RAZR MAXX knocks iPhone out of first place on Verizon

[DodgeV83]

I'm not sure about all these benchmarks, but I do know when my friend and I compare speeds from his iPhone 4S and my MAXX everything network dependent loads a LOT faster on my MAXX. My battery lasts longer and overall there just isn't much speed difference. I don't understand why some think the iPhone is so much better because it's not.

If you stick to the basics, your analysis is spot on. LTE is faster, and it has a much bigger battery. I choose the iPhone primarily for the apps, Apple's proprietary services, and the camera.

You can easily tell the performance difference when scrolling web pages, playing graphic intensive games, running any processor-heavy apps, or just navigating the home page, but that doesn't bother a lot of people.

 

[aristobrat]

Can we finally put this delusional fantasy to rest.

The graph you posted was based on "Canaccord Genuity monthly channel checks".

This thread was started from an article where "William Blair financial analyst, Anil Doradla claims...", where the claims are also based on "checks" that his company did.

Until carriers (or OEMs) start releasing sales figures, I don't think speculation like this is ever going to be put at rest. Especially considering how much free publicity analysts get from writing stuff like this (not to mention how many gazillion extra clicks blogs/tech news sites get for publishing stories like this).

Interestingly, it doesn't seem like the guy that wrote this article thinks the MAXX will have much of an effect on Apple.
"William Blair’s Anil Doradla today reiterates an Outperform rating on shares of Apple (AAPL), writing that he is not concerned the company’s iPhone will lose its rank as the top smartphone in North America, even though there is slippage appearing, in particular at Verizon Communications"
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...iam-blair-unfazed-as-iphone-slips-at-verizon/

 

[mbell1975]

You can easily tell the performance difference when scrolling web pages, playing graphic intensive games, running any processor-heavy apps, or just navigating the home page, but that doesn't bother a lot of people.

No you can't. If that were true, I would have sold my Maxx and kept my 4s rather than the other way around. The Maxx does everything as fast or faster and outdated 3G is a joke compared to LTE

 

[Bobby Corwen]

No you can't. If that were true, I would have sold my Maxx and kept my 4s rather than the other way around. The Maxx does everything as fast or faster and outdated 3G is a joke compared to LTE

Oh please. Verizon is like a wanna-be techie cult. They have you BRAINWASHED.

Verizon is for people who don't realize that other carriers have caught up in terms of tower coverage and the premiums on Verizon are silly and not worth it anymore.

Their business model is what Sprint/Nextel used to be where they sell corporate style and trick you into thinking you are more important than you really are.

Verizon reps only care about commissions on a data chart and have a career-long bias against iphone due to ignorance.

The whole Verizon "thing" is so 2008.

Last I heard, AT&T 3.5G is faster than LTE in almost all places considering you rarely get maxx throughput on LTE.

And don't be Delusioned OP. Verizon is the cult that makes you think that stuff matters when all that matters the most is the OS.

Android is just shovel-ware and no specs will change that. An open system can never perform as smooth as a closed system.

I love how worked up people get even to this day. Just some guy in the middle of nowhere south Dakota cultivating this whole parallel uniberse in his mind.

Hey bro, did you realize all the cool people around the world all use Apple in 2012? Maybe in your own little world in your small town people take the same insecure anti-apple stance. But globally, people are laughing at you and your petty approach to this.

You are boasting about nothing special at all.

Inertial scrolling is still garbage and touch response is still garbage. GUI is still garbage. Apps are still garbage. Overall details are still garbage.

 

[mbell1975]

Oh please. Verizon is like a wanna-be techie cult. They have you BRAINWASHED.

Verizon is for people who don't realize that other carriers have caught up in terms of tower coverage and the premiums on Verizon are silly and not worth it anymore.

Their business model is what Sprint/Nextel used to be where they sell corporate style and trick you into thinking you are more important than you really are.

Verizon reps only care about commissions on a data chart and have a career-long bias against iphone due to ignorance.

The whole Verizon "thing" is so 2008.

Last I heard, AT&T 3.5G is faster than LTE in almost all places considering you rarely get maxx throughput on LTE.

And don't be Delusioned OP. Verizon is the cult that makes you think that stuff matters when all that matters the most is the OS.

Android is just shovel-ware and no specs will change that. An open system can never perform as smooth as a closed system.

I love how worked up people get even to this day. Just some guy in the middle of nowhere south Dakota cultivating this whole parallel uniberse in his mind.

Hey bro, did you realize all the cool people around the world all use Apple in 2012? Maybe in your own little world in your small town people take the same insecure anti-apple stance. But globally, people are laughing at you and your petty approach to this.

You are boasting about nothing special at all.

Inertial scrolling is still garbage and touch response is still garbage. GUI is still garbage. Apps are still garbage. Overall details are still garbage.

LOL, how old are you? 10? Sounds like it. Yes, I desperately want to be cool just like everyone else! All I need is an iPhone? Kids like you are the ones who give Apple and iPhone a bad name, just stop. Oh and which carrier is best depends on where you live. I have actually been on all 4 major ones. Verizon has the fastest speeds and best coverage out here, but thanks

 

[Bobby Corwen]

LOL, how old are you? 10? Sounds like it. Yes, I desperately want to be cool just like everyone else! All I need is an iPhone? Kids like you are the ones who give Apple and iPhone a bad name, just stop. Oh and which carrier is best depends on where you live. I have actually been on all 4 major ones. Verizon has the fastest speeds and best coverage out here, but thanks

What a childish response.

 

[Electric turd]

What a childish response.

Did you even read what you typed earlier? You call him childish???!!! LOL
After reading posts of yours i'm starting to think you are on the Apple payroll.....
You love the Kool Aid dont you?

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Did you even read what you typed earlier? You call him childish???!!! LOL
After reading posts of yours i'm starting to think you are on the Apple payroll.....
You love the Kool Aid dont you?

If Phil Schiller needs a sidekick, he knows where I am. He can just PM me for a contact email.

 

[Electric turd]

If Phil Schiller needs a sidekick, he knows where I am. He can just PM me for a contact email.

You know, I am a very open minded person but to be honest nothing you ever post on here makes a lick of sense to probably 99.9% of the people that read it. Good luck.....you going to need it

 

[ChrisTX]

Considering when polled, many users of the iPhone 4 thought the 4 stood for 4G. I'd say many people are opting for the Razr Maxx due to the newness factor. The iPhone 4S design is growing long in the tooth at this point, and people want something new that provides similar functionality to the iPhone.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

You know, I am a very open minded person but to be honest nothing you ever post on here makes a lick of sense to probably 99.9% of the people that read it. Good luck.....you going to need it

And yet here we are, I dropped a gauntlet on you with my final sentence of my initial post that you still are unable to respond to and instead here you are attempting to malign my character instead of giving any rebuttals to my points of discussion.

 

[Vegastouch]

What a childish response.

Pretty much all your responses are childish.

Nobody swallows the Apple seed more than you do

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Pretty much all your responses are childish.

Nobody swallows the Apple seed more than you do

And all your post are negative hate and you still have a iPhone 2g. What are you doing here if everythin makes you so angry?

Do you think you're "cool" because you didn't upgrade? To make some grand yet misguided awkward gesture that "the 2G fits all your needs" an you don't care to upgrade.

Ok you're reallll cool... Lol lol lol

 

[Vegastouch]

And all your post are negative hate and you still have a iPhone 2g. What are you doing here if everythin makes you so angry?

Do you think you're "cool" because you didn't upgrade? To make some grand yet misguided awkward gesture that "the 2G fits all your needs" an you don't care to upgrade.

Ok you're reallll cool... Lol lol lol

I dont use the 2G...lol. Its in the box along with everything it came with for the past two years.

Most of your posts are beyond lame and childish jibberish. Maybe thats why you have negative marks in everyone of them. Ever think of that?

I agree with the guy that asks if you are 10. But i believe you are much older, ....around 15 at least. Thats your mentality anyways and wouldnt doubt if Justin Bieber is one of those "cool people" you are refering to.

 

[UCLAKoolman]

Can someone help me understand why someone would come to an iPhone forum and complain about why people think their iPhone is better than X phone?

To me, this behavior always reeks of insecurity.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

I dont use the 2G...lol. Its in the box along with everything it came with for the past two years.

Most of your posts are beyond lame and childish jibberish. Maybe thats why you have negative marks in everyone of them. Ever think of that?

I agree with the guy that asks if you are 10. But i believe you are much older, ....around 15 at least. Thats your mentality anyways and wouldnt doubt if Justin Bieber is one of those "cool people" you are refering to.

1. Calls me childish.

2. Childishly attacks my character instead of staying on topic.

Okkkkk....

Ps. Why don't you update your sig lol

Pps. Now there something wrong with JB? He took over Earth at 15 with one hit single bro. If you can't respect that, what do you respect? What did you achieve by age 15 that compares?

 

[Technarchy]

Can someone help me understand why someone would come to an iPhone forum and complain about why people think their iPhone is better than X phone?

To me, this behavior always reeks of insecurity.

Android users love Apple hangouts

 

[DakotaGuy]

Last I heard, AT&T 3.5G is faster than LTE in almost all places considering you rarely get maxx throughput...

I love how worked up people get even to this day. Just some guy in the middle of nowhere south Dakota cultivating this whole parallel uniberse in his mind.

Hey bro, did you realize all the cool people around the world all use Apple in 2012? Maybe in your own little world in your small town people take the same insecure anti-apple stance. But globally, people are laughing at you and your petty approach to this.

You are boasting about nothing special at all.

Inertial scrolling is still garbage and touch response is still garbage. GUI is still garbage. Apps are still garbage. Overall details are still garbage.

Wow what a well thought out mature response.

Just a couple of points... if AT&TS 3.5G or whatever is far superior to LTE why is AT&T going to LTE themselves? Why is the new iPad LTE? Sounds like a waste of time and billions of dollars.

Second, how in the world does the place I live have any bearing on this discussion? Oh I know you brought it up to try and hurt my feelings... lol. Good try, but no luck. I assume you live in a huge city with tons of cars, noise, concrete, pollution and crime. I'm sure all of that is exciting, but I prefer to walk out my back door and smell fresh pine in the morning. Wake up on a spring morning and see a doe and her fawns in my back yard. Even with all that I still have Verizon LTE service and fast cable net to my house... heck probably even faster then what you have.

Once again I love where I live and personally would never trade my life for one in a concrete jungle. Oh by the way all sorts of people in South Dakota have iPhones so don't think carrying one makes you some sort of a highly refined and sophisticated city dweller.

 

[Vegastouch]

1. Calls me childish.

You get called this by somebody nearly everytime you post. Must to something to it , eh?

2. Childishly attacks my character instead of staying on topic.

Okkkkk....

LOL, calling the kettle black?

By Bobby Corwen
Do you think you're "cool" because you didn't upgrade? To make some grand yet misguided awkward gesture that "the 2G fits all your needs" an you don't care to upgrade.

Ps. Why don't you update your sig lol

I did, maybe you cant read and ill update it again here in about a week when i get the GS3.

Pps. Now there something wrong with JB? He took over Earth at 15 with one hit single bro. If you can't respect that, what do you respect? What did you achieve by age 15 that compares?

LOL, thanks for confirming that you are about 15. Only kids think Bieber is cool. I think his music sux myself but kudos to him for having some talent and he seems like a good kid. Just isnt my style at all. Seriously...does any dude who isnt a teenager think that his song "Baby" or whatever it is called is cool?

Maybe you might have liked the group Hanson too and their one hit? Maybe they have iPhones too? Wouldnt that be something!

 

[lordofthereef]

Pps. Now there something wrong with JB? He took over Earth at 15 with one hit single bro. If you can't respect that, what do you respect? What did you achieve by age 15 that compares?

There is nothing wrong with him, per se, except your understanding of him seems completely flawed. Music companies made him, not the other way around. He is a pretty face with a voice better than terrible that tweens go crazy for. Ever heard "sex sells"? That is basically what that is... except it's for a demographic where we can't say that out loud because we would be bad people if we did. And by the way, it has been happening for some time now. Singers are being sold younger and younger each day. Look at all the twenty-somethings and thirty-somethings. They all got famous in their early teens too. Just about the only child singer that I can think of that didn't explode in popularity for his looks was Michael Jackson.

But now we are wwwwWWWWAAYYYYyyyyy off toipc!

 

[CrAkD]

I can't believe you guys are still arguing about this.

 

[JAT]

His only proof were Linpack results from the Maxx and then screenshots from some random iPhone. Hardly an official test. I posted OFFICIAL results from real tests that had the Maxx beating the 4s. why don't you go find a test that proves otherwise

You posted zero tests about his point. Do you not read? Look at the posts I quoted. Argue points with comprehension. You did it with Bobby Corwen, Bieber lover. But you've refused to with Dodge.

I'll bet I can throw a Maxx farther than I can throw a 4s, too. Because it will spin faster. But that doesn't mean its cpu is faster. (I'm a DGer, I have some skill)

 

[blackhand1001]

Can we finally put this delusional fantasy to rest.

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I wonder what happens if you combine the sales of the regular razr with that of the maxx. The only difference between the two is the battery. The software builds are identical as is all the hardware. Seems fair since they are including the different gb sizes with the 4s.

 

[I.Love.Apple]

You posted zero tests about his point. Do you not read? Look at the posts I quoted. Argue points with comprehension. You did it with Bobby Corwen, Bieber lover. But you've refused to with Dodge.

I'll bet I can throw a Maxx farther than I can throw a 4s, too. Because it will spin faster. But that doesn't mean its cpu is faster. (I'm a DGer, I have some skill)

RAZR indeed has faster CPU than iPhone 4S as reported by Anandtech. Anandtech tested RAZR with Android 2.3.5. Android performance improved greatly with ICS which means that Anandtech charts probably do not accurately reflect the raw CPU performance for RAZR.

 

[Technarchy]

6 pages in and only one person has posted sales figures...figures that show the iPhone 4S is still the best selling smart phone in the world.