crowd. People who would buy the RAZR MAXX are probably going to do some research to find out why it is a better buy and how it's features are superior to the iPhone.

Exactly. everyone knows what an iphone is even an 85 year old grandmother. Swaying someone to buy an Android phone from Motorola would be very difficult.

 

[Dwalls90]

Verizon does a lot of "steering" in their stores.

Guess the spiff this month on the MAXX was good.

Exactly. Verizon is NOTORIOUS for shifting customers AWAY from the iPhone to Android devices, primarily because Motorola charges less for their wholesale for Maxx's then Apple charges for their iPhones.

Customers are stupid. This is an example of how powerful and persuasive a carrier can be towards a certain device.

Honestly Apple can not expect to release one phone a year and compete.

I agree and disagree. They are still competing, and I see people everday still buying 4S'. I think in the long run they should shorten their release period a tad though.

 

[DakotaGuy]

All android customers are either uniformed or delusional.

Either that or they opted to buy garbge on purpose.

Really? I suppose you can come up with some facts to prove that opinion. As far as I can tell the 4S is one of the most outdated phones (other then a few free 3G only Android ones) that Verizon offers. It's a good phone, but it's outdated and selling on brand popularity at this point. That might all change when the iPhone 5 comes out, but for now it's behind.

 

[DodgeV83]

William Blair financial analyst, Anil Doradla claims that the RAZR MAXX has become the top-selling smartphone this quarter for Verizon.

This is another example of the media putting "iPhone" in their headline to get a few million hits, and add few thousand more dollars to their ad revenue. In what other industry would an analyst's claim be reported as truth?

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Really? I suppose you can come up with some facts to prove that opinion. As far as I can tell the 4S is one of the most outdated phones (other then a few free 3G only Android ones) that Verizon offers. It's a good phone, but it's outdated and selling on brand popularity at this point. That might all change when the iPhone 5 comes out, but for now it's behind.

It's quite clear you made this thread as a subtle troll, with the words "is this true" to cover it up.

The Droid Razr Maxx has much lower performance than the iPhone 4S in every category besides battery and wireless radio, a direct result of the faster CPU/GPU and OS optimization.

 

[mbell1975]

The Droid Razr Maxx has much lower performance than the iPhone 4S in every category besides battery and wireless radio, a direct result of the faster CPU/GPU and OS optimization.

False. I can add more memory to my Maxx anytime I like, I couldn't on my 4s.
My Maxx isn't made of glass and won't shatter if I drop it (which I have several times) which means its build quality is superior. The Maxx has a larger display. The Maxx has a faster processor. The Maxx has more RAM. I just listed several more categories where the Maxx is superior.

 

[chakraj]

It makes me laugh to read people knocking android for being fragmented.

Tell me how is Siri working on your iphone 4? or how about on your 3Gs or your 3g or your 2g??? Oh it doesnt work = fragmented

How well do you expect your 3gs or your iphone 4 to run the new navigation?

Oh it wont....LOL... You guys are so fragmented.

Every android phone can run its navigation, sheesh get with it its 2012 already...

 

[CrAkD]

It makes me laugh to read people knocking android for being fragmented.

Tell me how is Siri working on your iphone 4? or how about on your 3Gs or your 3g or your 2g??? Oh it doesnt work = fragmented

How well do you expect your 3gs or your iphone 4 to run the new navigation?

Oh it wont....LOL... You guys are so fragmented.

Every android phone can run its navigation, sheesh get with it its 2012 already...

There's a big difference from apple selling 3 phones all 3 get 6.0 but get stripped a few features and android selling 100s of different phones at the same time and only 10 get ICS. That's VERY different don't even compare it.

 

[chakraj]

There's a big difference from apple selling 3 phones all 3 get 6.0 but get stripped a few features and android selling 100s of different phones at the same time and only 10 get ICS. That's VERY different don't even compare it.

Oh I understand, the comparison is only valid if it shows apple as a better product. When you use the same comparison and apple comes out the looser then its not even worth bringing up...

You have a future in politics my friend

 

[CrAkD]

Oh I understand, the comparison is only valid if it shows apple as a better product. When you use the same comparison and apple comes out the looser then its not even worth bringing up...

You have a future in politics my friend

Ok how about numbers. 100% of apple iPhones get the latest OS at the same time on the same release day. Less then 1% of android phones for sale get the latest release on release day. Less then 10% ever get it and it takes about 6 months to even get to 10%. How can you compare those 2 and call it the same thing.

 

[chakraj]

Ok while you compare OS versions. I will compare features.

100% of android phones have the same features while the OS may look different.

On iphone the OS may look the same, but 50% of the phones wont run the features that the other 50% have. Even though the phone is capable of running them, its just apple doesnt want you to have them.

Tit for tat..... No not that kind of tit, sheesh lets keep it clean this is a family forum.

 

[CrAkD]

Google used to do the same thing back in the cupcake donut days when a phone wasn't capable of running something and I'm sure they still do. Secondly how does a missing feature compare to an entire missing OS. Android phones sometimes SHIP for the first time with an older OS then current and then never even get the new OS!?!? Like wtf.